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Razlaw: If I am tempted to buy a pair of Beolab 20s to replace my 9s, should I wait?
If I am tempted to buy a pair of Beolab 20s to replace my 9s, should I wait?
What if the rumors about the price aren't faulty, according to some these new beasts will be 4x the price of the 20s.
Beosound Stage, Beovision 8-40, Beolit 20, Beosound Explore.
Beolab
Why we write not about B & O economic downturn.Who says B & O survive to later in the year ?
Is this just an attempt posiktiv publicity ?
Maybe they should be though of as B&O's Veyron, a technical tour de force demonstrating the state of the art and what is technically feasible in speaker design and production!
Ban boring signatures!
Sal: Razlaw: If I am tempted to buy a pair of Beolab 20s to replace my 9s, should I wait? What if the rumors about the price aren't faulty, according to some these new beasts will be 4x the price of the 20s.
As it is all just rumor now, hard to know what the price will be, assuming there even is a new speaker. Rumors by their nature can be far from the truth. If the new speakers do appear, and if they are 4 times the price of 20s, I would not be able to purchase a pair. But I would not want to purchase 20s only to have something much better come out and be priced not too much more than 20s.
Razlaw, it seriously IS NOT a rumour.
Bv7Mk3:If that's so will make the lab 5 look much more of a bargain!
This sounds like the Bugatti Veyron of speakers, to create press coverage and extreme image as well as some big speakers. Top Trumps time!
Beo Century ,Beoplay V1, Beocenter 6, Ex-Beolit 12, Beotime , A8. Beolit 15 , Form 2i , Beolab 2000, Beoplay A3.Beosound 1
If these speakers are positioned in the audiophile reference class the 40.000€ are ok. It's the same price as a pair of Linn 350A.
But it is to be feared, that in press they never get a 100% Rating, even if they would be worth.....
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Beolab: Many rumours here, and most of it are faulty, but you are going to be informed with more details later this year. You are not going to be disappointed.
Many rumours here, and most of it are faulty, but you are going to be informed with more details later this year.
You are not going to be disappointed.
you learn us nothing.
Instead of sadistically torturing us
say what you know. Share !
@BeoBoy68: Why can't B&O get the white frets right??? On every speaker the same cheap look of the underneath structure... common, we have the year 2015! :)
Razlaw:I asked a dealer about this rumor a few weeks ago. Response was that dealer had heard nothing about new speakers. I was also told he had even contacted B and O and asked about these rumored speakers. I was told no new speakers this year.
Did you really think you would get any other answer?
--mika
TWG: I really pray for Bang & Olufsen. They need a big hit!
I really pray for Bang & Olufsen. They need a big hit!
They do. However a 50K Euro speaker pair will not be a big hit.
Too long to list....
beopiranha: New drivers! New speakers possibly will have 7400 W each!
New drivers! New speakers possibly will have 7400 W each!
So the mains plug will look like this then?
bayerische:They do. However a 50K Euro speaker pair will not be a big hit.
It's more for the publicity that it will create...
Clothes designer don't make money on the Haute Couture dress they sell at astronomical prices, they make money on the millions of bottle of perfume they sell to people that want to buy a bit of this designer's image.
Beoworld app with direct photo upload and emoticons.
PhilLondon: bayerische:They do. However a 50K Euro speaker pair will not be a big hit. It's more for the publicity that it will create... Clothes designer don't make money on the Haute Couture dress they sell at astronomical prices, they make money on the millions of bottle of perfume they sell to people that want to buy a bit of this designer's image.
Apples and Oranges really. We already have a Tour de Force that outplays everything else on the market at it's price, the Beolab 5's. B&O's marketing department can mess up selling air on Mars to stranded astronauts.
I welcome the Beolab X, however I just hope the developing costs (must be massive) won't make the hole in the hull of the M/S B&O even bigger.
tournedos:Did you really think you would get any other answer? --mika
- said HP personal-computer and printing vice president Mike Nash. "The opportunity now is to take everything we already know and combine that with some new expertise ... as part of our partnership with Bang & Olufsen."
http://appleinsider.com/articles/15/03/24/hp-to-replace-audio-vendor-beats-with-bang-olufsen
The new flagship speaker is now shown to some dealers - in its final design. They appear larger than the BL5, but not as tall as, say, the BL18. It also looks like they have a very large number of speakers, covering 360 deg and maybe leaving ALT all together. They do look like something that is hard to describe with words, very different to the current BL5. The final price and release date are still not known (to met), but the guesstimates given are in the same ballpark: late this fall and 40-50k $/€/£.
Roger
Hallo Roger,
Good informations from you as always,
Your 360 statement, does that mean a lot of new spearkers are on the way?
Replacement for Beolab 3?
Does the 360 look good in your opinion?
Is WISA, PHONE, OPTICAL standart in alle new speaker?
Is the new high-end model with sound calibration?
What material is it made in?
Beovision Harmony 77" 2nd Gen, Beolab 5, Beolab 17, Beosound 1, Beoplay M3, Beoplay Portal, Beoplay Earset, Beoliving Intelligence
Thank you for the information. The 360 feature seems a bit odd thinking what b&o thought about acoustics before. Maybee the new dsp is more powerful so they can compensate for this and get advantage insted. Or maybe the purpose of this speakers arent best possible sound in front of them. We have to wait and see.
Hopefully B&O make them simple to connect to other brands, the days of struggling with various cables belongs in the dark ages (sorry Steve@SoundsHeavenly)
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Jonathan:Hopefully B&O make them simple to connect to other brands, the days of struggling with various cables belongs in the dark ages (sorry Steve@SoundsHeavenly) x:________________________
Aussie Michael: Proprietary connections are just an unnecessary barrier to entry.
Proprietary connections are just an unnecessary barrier to entry.
I guess with proprietary, you mean the PowerLink connection?
The PL connection was made to have the advantage of a line level signal and the volumen controlling as well as turning on/off.
You don't find that in any conventional audio connection.
Please do remember that volumen controlling (by an active speaker) is best done directly in the speaker/the built-in amp.
How would you do that without a 'proprietary connection'?
The BL 5 had a seperate built-in volumen control (with a proprietary remote - the Beo4).
Maybe the new 'big one' could be controlled in that way too, if used with non B&O pre-amp gear (and supposedly a digital connection).
Which connection would you propose for a 'universal' way of hooking the speaker up?
MM
There is a tv - and there is a BV
Millemissen:I guess with proprietary, you mean the PowerLink connection? The PL connection was made to have the advantage of a line level signal and the volumen controlling as well as turning on/off. You don't find that in any conventional audio connection. Please do remember that volumen controlling (by an active speaker) is best done directly in the speaker/the built-in amp. How would you do that without a 'proprietary connection'? The BL 5 had a seperate built-in volumen control (with a proprietary remote - the Beo4). Maybe the new 'big one' could be controlled in that way too, if used with non B&O pre-amp gear (and supposedly a digital connection). Which connection would you propose for a 'universal' way of hooking the speaker up? MM There is a tv - and there is a BV.
Roger: The new flagship speaker is now shown to some dealers - in its final design. They appear larger than the BL5, but not as tall as, say, the BL18. It also looks like they have a very large number of speakers, covering 360 deg and maybe leaving ALT all together. They do look like something that is hard to describe with words, very different to the current BL5. The final price and release date are still not known (to met), but the guesstimates given are in the same ballpark: late this fall and 40-50k $/€/£. Roger
Interesting. With many drivers, DSP, and individual ICE amps, it should be possible to make a speaker with whatever directivity and power response you want, and even to tailor it to a particular room with room measurements similar to the bass alignment the BL5 uses. Of course then your wife will rearrange the furniture and you'll have to do it all over again.
Jeff
I'm afraid I'm recovering from the BeoVirus.
Perfect for a listening room, where the wife has no saying.
I prefer a speaker, that I/we can live with and listen to almost from everywhere.....regardless of the wife's need for rearranging the furniture.
I prefer a speaker, that I/we can live with and listen to almost from everywhere.
That doesn't excist.
Chris Townsend:If my wife was in charge of the furniture, all you would find is a lazy boy chair and two pairs of Beolab 5's
Lucky man!
There's a joke about a guy who finally got married. He's down in the basement packing his hunting gear up and his wife walks in and says:
"Darling, I think you should give up hunting and fishing, sell all your guns and boat and just spend time around the house."
He gets this horrified look on his face and his wife asks "Honey, what's wrong?"
He says, "For a minute there you sounded like my ex-wife."
She says "Ex wife!!! I didn't know you were married before!"
He says "I wasn't."
360 degree was what I meant when I wrote intelligent speaker! It is really difficult to describe. In Germany this demostration happend around 4 weeks ago. However, nobody has seen the final shape of the speakers yet. B&O presentate just a model of the speakers ;)
I'm really curious about 7400W!!!
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Jeff:. Of course then your wife will rearrange the furniture and you'll have to do it all over again.
Millemissen: Aussie Michael: Proprietary connections are just an unnecessary barrier to entry. I guess with proprietary, you mean the PowerLink connection? The PL connection was made to have the advantage of a line level signal and the volumen controlling as well as turning on/off. You don't find that in any conventional audio connection. Please do remember that volumen controlling (by an active speaker) is best done directly in the speaker/the built-in amp. How would you do that without a 'proprietary connection'? The BL 5 had a seperate built-in volumen control (with a proprietary remote - the Beo4). Maybe the new 'big one' could be controlled in that way too, if used with non B&O pre-amp gear (and supposedly a digital connection). Which connection would you propose for a 'universal' way of hooking the speaker up? MM
For me, the volume would be controlled by the non-B & O preamp (like I have for the BL 3, which I use as rears). The BL3 also turns on when it senses an input signal. To me, this is the ideal case.
The BL 7-4 (used as center) is similar except it has to have a trigger line to turn it on.
I have to turn on the BL5 with the remote. It's not the worst thing to have to do, but having the system described above seems unnecessarily complicated.
I don't know why B & O couldn't make all of the BL speakers like the BL 3 with regard to turning on and off with an input signal with the volume controlled by the preamp.
D
I've heard they are supposed to have 14 drivers each - can anyone confirm this?
/Dennis