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Steffen: - I couldn't help thinking that they should start putting some new (well designed furniture) in there, instead of this boring old-fashioned cr.p ...Look like my granny's home.I'm starting to miss the cool interior pics from the B&O catalogues of the 80's and 90's...
- I couldn't help thinking that they should start putting some new (well designed furniture) in there, instead of this boring old-fashioned cr.p ...Look like my granny's home.I'm starting to miss the cool interior pics from the B&O catalogues of the 80's and 90's...
You may call it 'boring old fashioned cr.p'.
But these are examples of what you could also call 'danish classic design furniture'.
Some may even call it 'vintage'.
I think it is really nice! Unfortunately I am not able to buy the things - they are actually quite expensive.
I like the wood on the BL18 and the way they use wood for the legs of the A9 as well.
What B&O is trying to say is - I guess - that they have a heritage, a tradition that the products of today are built upon.
That seems to be one main point of the new tv - even the name is 'vintage'.
I might be wrong - we will soon see.
You don't seem to have had enough of the uniform coolness of the 'steel'n'glass furniture' from the 80's/90's yet - others have.
MM
There is a tv - and there is a BV
mr_5F00_anders_5F00_son:Only floor option...like old Avant/BV5/9
Maybe it will have bits of wood on the side like the old kit ?
From what I heard of some Bang & Olufsen dealers, I can add the following:
- The new TV is UHD (which was already 'known')- New remote (also already 'known')- Available from 6995 euro for the 55" version.- It will have 3-channel stereo- Immaculate wireless sound will be integrated- Access to Spotity, Deezer and internetradio
The latter is part of a new software update for the BV11, V1 and BV12. Which is planned to be released April 30 (today). This software update will include Deezer (in the same way Spotify is accessable today, but via AMEM source), a Digital Media Renderer (required for DLNA-streaming), the ability to select specific speaker groups per source (i.e. different groups for Radio, TV, Spotity, etc.), 30-sec screen off function for music sources, and visual updates to the EPG.
I like the picture of the living room and see it as a teaser, rather like Rolex do just before Baselworld. I think there are several clues here as to the design of the new tv and remote particularly.
B&O products are V1-32, BS2, H95, E8 and an Essence remote.11-46 now replaced with Sony A90J 65”, Sony HT-A9, Sony UBP-X800M2 and Sony SRS-NS7.
See post on the previous page:
Thanks MJ,
this last part might be off-topic in this post, but it is something that was not posted elsewhere untill now.
Just did a SW-search on my V1 - nothing new yet.
Maybe tonight with the automatic update function?
IMO - this will be a great update/upgrade indeed!
'Digital Media Renderer' - this means that we can 'throw' what we want to listen to/see from an app (will there be an update for the BeoRemote?) to the BV instead of scrolling through a long list of titles. I have several thousand (music)albums on my NAS, and with no search function I have given up on using the 'HomeMedia' source for music.
'The ability to select specific speakers group per source' - oh, have I longed for that! Mysteriously this untill now was only possible with 'Radio' as source. Great :-)
'The 30 second screen off function for music sources' will come handy - not everybody wants to look at the Spotify screen' when listening to music. End of 'List' and 'P-Mute' :-) Just hoping that this will be a specific (for each source) and not a general setting.
P.S. And 'Internetradio' too - who needs an audiosystem now?
Is that only for the V100/Avant, or part of the update?
And where is the Netflix app - the Avant will need that for 4K streaming?
I am not sure, what '3 channel stereo' is supposed to mean?
In older days this was the function that - from a (video)stereo source - made a center channel of the internal speakers, if you had external (front) speakers connected.
It might also mean, that the Avant speaker is built as a stereo set of of speakers (the moveable ones) with a shared woofer unit (in the middle).
Would be nice to know more about this - and how it sounds.
Bv7Mk3:I hope,not only 3 channel stereo only? As in one post but had the full monty in sound????
No, I think I've mentioned at least three times my dealer thought the sound was the weakest part (for want of a much better description) as it's provided via a thin speaker which hides behind the screen when not in use - you can't have amazing sound *and* no cabinet space!
But this should be improved by the addition of a sub and/or satellite speakers. Guys, remember this is EUR 6995. You can't have everything (a much-reduced price, superb panel, large panel and full monty sound)! A BV7-55 was EUR 17K not long ago!
Let's be fair to B&O here, they are giving you a superb panel and good audio, at a great price, with the option to improve the audio experience via additional B&O speakers.
No problem for me - I would have external speakers anyway.
But it is wellknown that many BV buyers go for the 'only-tv-solution', and therefore it does matter, if the sound is good (enough).
I was just curious what the '3 channel stereo' could mean.
I presume given the mechnical moving speaker that it will be a motorised stand TV as opposed to wall mountable? Will be interesting to see if the bigger screen size versions have a bigger speaker and better sound. Is the 55" the only size available at launch or are they going to launch the bigger screen sizes at the same time?
i suppose it's for people with 3 ears
Or two ears and a tounge.
I am also going to the invitation on the 8th of May and I look forward to seeing it! I don't want to believe the rumours that the sound is bad as moxxey seems to think. I like the sound of my V1 a lot and that is enough for the center speaker in my case. I will also use external speakers.
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at least bno are being proactive , good luck to them
Michael: I am also going to the invitation on the 8th of May and I look forward to seeing it! I don't want to believe the rumours that the sound is bad as moxxey seems to think.
I am also going to the invitation on the 8th of May and I look forward to seeing it! I don't want to believe the rumours that the sound is bad as moxxey seems to think.
Bad? I've never heard anything so laughable. "Bad"? Seriously? Where on earth does "bad" come in to this discussion?
The audio level is on a par with the BV11 I've been told. The BV11 has excellent audio, made better with a sub. Even better with the addition of satellites. The new Avant will be the same. It will be a step up from the V1's audio capabilities.
it's an avant , it's obviously grate and brilliant
i'm most excited i have to say
Millemissen: I am not sure, what '3 channel stereo' is supposed to mean? In older days this was the function that - from a (video)stereo source - made a center channel of the internal speakers, if you had external (front) speakers connected. It might also mean, that the Avant speaker is built as a stereo set of of speakers (the moveable ones) with a shared woofer unit (in the middle). Would be nice to know more about this - and how it sounds.
With the older Beovisions the centerspeaker could only be configured as a centerspeaker. So I suppose this is a 3.0 surround setup, but only if you don’t use external beolabs. (left, centre, right) Just one extra stereo channel compared to the BV11 and V1, which can already be configured as 2.0 (left and right)
We will have to wait how it sounds, but with a 3 channel stereo there must be a lot of speakers in the new Avant. Sounds promising to me..
Sound pretty odd to me. In that case they would sell less (external) speakers as fronts - because people already have them...
And how would these speaker be configured, if you use genuine frontspeakers as well?
Maybe I just don't understand it
With 'older BV's' I meant the MX and also the Avant1, as well as the BV7 with the 7-1/2/6 - not with the two dedicated center speakers.
Does '3 channel stereo' maybe mean that the Avant/V100 has a stereo speaker 'in the middle' as well as the two 'flying speakers'?
Seems rather confusing
Someone must already know it - who tells us more?
One of the factory workers?
"Believe nothing you read and only half of what you see, let your ears tell you the truth."
See it as 2 possible combinations:-
Either as stereo pair when no external speakers are attached and as a centre speaker if 2 external pairs or more are attached
or
A combo similar to the sound philosophy of Beosound 1 i.e. Stereo pair on the extremes with a centre "voice" speaker in the middle sharing some of the load/voice specific details.
I guess another question would be if this model will have Powerlink 7.1 connections or it relies solely on a WISA 7.1 internal board or it does not do surround at all (which makes no sense for a large high quality screen)?
We will see soon.
Millemissen: Sound pretty odd to me. In that case they would sell less (external) speakers as fronts - because people already have them... And how would these speaker be configured, if you use genuine frontspeakers as well?
As a centre speaker, even though it has 3 channels.
Needless to say a 3.x setup with 2 external speakers (full range) placed a few meters from the TV will sound much better, but that’s not what we are discussing.
Millemissen: Maybe I just don't understand it With 'older BV's' I meant the MX and also the Avant1, as well as the BV7 with the 7-1/2/6 - not with the two dedicated center speakers. Does '3 channel stereo' maybe mean that the Avant/V100 has a stereo speaker 'in the middle' as well as the two 'flying speakers'?
Excactly my thoughts! Since the V1 we have ’speaker roles’ in the sound menu, big difference! So you can configure every channel to the position where the speaker is placed. For example the BL7.1 controlled by a BV7, which also has stereo did not have that option.
With a 3-channel stereo build in the new Avant, you should be able to configure it as left front, centre and right front. At least that’s what I think..
Very interesting, indeed!
no sw update so far ..
No update on my V1.
DoubleU:. With a 3-channel stereo build in the new Avant, you should be able to configure it as left front, centre and right front. At least that’s what I think..
Maybe we then will see a small set of (WiSA compatible) rear speakers - for a compact 5.0 setup
Millemissen: No update on my V1.
i spoke to my dealer just a couple of minutes ago.
The update has been delayed for a couple of days.
Well, if they get it out with the launch of the Avant it should be ok.
P.S. Heard rumours about the 'USB-recording' beeing part of an update for all (BSys4-engine based) tv's - that would be great!
Can anyone confirm that?
Millemissen: Millemissen: No update on my V1. i spoke to my dealer just a couple of minutes ago. The update has been delayed for a couple of days. Well, if they get it out with the launch of the Avant it should be ok. P.S. Heard rumours about the 'USB-recording' beeing part of an update for all (BSys4-engine based) tv's - that would be great! Can anyone confirm that? MM
Is BV11-55 BSys4-engine based??
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Chris Townsend:It shouldn't be surprising that they can produce a better value UHD TV, if you consider an everyday supermarket UHD can now be bought for well under £1,000. You might ruffle your moustache at my last comment, but when you consider the V1's panel comes from just such a manufacturer, Samsung might not be the only source for panels at the moment. http://www.avforums.com/article/ces-2014-first-look-at-the-latest-chinese-ultra-hd-and-oled-tvs.9776
http://www.avforums.com/article/ces-2014-first-look-at-the-latest-chinese-ultra-hd-and-oled-tvs.9776
Again your comment on the V1 panel supplier.
And Rolls Royce obtain their seats from the same supplier as much of the Ford Transit interior.
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Millemissen:i spoke to my dealer just a couple of minutes ago. The update has been delayed for a couple of days. Well, if they get it out with the launch of the Avant it should be ok. P.S. Heard rumours about the 'USB-recording' beeing part of an update for all (BSys4-engine based) tv's - that would be great! Can anyone confirm that? MM There is a tv - and there is a BV.
Hi Räuber,
they may have existed - I did not know that.
The current 'rumours' in this thread was about USB-recording being part of the features of the AvantNG.
I talked t a B&O texhnician today - he mentioned that it would be a part of a common update of all the new tv's.
We will see, if that is a 'rumour' or the thruth - the new engine probably has enough power for it.
mr_anders_son: Is BV11-55 BSys4-engine based??
All new tv's are built on the same 'engine' - although there are different versions of it. This is often called the BSys4.
So yes - the BV11-55 is definitely BSys4-based.
Millemissen:All new tv's are built on the same 'engine' - although there are different versions of it. Th is is often called the BSys4 . So yes - the BV11-55 is definitely BSys4-based. MM There is a tv - and there is a BV.
Did you notice, what I wrote about different versions of the new engine?
The version in the V1's is not the same as in the BV11 and (I guess) in the BeoSystem4/BV12.
So there might be another version working in the AvantNG?
Some of the dealers on the forum must know more about the different versions of the 'big engine'.
Would be nice, if someone could clarify.
P.S. Sorry - habe die Mail erst gerade eben gesehen. Ich werde morgen darauf zurück kommen müssen, es ist jetzt zu spät - mein Bett ruft schon nach mir.
Raeuber: I would assume that also the new Avant will be BSys4-based. If so, Beosystem 4 must be able to support 4K and there will be an update for Beosystem 4 soon. Then it would be possible to connect 4K panels to Beosystem 4 and it would also be easy for B&O to upgrade BV 11 with 4K panels.
I would assume that also the new Avant will be BSys4-based. If so, Beosystem 4 must be able to support 4K and there will be an update for Beosystem 4 soon. Then it would be possible to connect 4K panels to Beosystem 4 and it would also be easy for B&O to upgrade BV 11 with 4K panels.
I don't think we'll see another standalone BS4. There's no reason for one. B&O aren't going to produce a standalone panel (the reason the standalone BS4 exists).
A 4K BV11 may happen, but it's going to be very interesting to see how they are going to price up an updated BV11-55 if the new 55" Avant is priced at only EUR6995, with motorised speaker.
Millemissen: Some of the dealers on the forum must know more about the different versions of the 'big engine'.
MM you mentioned yourself "dealers are not allowed to talk about the new TV" and you're asking for a dealer to talk publicly, on a forum, viewed by people at B&O HQ. Have you thought this through? :)
ie. they aren't posting as they have been told not to discuss it.
Moxxey - this is not about telling secrets about the new Avant!
This is about how/why/if there are different versions of the 'engine' used in the newer tv's.
Nothing new about that - it is just that too few facts about the differences in the versions are known.
My assumption (my guess) - related to the post from Raueber above - is that another version of the 'engine' will be used in the AvantNG than in the BV11.
moxxey:the new 55" Avant is priced at only EUR6995, with motorised speaker.