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Beolab 5 + oppo + non b&o screen

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olvisab Posted: Fri, Aug 1 2014 6:28 PM

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I have sold my bv7 + bl3 for buying a pair of second hand beolab 5. I plan to use it with a non b&o screen and a oppo 103 or 105. Does the oppo act ´as a preamp ? I didn't see clearly preout on it.

I didn't see neither a trigger out in order to power on the beolab 5.

Please the oppo gurus, I need some advices.

Thanks

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Yes, both 103 and 105 can be used as pre amps. I don't know much more, but happened to have been looking at this recently as need a new player and interested in possibility of connecting straight to my 18's for music only. No hands on experience though. Sure someone will be along to offer more detail. 

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olvisab replied on Fri, Aug 1 2014 8:14 PM
Thanks Stevegee

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Both Oppo 103 and 105 have optical output ... isn't that what one would use for a BL5 ?

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olvisab replied on Sat, Aug 2 2014 8:19 AM
Hi

Yes, i will do it with my bm5. The oppo is for 5.1 listening only.

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Hi, after having a quick look found this, from February  this year. Thought it might be of interest.

If you will be using the player as the pre-amplifier, then you will want to use the BDP-105. The BDP-103 has 24-bit DACs and has a low signal to noise floor, so it will likely produce audio truncations if you use the player's built-in volume controls and a hum will always be present as the amplifier will always be amplifying the noise floor.

 

If you are running through a pre-amplifier, or another device which will be doing the volume controls, then the BDP-103 will work in your configuration.

 

Best Regards,

 

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OPPO Digital, Inc.

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olvisab replied on Sat, Aug 2 2014 11:35 AM
Hi

You are right, that´s a precious information. It´s a pity they don't give more information about the preamp capabilities of their stuff on their website.

Fortunately you are hereBig Smile

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The BL5s give priority to an S/PDIF signal, over Line signal. Therefore, if they detect an S/PDIF signal, they will use that for processing and that will be your sound source.

If you don't feed them an S/PDIF signal, they will look for other input sources and use those.

You can use that to configure to various sources, with the knowledge that the S/PDIF will always override.

If you will be using multichannel playback, then you might want to use the LINE OUT from the Pre-amps of the OPPOs, for all your speakers. But even here you can let the BL5s be fed by the S/PDIF RCA OUT from the two models of OPPO players, while having your other speakers receive the LINE OUT signal from the Pre-amps.

The fact that the BL5s give priority to an S/PDIF signal is quite neat, as it gives you some options for how to configure your set-up.

I had my BL5s connected to an external sound card for 2-channel music playback, and with the LINE IN from the multichannel source pre-amp for multichannel playback.

When I wanted to listen to music, I would just send a source down to the soundcard, and from there to the speakers, through the S/PDIF connection.

When I wanted to watch multichannel movies, I would just not send a source through to the S/PDIF, and the speakers would join the other surround and rear speakers, for a nice multichannel experience.

If you use the pre-amps from your Oppo, then it's important to configure correctly, so that the Oppo understands that the BL5s will handle the low frequency, LFE portion of the multichannel signal.

Through the years, it's been humorous to follow threads here from people who are dissatisfied with the BL5 bass performance - the speakers are capable of moving a LOT OF AIR with their subwoofers, and it's often turned out that the set-up was configured wrongly, and that the subwoofer wasn't receiving much of a signal to go with, as the LFE was sent to non-existent external subwoofers.

 

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olvisab replied on Sat, Aug 2 2014 12:21 PM
Thanks soundproof for this detailed answer.

It is exactly what i intend to do except that I will use the bm5 instead of a soundcard/computer.

The only issue i have is sometimes I will probably appreciate to use my bl1 + bl14 sub for stereo listening instead of my pair of bl5. The bl1 will be located at the rear for my 5.1 setup and connected directly to my bm5.

For daily stereo listening, the bl1 will be good enough (quality and power) and it will prevent me to have an extensive use of the bl5.

The opinion and advices of the beoworlders are often accurate and usefull however It doesn't prevent me to try the speakers in order to build my own opinion.

I gave a chance to the bl1 and I found them pretty good with my bl14 sub.

As you said, the lack of bass is probably a problem of configuration or positionning.

The bl5 are for me like a modern sculpture and like modern art, you like it or hate it.

What is your center speaker with the bl5 ?

I still don't know if I will use one or the phantom speaker of the bl5. I don't have the place neither the money for another bl5. The bl4 and 7 will look ugly (not flat enough for my setup).

Thanks again.

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elephant:

Both Oppo 103 and 105 have optical output ... isn't that what one would use for a BL5 ?

BL5 have coax in and out, rather than optical, but otherwise yes. 

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Playdrv4me:

elephant:

Both Oppo 103 and 105 have optical output ... isn't that what one would use for a BL5 ?

BL5 have coax in and out, rather than optical, but otherwise yes. 

And both the 103 and 105 have coax OUT, no?

 

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soundproof:

Playdrv4me:

elephant:

Both Oppo 103 and 105 have optical output ... isn't that what one would use for a BL5 ?

BL5 have coax in and out, rather than optical, but otherwise yes. 

And both the 103 and 105 have coax OUT, no?

 

Probably, was just answering the question relating to what's on the BL5s themselves. There is a simple converter you can buy even if your equipment only has optical out. 

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Quick look on the Oppo website gives this, it's the same for 103 and 105

  • 7.1-Channel Analog Output - Individual analog 7.1-channel surround outputs are ideal to connect to a 7.1-channel or 5.1-channel surround sound system. The BDP-103 delivers an incredible sound stage and an immersive surround experience. For users with stereo speakers, the 7.1-channel analog output can be configured to a stereo down-mix mode.
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