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linder:

I think it is possible Moment will be introduced at CES 2015 in Las Vegas.  

It's been some time since this thread was active.

The CES 2015 is now near - one month to go.

What do we expect coming?

Or rather - what/how will the BeoSound Moment actually be?

MM

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I'm expecting HI-RES audio solution that can be streamed wirelessly to the WISA speaker range

If it's not this - there's no point - you'd just keep using your iPad 

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Seanie_230 replied on Sun, Dec 14 2014 11:42 AM

I am hoping for a device that will:

  • Play DAB radio
  • Intergrate spotify with remote control from an app 
  • Connect to my beolab penta speakers
  • Connect via ML / NL to the rest of my masterlink system to allow multiroom audio via my bedroom and other link rooms.
  • Support AirPlay 

 

I will refrain from making any changes until it's announced.

 

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PhilLondon replied on Sun, Dec 14 2014 12:40 PM

I doubt it'll get DAB - it's more likely to get Internet radios.

Also for Airplay, there are issues with Apple's licensing terms, as it's not allowed for an AirPlay device to re-send the audio wirelessly, so you can't have for now AirPlay and Wisa in the same device.

The rest, I am pretty sure you'll get.

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As for AirPlay - I am pretty sure that it will have AirPlay.

You can't make a home audio device without AirPlay support nowadays!

As for WiSA - I am pretty sure it (in addition to PL) will have WiSA support - for connecting wirelessly to the BeoLab's (if needed).

BUT it won't have WISA multiroom support - it will be NL-enabled to work directly with the newer BV's.

Making a standalone BeoSound - based on WiSA multiroom - would be crucial.

I am pretty sure, that there will be no old-school tuners (FM/DAB..) inside, but internet radio...

...and support for different audio services - including Spotify Connect.

And DLNA support too.

I would - still - hope for an internal CD player. But I don't really believe in it.

Hopefully there will be an autosense line input there.

 

All in all a very 'modern' audio system!

The important thing - though - will be the interface!

That is what could make a/the difference.

How to access our sources in a smooth/easy way (including from the NL-network) - that should be their biggest concern.

 

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Steph replied on Sun, Dec 14 2014 1:38 PM

And i'm very curious about the look :

In past threads, Roger said : "a charging station, some wood, a panel that flips,...".

The picture we saw here can't, as always, give us some details.

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My imagination:

 

Something more or less stationary containing some hardware like radio tuner, DAC, line in for sockets for diverse audio equipment, line out for amplifiers, active speakers, Bluetooth, air play, inside a bay for a tablet or phablet or smartphone, an app to control the device.

 

Once upon a time I dreamed about such a device. I shared this very realistic daydream with some Beoworlders in May 2012 you know where.

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Paul W replied on Sun, Dec 14 2014 3:34 PM

From a radio point of view, it's Internet radio for the home now! DAB is strictly for cars at the most or those little retro radios! Apart from the BBC, radio stations are now broadcasting in MONO here in the UK on DAB with 64kbps rates or 80 at the most - now compare that to streaming at 320 or lossless! The bug radio groups, you know the ones, who play the same songs by Rihanna and then 8 adverts in a row are launching extensions of their services in the new year - all in Mono! Think of DAB as a 90s technology that simply lost the plot!

For sound quality and choice now, it's Internet radio. 

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I would be happy if B&O just integrates features and functions they have scattered across different products (Playmaker, Essence, Transmitter etc) into one.

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I wouldn't - it must be much more than that.

Possibility of integrating with the NL is very important.

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Well that goes without saying.

Who in their right mind would launch a home integration platform and then not support it in a new Beosound? Big Smile

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With B&O you never know Big Smile Big Smile

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BeoBoy68 replied on Tue, Dec 16 2014 10:51 AM
CES Las Vegas is from 6 to 9 January 2015.

I hope the new BeoSound will be presented. It is Time now.Yes - thumbs up

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Roger replied on Tue, Dec 16 2014 12:06 PM

You will be able to find the Moment at your local dealer in February, and they haven't changed anything regarding the classy interface and ground breaking design. I loved the JJ design approach in the 80's where you could touch glass and get a reaction, in these green and sustainable times they have kept the wood that can be touched in the same way.

There will be no DAB option, no airplay.

I am still waiting for the final saying regarding Spotify Connect, but there will be Deezer included - without Spotify Connect it is off my shopping list for now.

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Does it - at least - have a line-in (with autosense), in order to connect an AirPlay device?

Without AirPlay and Spotify Connect it would be off the shopping list of quite so many people - I guess!

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Or should I rather ask:

WHAT does it actually have???

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koning replied on Tue, Dec 16 2014 5:45 PM

@Roger

have they gave us the old genre function back?

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MartinW replied on Tue, Dec 16 2014 7:08 PM
I have been a huge Spotify fan for ages but recently took up the offer of 12 months Deezer subscription.

I'm getting used to the app, not sure which is better but of course I have become very familiar with the Spotify one so it takes a little bit of getting used to. Deezer on my Avant is waaaaaaay better than Spotify. It works with the BeoRemote keyboard so i can type using my phone or ipad, and i can play my Deezer account on all my B&O TV's at the same time, either different songs via the smart TV app, or by using the B&O Connect function so my TV's just wirelessly stream to each other. And all this whilst also streaming Deezer on my phone. Spotify will only ever play on one device at a time which is a massive limitation, and also a massive limitation of Spotify Connect. If B&O can get B&O Connect fully functional, so you can wake up and group all your devices around the home from one app, then it really is time to change from Spotify to Deezer! And the sound is waaaaay better too. (I might have something wrong with the aaaaaaa on my keyboard!)Big Smile
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I've written it before:

the acceptance of the Moment depends on the interface, and how it acts in a NL-setup.

We might miss functions - but maybe (some of) these will come with an update sooner or later.

Thanks Martin - maybe I/we all should try out Deezer. Many of us will have time now at Christmas (vacation) time for testing Smile

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linder replied on Tue, Dec 16 2014 7:31 PM

Millemissen:

I've written it before:

the acceptance of the Moment depends on the interface, and how it acts in a NL-setup.

We might miss functions - but maybe (some of) these will come with an update sooner or later.

Thanks Martin - maybe I/we all should try out Deezer. Many of us will have time now at Christmas (vacation) time for testing Smile

MM

Maybe we all won't try Deezer.  It is not available in the US and I suspect all of North America.  I must admit this thread is starting to get frustrating because I am not really getting a good idea of what Moment is and what it can really do.  Maybe that's the problem with rumors.  I will wait for the official announcement. 

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Ups - sorry!

One should think before one writes Embarrassed

For my part - by now I have no idea, what the Moment really will bring.

MM

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linder replied on Tue, Dec 16 2014 8:00 PM

Millemissen:

Ups - sorry!

One should think before one writes Embarrassed

For my part - by now I have no idea, what the Moment really will bring.

MM

MM no need to apologize.  I probably do like all the speculation about new products.  For me, I hoping Moment has a line in Aux for my Beogram 7000 and connects to a Beovision Avant  55.  Most of the music services will be okay for me.  I actually like Qbuz better and it helps me improve my mediocre French language skills.

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Chris replied on Tue, Dec 16 2014 8:00 PM

Roger:

You will be able to find the Moment at your local dealer in February...

Roger

According to my information hardware is ready but there are still software problems.

My guess: The Waiting Moment will be there in April.

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vlohjr1 replied on Tue, Dec 16 2014 8:48 PM
My understanding is that moment will achieve all it sets out to do by June 15

Furthermore it will work with essence mkii and an attractive upgrade package will be provided

Price point is very competitive I gather
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js replied on Tue, Dec 16 2014 8:54 PM

koning:

@Roger

have they gave us the old genre function back?

The reason why I never got a BeoSound 5 is the impossibility to browse a library in a "genre > artist > album"  sequence.

This will remain my main criteria: I will purchase a Moment on day one if it does support this sequence. If not, it will be a definitive no-go I am afraid (fortunately other brands offer very nice alternatives, which already drive my Beolab speakers very well).

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BeoBoy68 replied on Tue, Dec 16 2014 11:02 PM
Chris:

According to my information hardware is ready but there are still software problems.

My guess: The Waiting Moment will be there in April.

" Believe nothing you read and only half of what you see, let your ears tell you the truth. "

Agree

Available in Spring 2015 Yes - thumbs up

[Wood prototype]

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Already shipping by the looks of itCool

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js:

The reason why I never got a BeoSound 5 is the impossibility to browse a library in a "genre > artist > album" sequence.

This will remain my main criteria: I will purchase a Moment on day one if it does support this sequence. If not, it will be a definitive no-go I am afraid (fortunately other brands offer very nice alternatives, which already drive my Beolab speakers very well).

Well, you may be waiting a while. Almost all album/artist/track tags have some type of agreed to orthodoxy in what is "correct." Digital music players will also sort albums properly, especially if you make some allowance for the initial indefinite article (A, An, The, etc). Genre is fuzzy. One person's jazz is another's soft ambient.

Don't hold your breath. Go out and enjoy.

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elephant replied on Wed, Dec 17 2014 1:44 AM
Chris Townsend:

Already shipping by the looks of it

Quantity of 1 (one) !

Or was that one crate ?

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No idea. Bottom of very first Google page search!

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elephant replied on Wed, Dec 17 2014 4:36 AM
Chris Townsend:

No idea. Bottom of very first Google page search! Beovision 7-55 Mk2, Beovision 8-32, Avant RF 28, Beolab 8000, Beoplay A9, Beoplay 2, Beocom 2, Beotime, H6, Form 2.

I thought it was one of your manifests Big Smile

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That would be some unboxing wouldn't it. $550 is a bargain though isn't it , I can't wait Wink

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Beoradio replied on Wed, Dec 17 2014 8:44 AM

Hi,

 

Looking at the HS-code, I'm really interested what kind of aparatus you're going to receive.

 

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tournedos replied on Wed, Dec 17 2014 9:26 AM

BeoBoy68:
[Wood prototype]

Could we please stop posting that picture over and over again until it gets a couple of more pixels? It's ruining the entire product for me Sad

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Steph replied on Wed, Dec 17 2014 9:54 AM

Roger said :

" they have kept the wood that can be touched in the same way "

I'm courious about the technology that can make wood a sensitive material ! Embarrassed

B&O used sensitive glass, aluminium, composite, but never wood. It's really intriguing...

Another "tour de force" by Bang & Olufsen ?

Very exciting to see and touch the Moment in flesh.

Like all B&O products, the Moment will need to be experienced in the real life !

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PhilLondon replied on Wed, Dec 17 2014 10:13 AM

It's the (alleged) prototype that's been sculpted in wood - doesn't mean the real thing will be in wood - although it is rumoured that part of it will be in wood.

Touch sensitive wood does exist though.

 

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elephant replied on Wed, Dec 17 2014 11:04 AM
Chris Townsend:

That would be some unboxing wouldn't it. $550 is a bargain though isn't it , I can't wait Beovision 7-55 Mk2, Beovision 8-32, Avant RF 28, Beolab 8000, Beoplay A9, Beoplay 2, Beocom 2, Beotime, H6, Form 2.

Ship at internal inter company price - then mark up with local costs and overheads and royalties ... So don't get too excited

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Steph replied on Wed, Dec 17 2014 11:05 AM

" Touch sensitive wood does exist though "

You're right. i remember a wood alarm clock with lighting and touch sensitive. Don't know about the durability.

The Moment is certainly in another league.

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elephant:

Ship at internal inter company price - then mark up with local costs and overheads and royalties ... So don't get too excited The Essence of B&O is discretion in design and life

I'm not that naive Yes - thumbs up

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Steph replied on Wed, Dec 17 2014 11:56 AM

I read on the forum that it will cost around 2000 Euros.

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