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As Martin is working hard and has no time for posting his interesting Vintage posters and very old vintage "what is this" questions, I stole this pic on FB, what is it ???
Collecting Vintage B&O is not a hobby, its a lifestyle.
Listen to some ZZ Top and you'll know
--mika
tournedos: Listen to some ZZ Top and you'll know
That makes it a lot easier, but who is ZZ top
Hi Søren
It's a Bang & Olufsen Eliminator!
- Dennis
*Edit by Dillen
Hmm I saw that on FB to, and think it's Antenna power supply / charger / inverter of some sort
Søren Mexico: As Martin is working hard and has no time for posting his interesting Vintage posters and very old vintage "what is this" questions, I stole this pic on FB, what is it ???
Don't worry - be Happy
It's an eliminator.It eliminates the need for anode batteries for your receiver if you have mains in your house.Mains being DC voltage of typically 200V, that is.(Not easily transformed BTW).
Practically B&Os first production item and a huge success from the start.It was available in several different versions. Later, when B&O themselves started producing radioreceivers, even eliminators meant for use with other companies radio receivers were available from B&O.
The batteries needed recharging from time to time, which meant a trip with them to the nearest dealer,bakers, bicycle mechanic or whoever had electric mains power in town.A dangerous trip too, it was, since many early batteries (accumulators to be precise) had glass housingsand were quite heavy (think car batteries made of glass - and not a lot of cars to transport them in) sothe eliminator came as a welcomed option.
Here's another one. Actually a photo of my oldest and newest collection items together:
BTW: It's not because I cannot find the time to do vintage repairs or restauration writeups.I still do both but I'm afraid, I must admit, I still don't feel at home with this forum design and Isomehow lost the spark.Probably just because I'm getting old(er).Besides, the interest for vintage stuff seems to be next to non-existent on Beoworld with Appleproducts drastically taking over.
Martin
Did a bit of surfing, first one build 1927, and as Martin explains, the first type of electric power distribution in DK was 200 V DC, I didn't know that, but somewhere in the backyard of my brain I have some rest memories about hearing something about accumulators in those years, but never got the idea that it had to do with the main power grid. We learn something new every day. Thank you Martin.
BTW the power supplies/chargers for your cell phones are a little smaller today, BTW my first mobil phone I bought in DK in 1989, weight 6 Kg. and big as 3 bricks
Dillen: Besides, the interest for vintage stuff seems to be next to non-existent on Beoworld with Appleproducts drastically taking over. Martin
Besides, the interest for vintage stuff seems to be next to non-existent on Beoworld with Appleproducts drastically taking over.
I for one am still interested in reading about other members' vintage B&O. And I could not care less about Apple (though I do love my iPod Touch).
Thanks for the input Martin,
Never occurred to me that it may have to do with grid neither, despite period of time and place lived in with 1 supply point in house (only shows how quick we can forget), although I figured out it's (what it says on the tin) eliminator of batteries I think it be good idea these days for people have to go to dealer and have the gadgets re-charged
My heart is on Vintage - probably because it makes me feel "at home" and having no means to compare with what it used to be it is not what I've expected to find and use of it is somewhat difficult (what doesn't stop me posting "non-sense"
Congratulation to your newest & oldest collectors item
I'm getting old and grumpy and cannot wait for the time when I can become embarrassment and burden to my kids - pay back time y'all
That said I'm glad i did find you and few similar to you and that the interest in vintage did not died (I have daily people - even young ones asking for bits and pieces for vintage B&O's because many recognize the real value and beauty of them = makes us feel good ;)
All the best
bob
Dillen: BTW: It's not because I cannot find the time to do vintage repairs or restauration writeups.I still do both but I'm afraid, I must admit, I still don't feel at home with this forum design and Isomehow lost the spark.Probably just because I'm getting old(er).Besides, the interest for vintage stuff seems to be next to non-existent on Beoworld with Appleproducts drastically taking over. Martin
I think there will always be a place here for the icon designs of the 70s through 90s
I think many things are happening at the moment to cause the perceive change / loss of focus on the forum
clearly one has been the change of the server - who knows the true cause of the numbers dropping off:
on the other hand, every day seems to bring a new poster or two -- but most don't seem to stay once their issue is resolved
I am not sure if Bob was on before the change, but he is certainly a welcome addition and is enriching our discussions
However I do think one change is the music distribution industry - the general move away from physical media to electronic downloads, and the move to easier storage, home network distribution, and alliances of vendors (e.g. DLNA, AIrplay) is all changing how many of us consume our music.
I think it is this change that is altering the balance of Beoworld from ye olde worlde of CDs and the beautiful designs like the BS3000, BC2 to "designs" like HDR2, BM5, and so on.
I still think the BS5 and BS5é are amazing design efforts to cope with this new world, and the various BeoPlays are valiant attempts to cope with the changes -- let us hope that this week's announcements further invigorate the brand, the forums, and bring us new friends / beo-colleagues
PS for the record, even though I am an Apple user and I have made many of the additions to those threads, I favour the moderators exercising their judgement and moving each thread to a side forum .... but I recognise that will not stop new threads being added to the General Forum - its the nature of the industry as it stands today
BeoNut since '75
Needless hope so (there is many even very young ones these days appreciating the beauty of vintage products, not to mention amazing fact, that they're still here and working)
thing is (in my opinion) that many (new comers) just look for quick fix to their problems or and needs and don't feel included or the need to stay on, after their goal was reached (or not) - people tend to consume (rather than enjoy) everything these days and the industry changes according to that - "easy access, instant downloads, now it's to old - need new version, something to flash"
Beside needless face it, Bang & Olufsen always been rather exclusive (so may this forum feel to many) and never intended appeal or to be available for masses, and in many ways (at least to me) there isn't much significant in new production - not to mention nothing I can reach and afford, even if I would want to, what isn't the case.
I use the analogy of Pink Floyd in Money and based on that I'm yet to be adjusted to the new world and order, meanwhile I'm happy to be stacked in the moment and get and keep those timeless pieces of history to work and working to enrich enjoyment of life.
All the best y'all
P.S. I personally hope in some way to add to this community and being accepted and not patronized makes all the difference, although I don't gave a flying rat what people think of me in general But creating side forums for main stream these days would be step in wrong direction
elephant: I think there will always be a place here for the icon designs of the 70s through 90s I think many things are happening at the moment to cause the perceive change / loss of focus on the forum on the other hand, every day seems to bring a new poster or two -- but most don't seem to stay once their issue is resolved I am not sure if Bob was on before the change, but he is certainly a welcome addition and is enriching our discussions However I do think one change is the music distribution industry - the general move away from physical media to electronic downloads, and the move to easier storage, home network distribution, and alliances of vendors (e.g. DLNA, AIrplay) is all changing how many of us consume our music. let us hope that this week's announcements further invigorate the brand, the forums, and bring us new friends / beo-colleagues PS for the record, even though I am an Apple user and I have made many of the additions to those threads, I favour the moderators exercising their judgement and moving each thread to a side forum .... but I recognise that will not stop new threads being added to the General Forum - its the nature of the industry as it stands today
I think many things are happening at the moment to cause the perceive change / loss of focus on the forum on the other hand, every day seems to bring a new poster or two -- but most don't seem to stay once their issue is resolved
let us hope that this week's announcements further invigorate the brand, the forums, and bring us new friends / beo-colleagues
elephant: I think many things are happening at the moment to cause the perceive change / loss of focus on the forum on the other hand, every day seems to bring a new poster or two -- but most don't seem to stay once their issue is resolved I am not sure if Bob was on before the change, but he is certainly a welcome addition and is enriching our discussions
I obviously can't speak for others. but for what they are worth, some thoughts.
I've been a member for 3-4 years now and whilst I have been an owner of B&O on and off for 40 years, it has only been for those three or four years that I have gone from a contented user of one CD-based system, one TV and one portable radio (all bought new in 1991/2) to someone that my partner described as 'very sad'
During my initial few years of membership, I read loads of posts, particularly researching on the pieces i was interested in collecting and regularly asking questions. Over that time I acquired a variety of pieces and have reached the point where I am very contented with what I have.
At the same time, whilst I am a little more knowledgable than I was, I am still always a little wary of providing an opinion or comment particularly on pieces of equipment I don't own or have not heard in good listening conditions (that is, not B&O showrooms!). Technically I am inept so can offer no practical help in repairs.
So I don't post very often - my equipment is working pretty well and although I did contact Frede with a view to doing a complete restroration/refurbishment on the 'Bin Laden' BM 4400 that Peter gave me some years ago now, potential redundancy at the time and other priorities forced a rethink. I am, then, pretty contented with my 5 B&O systems, all of which are at least now 21 years old.
I have a couple of ipods but don't use them for serous listening. I understand this is the way of the world and if B&O wish to continue in business, they probably have no choice but to pursue a route that acknowledges the pre-eminence of Apple - it just doesn't interest me. I still like the ritual of putting on records, CDs and even cassettes. Yes I am an old buffer, but there we are.
I appreciate I am rambling now (it's what we old people are inclined to do). I guess what I am saying is that I am still here, still reading posts about vintage kit, although given my relative contentment, the reliability of my kit (risky statement!) and general technical ignorance, don't post very often. I just don't feel I can, to use a horrible piece of management gobbledegook, 'add value' to most of the threads these days.
As for Bob, he is a 'newbie'. And he lives in the same village in rural Devon as I do!
Cleve
welcome back Cleve - it is good to hear you are still there
Cleviebaby:As for Bob, he is a 'newbie'. And he lives in the same village in rural Devon as I do!
it is a small world !
and long may your equipment soldier on!
I used to be like you more knowledgeable around the kit I owned (the BM5000 stack) and enjoyed fiddling with it and helping out others
Now days I feel less useful - more and more there is a level of expertise that passes me by
but live you I love this family of passionate fans - even if like most families there are occasional disagreements
Cleviebaby: I appreciate I am rambling now (it's what we old people are inclined to do). I guess what I am saying is that I am still here, still reading posts about vintage kit, although given my relative contentment, the reliability of my kit (risky statement!) and general technical ignorance, don't post very often. I just don't feel I can, to use a horrible piece of management gobbledegook, 'add value' to most of the threads these days. As for Bob, he is a 'newbie'. And he lives in the same village in rural Devon as I do! Cleve
It is small world we live in and I sure look forward meeting you at last , despite being very green in regards to B&O's (which I've started by accident collect just few months ago, and by ignoring safety precautions got infected with Beobug.
My collection at present is 4 systems with 4 pairs of speakers and few separates and have to keep pinching myself to believe it.
I can only hope that some of my inputs based on my experience (mainly on electronics of other brands for most of my life) and bit of technical knowledge will be to good use for some ;) , other than that I keep comment on post I feel the urge to express my view .....
Well, I for one am very interested in the vintage B&O gear and discussions. Not only am I slowly acquiring some older gear, most notably a Beocord 3300 and pair of P30's very recently, but I love old technology in general. I view it as a kind of technological archeology, plus you need to know where you've been to fully see where you're going. And while I have an iPod, iPad, iPhone, and use iTunes as my music server, I tend to get tired of too many Apple discussions, outside how to best integrate them with Beogear.
PI have just recently entered an early retirement, but for the past 34 years have been employed as a systems engineer, and believe me, some of the older designs and such are masterpieces of innovation and creativity. Doing things with what we today consider clunky tech is an art, and more impressive than the things we do easily today. It's worth more study and appreciation than most have for it.
So, I truly respect and appreciate those forum members who have knowledge of the older gear and are willing to share it, especially wrt repairs! Please stay around!
Jeff
I'm afraid I'm recovering from the BeoVirus.