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Beovision 10-46 replacement display?

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solderon29
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solderon29 Posted: Tue, Dec 19 2017 8:37 PM

I'm looking into the possibllity of replacing a faulty display in this tv.Incredibly,the Samsung part is obsolete and no longer available,so I wondered about transplanting the display from an equivalent Samsung tv.

Does anyone know if this is do-able,and which Samsung models might use the same display?

Thanks and regards,

Nick

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BOXFreak replied on Tue, Dec 19 2017 11:25 PM

Had the same issue with a BV10-40. These displays are all very very specific and you´ll get obsolete searching for replacement. There is simply none - not even on EBay.

 

The issue with these BV10´s is that the have another priciple of operating then regular TVs have, Normally the backlit illumination is controlled by the mainboard and fed with power directly via the power supply print.

 

In the BV´s, there´s a customized T-Con-Board that has a data-communication interface to the dimmer-board of the backlight. This means that if your display fails then you´d have to replace the whole display-unit. If you only replace it with a spare-part from another (Samsung-)TV then you´ll find out that the new panel will fit into the frame from the phyiscal dimensions but can´t be adressed electronically. You´ll simply get no control signal to the backlight. That´s the really annoying *** about this TV ...

 

I´ve been looking around to find a replacement display (even from other Samsung TV-Sets) - no success so far - please do keep me informed when you have an idea! Good luck so far!

 

 

Cheers,

R.

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solderon29 replied on Wed, Dec 20 2017 12:40 PM

Thanks for the detailed reply sir.You've obviously put time in on this issue.It seems incredible that such a well made item can be deemed scrap,but yet another sad example of B&O's current attitude to product support.?

Regards,

Nick

 

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trackbeo replied on Thu, Dec 21 2017 4:35 AM

This idea is total pie-in-the-sky, and doesn't really help you, but I'd like to put it in this thread for other BeoVision 10-46 owners to at least think about: Build a Hackintosh!  What I mean is: Keep the case and the speakers but replace the screen and the electronics with more modern (or at least working, in your case) components.  The metal case of a PowerMac G5 was a work of industrial art, and people have torn out all the innards and replaced it with a PC, hacked to run OSX.  

I can imagine how to do the BV speaker system, without having to know what the engineers did to EQ it: a MiniDSP plus Hypex Class-D amps. (The BV10-46 speaker system wasn't such great shakes anyway.)  BeoLink 1000 remote control translation can be done with a Lintronic box.  Mounting the display is a problem, and carving up the boards will be model-specific.  The hardest part to get perfect, as with Hackintoshes, is matching the rear panel and the power supply/airflow.  

What would be missing from such a BeoHack is what BeoNuts want, namely the multi-room multi-system integration.  But I like the BV10-46 for the way it looks, and everything else is above average but nothing special.  (Here in the USA even the antenna ports are capped because it doesn't have a tuner.)  So emulating it doesn't seem like a huge amount of work, because you're only aiming for good-enough.

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I have a BO television BV10-40 installed new in June 2013, and faulty since July 2018.

The diagnostic has been determined as a faulty T-con card. I am explained by BO that the entire LCD panel (the television itself) needs to be replaced (as the T-con card is inside the LCD panel and cannot be changed separately!) and this is not possible as the model is obsolete ... after 5 years.

I do not accept such a commercial strategy of a Company such as BO: dropping customers after 5 years explaining them that what they have purchased is obsolete and just needs to be replaced by a new equipment!

I have written to Mr Henrik Clausen, the President of BO in Denmark, explaining the above situation and I got a response from the BO Customer Service explaining the same: they cannot do anything for me. I just have to purchase a new system!

This situation is not acceptable to customers of BO who do pay a high market price for an expected reliable product which is declared obsolete after 5 years, in my case.

I propose to the colleagues of this forum to make their problems with BO equipments known around them and to write to the President of BO in Denmark for him to realise that such a commercial strategy is not acceptable to customers. In my particular case, BO should provide a replacement T-con card and I can see around the forum that other BO equipments remain faulty because of lack of replacement parts.

Good day to all, Francis.

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Yes, you are completely right. It is a shame how thesedays the customers are treated.

But do you really believe that Mr. Henrik Clausen or any of the guy from B&O management don't know that???

Of course they are aware of that, I would even say that this IS the actual commercial strategy. Of course this is nothing special for B&O, almost all players on the market are doing the same... That's the time we are living in. Nobody wants to produce the product which last forever. Turbo capitalism, that's the name of it ...

And do you think that hundreds or even thousand emails or complaints would change anything? No way...

All those manager looks only to their next bonus-milestone. 2-3 years contract, next stop...

 

 

Vintage Bang & Olufsen

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jvezina replied on Fri, Dec 21 2018 9:38 PM

I am pretty sure that these T-Con boards could be repaired at the component level. Would it be possible to ask the service technician if they have an idea about which component failed on the board? As the problem appears to be common in all BV 10 TVs, this is probably the same components that fail in all of them. It is very frustrating to discard a TV that costs several thousands of dollars just for a transistor or chip that cost only a few dollars.

The modern way of repairing electronic equipment  by swapping boards simplifies greatly the service procedure, but at the expense of reducing significantly the useful life of goods. When the inventory of replacement boards is exhausted, the products can no longer be repaired. With repairs at the component level, electronic equipment can last decades. Older B&O equipment of the 70s through 90s (and even older) can still be repaired.

Regards,

Jean

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mobilett replied on Fri, Feb 7 2020 12:39 AM

Has anyone figured this out yet? Or found a panel that works? Is the backlight control really needed/important?

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mobilett replied on Fri, Feb 7 2020 12:39 AM

Has anyone figured this out yet? Or found a panel that works? Is the backlight control really needed/important?

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Hi, the T-Con is separate from the LCD Panel 6 screws, not a problem to replace but finding one is, usually from a 10-46 with faulty chassis!

BV 10-46 MK1 has a diffrent Panel Type as that from a MK2 this means a different T-Con,

I have a BV10-46 MK1 with faulty T-Con but I only managed to buy a T-Con from ebay for a MK2 BV10-46

MK2 has 3 HDMI connections

BV10-40 T-Cons can also use T-Cons salvaged from BV 7-40s

Regards Douglas Cunningham

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Hi, the T-Con is separate from the LCD Panel 6 screws, not a problem to replace but finding one is, usually from a 10-46 with faulty chassis!

BV 10-46 MK1 has a diffrent Panel Type as that from a MK2 this means a different T-Con,

I have a BV10-46 MK1 with faulty T-Con but I only managed to buy a T-Con from ebay for a MK2 BV10-46

MK2 has 3 HDMI connections

BV10-40 T-Cons can also use T-Cons salvaged from BV 7-40s

Regards Douglas Cunningham

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huyluy replied on Thu, Mar 12 2020 6:49 AM

Hi Douglas, please give me a note if you want to sell your T-Con MK2 🙏🙏 Thanks . regards, Tran

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moxxey replied on Thu, Mar 12 2020 10:24 AM

mobilett:

Has anyone figured this out yet? Or found a panel that works? Is the backlight control really needed/important?

Sadly it really isn't worth the effort or cost, sad as this sounds. You'd be better trying to source a pre-loved BV11-46 or 14.

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jannikf replied on Mon, Mar 16 2020 5:20 PM

But.. is it really that hard to strip the entire LCD assembly from the BV10 and replace it with a brand new LCD/OLED? From https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSbSvjQtbsg it looks as if the alu-frame comes right off.

46" is a fairly odd size nowadays, but you could buy the upcoming 48" LG OLED and set up some underscan to make it fit. It won't be 1:1 pixel mapping, but it's probably not noticeable.

The difficult part would be to fit the new OLED into the chassis, repurpose the BV10 speakers and somehow make it look pretty in the back with all the inputs. LG even supports WISA.

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Yesboss replied on Sat, May 9 2020 10:03 PM

Hi. What dealer ON eBay had the T-con board for BV 10 46? Regards Jesper 

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Yesboss replied on Sat, May 9 2020 10:03 PM

Hi. What dealer ON eBay had the T-con board for BV 10 46? Regards Jesper 

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sverreh replied on Tue, Sep 29 2020 11:37 AM

What are the symptoms of a faulty display or a faulty T-con board? My 10-46 has tarted to behave strangely, the picture freezes and fades to grayish large dots in the upper right and lower left corners. Could that be due to a faulty T-con board?

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sverreh replied on Sat, Oct 3 2020 7:15 PM

Bottom Line: My panel is gone. Took about a week to die from frist symptoms. Scart inputs still working, but of little use in todays digital world.

Sverre

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sverreh replied on Sat, Oct 3 2020 7:15 PM

Bottom Line: My panel is gone. Took about a week to die from frist symptoms. Scart inputs still working, but of little use in todays digital world.

Sverre

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I'm also interested, so if anyone go a solution - i'm all ears :)

Best

/Jesper

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cs1364 replied on Fri, Feb 26 2021 7:22 PM

Hi Jesper,

 

I have the same challenge. 2 x 10-46 with same display error. Did you manage to get a TCon card and get it fixed?

 

Christian

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