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NL/ML converter ... at which end ?

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elephant Posted: Sun, Jun 1 2014 1:48 AM

I have been looking at the NL/ML converter in light of the Avant announcement ,,,,,,,

It seems to me that for someone like myself you could put the NL/ML at a central point e.g. the Avant, and use existing ML cables.

 

However in my case the ML cables are relatively easy to replace ... so would it be better (but more expensive) to have several NL/ML converters - one in each link room at the end of a Cat 6/7 run ?

 

And along these lines of link room connectivity I am forming the opinion that the Essence is useless as it has no NL (nor ML) connectivity.  

 

What do you think . . . . 

Has anyone implemented an Essence . . . .

Where did you place your NL/ML . . . . . 

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You would only need one converter.

If you put that in a room of your choice (whichever is possible), you can use it there as an 'active link'.

For the other rooms (for audio) you would only need the 'normal' BeoLink Active or similar connected to ML.

I'm interested in hearing about integration of the Essence too.

But you do know, that you can connect the Playmaker to the NL/ML Converter and use iit over NL as well as over ML. Maybe the Essence could be used instead.

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If you're considering new cabling, here's what you should do: Use Cat 7 cables to be future proof, and use ML to Cat7 adaptors to run ML over Cat7 for the "old equipment". The use the same cable for NL when you switch the equipment to NL in that room. Like this you only need one convertor AND you only need Cat7. p.

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sia replied on Mon, Oct 19 2015 10:07 PM

I have a similar question to yours Millemissen. Is it possible to use music from essence in one room by connecting active speakers to a playmaker  in another room?

In that case neither NL/ML or beolink-active would be necessary.

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The Playmaker is not NL-capable (and also not ML-capable) - so no!

That goes for the Essence 1th generation too.

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sia replied on Mon, Oct 19 2015 11:08 PM

I understand. What if I connect a essence MKII with NL/ML converter and then via Beolink active to beolabs in the other room. Would that work? 

 

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Kulles replied on Tue, Oct 20 2015 7:38 AM

You would need BeoLink Converter NL/ML on each ML linkroom device only if you want to make them part of the "full" Multiroom setup (also to have an app control on each of your ML device). Keep in mind that for BeoLink Passive/Active, BL3500, BL2000, ... you will also need a current master box in this case. If that is not the goal you can do fine with only one BLC.

The only way to implement BS Essence MK1 is to have it as a LineIn source for other product... Essence MK2 is in other hand Multiroom capable.

 

 

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elephant replied on Tue, Oct 20 2015 12:19 PM
Kulles:

. Keep in mind that for BeoLink Passive/Active, BL3500, BL2000, ... you will also need a current master box in this case

There is the little black box that attaches to the BLC and which simulates a master box signal

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Hiort replied on Tue, Oct 20 2015 12:45 PM

elephant:

There is the little black box that attaches to the BLC and which simulates a master box signal

More details on the black box here

 

 

 

 

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Razlaw replied on Tue, Oct 20 2015 2:35 PM
Kulles:

You would need BeoLink Converter NL/ML on each ML linkroom device only if you want to make them part of the "full" Multiroom setup (also to have an app control on each of your ML device). Keep in mind that for BeoLink Passive/Active, BL3500, BL2000, ... you will also need a current master box in this case. If that is not the goal you can do fine with only one BLC.

The only way to implement BS Essence MK1 is to have it as a LineIn source for other product... Essence MK2 is in other hand Multiroom capable.

I am very confused about the converter. May have to buy one just to try it out and return if it does not work. I had a dealer tell me I only need one to connect an Essence to my BV7, BV10, and BS5. Additionally installation plan discussed with dealer is that converter would be located in room where my router is and connected to Masterlink there. Other products are in different rooms in the house. If a converter is needed for each device, do they need to be connected directly to the device or could all three converters be grouped together elsewhere in the house.

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A NL/ML Converter for each ML-device will take the ML-devices individually into the NL.

One NL/ML Converter will take the all masterlinked devices into the NL, without being able to adress these individually.

In most cases one converter should do the job!

You can of course place the converter in the room with your router etc.

But you could also place it in a room, where you want sound - just connect BeoLabs an an ir-eye to it.

A nice and cheap option - sort of a new 'beolink active'.

How your devices behaves (where you get sound, from which devices and on which commands) depends on the configuration of the converter.

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elephant replied on Tue, Oct 20 2015 5:30 PM
Millemissen:

A NL/ML Converter for each ML-device will take the ML-devices individually into the NL.

One NL/ML Converter will take the all masterlinked devices into the NL, without being able to adress these individually

The difference between the two is:

- first approach: each ML room, with is ML device, ML speakers, and BLC can individually join a NL source ... Useful where there are multiple NL sources ... Useful where individual NL rooms with their NL devices and speakers want to pull different NL sources

- second approach: where you have two distinct networks for different sections of the home ... Perhaps with one initial NL source and extensive ML wiring ... And where you are happy with only one sound (NL or ML) running through all ML multi linked rooms

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