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Beogram 8000 - a couple of issues

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Dyolf
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Dyolf Posted: Sat, Aug 3 2013 10:22 PM

Hi all

My first thread here.

As a young person growing up in Denmark in the seventies, I have always been familiar with, and surrounded by B&O stuff. Unfortunately, in those days, I could never afford  the TOTL equipment. As so many others do, I am now beginning to collect that very hardware I so desired.

Yesterday I got my hands on a 8000/mmc20CL combo,for a price I thought reasonable. Maybe not so.

When I plugged in the mains, I heard that not everything was as promised. Referring to the manual, I put the player in service mod, to see how it all appeared.  After removing all the dry grease, and adjusting sensor- and pickup arm, I still cannot get the motor (platter) going. There is just a humming noise when I press play. After removing the P4/8 pin plug I can get the pickup arm to perform all tasks from the keypad.

Also there seems to be next to zero clearance between the sub-platter and the "floor", and pushing the platter manually, will result in a scraping noise. Is there anyway to raise the main bearing, to get some extra clearing?

Steen

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Dillen replied on Sat, Aug 3 2013 10:56 PM

Welcome to Beoworld !

- And to the world of collecting B&O products. Laughing

Your Beogram is in need of a thorough electronic restoration. A check for cracked
solder joints, a bunch of new capacitors and a general checkup.
All very common.

Martin

 

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Dyolf replied on Sat, Aug 3 2013 11:17 PM

Yeah, I kinda saw that coming.

What about the scraping  of the sub-platter. Is there a way to adjust this?

Steen

Edit.: Just read a post regarding this problem. Seems to be in need of a new nylon washer under the main bearing. Right?

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Dillen replied on Sun, Aug 4 2013 6:42 AM

Dyolf:

What about the scraping  of the sub-platter. Is there a way to adjust this?

Edit.: Just read a post regarding this problem. Seems to be in need of a new nylon washer under the main bearing

Yes. The nylon insert breaks if the Beogram was transported/shipped with the heavy platter fitted.
The platter should ALWAYS be packed separately.

Martin

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Dyolf replied on Sun, Aug 4 2013 12:46 PM

Hi Martin

I found the site where you sell your capacitor kit, but before purchasing I would like to be sure that I don't throw  good money after bad.

When I received the player it actually started and played 2 LP sides, operating as it should when pressing "play". I noticed that when lovering the pickup, the sensor-arm would move a further 3-5 mm. towards the center, and then behave normally. The player was'nt hooked up to amp/speakers, so I have not heard anything sound-wise yet. It was after pressing the "pause" button, that things started to misbehave. As mentioned earlier, now I only hear a humming noise from the motor, and no movement.

Regarding the drive. Is there a page that can inform the ignorant (me) as to how this motor operates?

Regards Steen

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Dillen replied on Sun, Aug 4 2013 1:01 PM

Old capacitors are causing a wide variety of faults and symptoms in these wonderful decks.
It's generally a good idea to replace the lot and deal with any remaining faults afterwards.
You really cannot diagnose anything with the old caps still in circuit.

If the carriage travels while lowering then the tracking opto adjustment at the base of the carriage is off.
Not too difficult to adjust. Check the service manual.
But replace the caps first to rule them out.

The motor is an eddy-current type. I suggest you google around a bit and read up on it if you like, since
explaining it here could easily take a couple of pages.
However, the motor coils practically never fail, it's always something in the electronics causing problems.

Don't run the deck without the black subplatter.

Martin

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