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mjmedlo Posted: Tue, Mar 24 2015 2:43 PM
Anyone using?

Thoughts?

I'm to receive one and am looking for thoughts and reviews?
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stefan replied on Tue, Mar 24 2015 3:10 PM

Which one did you buy? And what will it do?

I`m using the TT-238 since years , it`s a great product. Connected to my BV7 cinema control - works via digital inputs.

A second one is working in the bedroom of my son. The TT-238 controls a wild mix of Beo- and non Beo-devices like a BM4500 with BG4500, a Digiality-box, Samsung Monitor, X-Box....

A third one is for spare, testing new products in the house, that has no puc control. Therefore I`m using the "scart solution".

Relay 108 controls fourteen Somfy 24V blinds via mlgw/RS232, and a few weeks ago, I received the new LIN-433 to integrate the RF security system with RF keyremotes. 

Michaels (Lindgaard) support is simply great.

It will take some time to get used to the Lintronic programming, but it`s also a lot of fun...:)

Enjoy your new Lintronic...

Stefan

 

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beojeff replied on Tue, Mar 24 2015 3:40 PM

I've been using Lintronic code-converters for years to fill in what might be missing from the PUC. You can also program one of their code-converters to connect to your BeoSystem or B&O TV to act upon the CINEMA trigger to send out IR commands when you go into CINEMA mode and to send out other IR commands when you go out of CINEMA mode. This takes a bit of work since you have to create the cable to connect to the BeoSystem/TV. Michael at Lintronic is very fast in personally responding to emails for help. However, he rarely tells you exactly how to do something. Rather, he points you to one of the documented resources on his website -- which can be rather hard to understand and you really have to read the entire thing very carefully. Also, the website is very confusing to navigate to find exactly what you're looking for. Once you get it working, though, it works exactly as it should.

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mjmedlo replied on Tue, Mar 24 2015 3:54 PM
I want to use a third party panel with a Beolink NL converter or an active kit.

I want to use a beo4 to turn on the tv and have sound come through the active kit or converter.

Id like to use only one beolink eye for both but don't know if that's possible.
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Saxpy replied on Tue, Mar 24 2015 3:54 PM

 

I've been using them for years now. Started out with a TT238 but switched a few months ago to the new version, LIN-433 get support for 433MHz radio as well. Works just great.

Controlling my Sony TV, AppleTV, Set-top box, Bluray player along with B&O audio system with just a Beo4. With the addidion of the LIN-433 I now control all NEXA switches as well.

It's a very powerful system and I love it, not that difficult to get started but it takes a bit of thinking to really get the most of the features.

The support is top-notch I think but it's recommended to read through the documentation first. I do agree that the website could use a bit clean up.

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Saxpy replied on Tue, Mar 24 2015 4:12 PM

mjmedlo:
I want to use a third party panel with a Beolink NL converter or an active kit.

 

I want to use a beo4 to turn on the tv and have sound come through the active kit or converter.

 

Id like to use only one beolink eye for both but don't know if that's possible.

I have a Sony TV connected to a BeoLink Converter that is connected via ML to a Beosound 3000. That setup works just fine. Press TV and everything is up and running! :-)

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lonfred replied on Tue, Mar 24 2015 4:37 PM
Does the Lin-433 has strong RF transmitter? I have a couple of nexa wrr-1 relays on my second floor that I would like to control by my MLGW. Today I use a weak Nexa transmitter and sometimes the signals from this is not strong enough.
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mjmedlo replied on Tue, Mar 24 2015 4:45 PM

and the TV sound comes through the active kit?

via the ML or are you running something 'out' of the sony tv

and in to the active kit?

getting my ducks in a row

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mjmedlo replied on Tue, Mar 24 2015 4:45 PM

and the TV sound comes through the active kit?

via the ML or are you running something 'out' of the sony tv

and in to the active kit?

getting my ducks in a row

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Saxpy replied on Tue, Mar 24 2015 4:48 PM

 

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lonfred:
Does the Lin-433 has strong RF transmitter? I have a couple of nexa wrr-1 relays on my second floor that I would like to control by my MLGW. Today I use a weak Nexa transmitter and sometimes the signals from this is not strong enough.

I haven't done any scientific tests but it seems to be more powerful than the normal nexa transmitters at least in my house

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Saxpy replied on Tue, Mar 24 2015 4:53 PM

mjmedlo:

and the TV sound comes through the active kit?

via the ML or are you running something 'out' of the sony tv

and in to the active kit?

getting my ducks in a row

I don't use the active kit, I use the Beolink Converter instead, the MCL/ML converter that is. The audio signal comes out of the Sony TV via RCA to the active kit and then from there over ML to the Beosound. The speakers are connected to the Beosound.

 

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mjmedlo replied on Tue, Mar 24 2015 8:48 PM

My concern is the cabling from the lintronic to the NL/ML converter; that particular eye requires an rj45 connection; 

I'll be required to go in to the Lintronic from the eye receiver supplied with their package and then extend

the connection/commands on over to the converter after that.

 

I want to be able to control a cable box with the intronic as well.  I wonder if "TV" can both send the power command

for a third party panel and I could use the red button as I do on the beo4 to pull up the guide on the cable box?

In other words. .. if TV turns on the third party panel, will the red button control another product i.e. stb?

 

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stefan replied on Wed, Mar 25 2015 12:18 PM

mjmedlo:

My concern is the cabling from the lintronic to the NL/ML converter; that particular eye requires an rj45 connection; 

I'll be required to go in to the Lintronic from the eye receiver supplied with their package and then extend

the connection/commands on over to the converter after that.

I`m not quite sure, but I think you can use the IR transmitting outputs to wire the IR input of an active kit or converter. Though you will need a special cable with an RJ45 plug.

mjmedlo:

I want to be able to control a cable box with the intronic as well.  I wonder if "TV" can both send the power command

for a third party panel and I could use the red button as I do on the beo4 to pull up the guide on the cable box?

In other words. .. if TV turns on the third party panel, will the red button control another product i.e. stb?

 

Yes. You can program macros for every command. Lintronic works the same way Beo does. You have modes and commands.

Mode is for example TV, command is a number (0-9), the color buttons, arrows left right, up-down....

So pressing TV can execute an action that will start up your panel and the cable box. Now pressing the green button (for example in TV mode) can activate the program guide in your cable. So you can map all Beo4 commands (in TV mode) to your cable box and all commands (for example in DVD mode) to your BR player..... There are sometimes problems with hold commands like volume up/down, just test it. But won`t be a problem, if you use a Beo-amp...:)

Also it might be a bit tricky to handle toggle commands like Power on many Hifi products. Beo4/5/6 wants to activate a device by pressing the source (TV, DVD, CD, RADIO....) and set the product, amp and speakers to standby pressing the red button (stdby button).

In this case "Variables" are a very useful tool.

Stefan

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mjmedlo replied on Thu, Mar 26 2015 3:29 PM

I hope to receive it this week or next.

I'll update with my progress!

 

thanks

MJM

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mjmedlo replied on Thu, Mar 26 2015 3:29 PM

I hope to receive it this week or next.

I'll update with my progress!

 

thanks

MJM

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I'm interested in this also - I read on the lintronic website that you can connect a cable (RS232?) from their box to a 3rd party TV. I understand that this would go into a socket marked 'service' on my samsung tv. So that's all straightforward.

Does anyone know if the programming for that gets done purely in the lintronic box/programme or is there something that needs to be done in the samsung tv?

I guess I could leave to lintronic box out of the cabinet and just use the external ir from the lintronic box which might well be easier.

I'm trying to work out whether to go this route or whether to get a programmable remote which might do the job. The only issue I have is that the BO overture would behind me when watching tv/playing sound through the BO speakers adjacent to the tv, so I suspect that a programmable remote wouldn't work as I'd be pointing it the wrong way, so the Lintronic box seems a good solution.

 

Cheers

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mjmedlo replied on Mon, Mar 30 2015 2:36 AM
I will pick mine up tomorrow from the post office.

Hopefully will get to tinker with it soon.

I will advise
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Saxpy replied on Mon, Mar 30 2015 5:19 PM

 

The Lintronic's IR transmitter is VERY powerful, I have my box semi-hidden and it still controls my Sony TV from angles and distances that the original Sony remote can't handle. I used to wire up the IR transmitter for each device but I've found that to be completely pointless, the transmitter is just that good. For the units hidden in a cupboard I still have it wired of course.

If the RS-232 port of the TV is active and supported then it should all be handled in the Lintronic box.

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mjmedlo replied on Tue, Mar 31 2015 3:27 AM
Well

I can't get the comport to open.

I'm going to try again tomorrow on a couple other pc machines
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mjmedlo replied on Tue, Mar 31 2015 1:42 PM
Anyone tried lintronic with windows 8?
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Saxpy replied on Tue, Mar 31 2015 4:23 PM

Works just fine on my machine.

 

If you're using that USB-RS232 cable make sure not to use the latest driver since it doesn't work.

Google it and you'll find some more info.

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mjmedlo replied on Tue, Mar 31 2015 8:00 PM

I tried it with another USB to RS232 cable also; still no luck

I keep getting "ComPort" NOT open

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stefan replied on Wed, Apr 1 2015 2:58 PM

Which converter have you bought? TT-238 - LIN-433?

If LIN-433 did you also get the ComCab04?

Does the configurator detect the converter?

Is the driver installed/working ?

Did you try the "usb detect" procedere?

I`m using the cofigurator with Windows 8 via Parallels on my macbook - works fine with TT-238 and LIN-433 (after some trouble shooting!).

Stefan

 

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mjmedlo replied on Wed, Apr 1 2015 7:55 PM
I have the 238

With a windows laptop

Have tried several things...

Michael is to do an online support call this evening.
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mjmedlo replied on Fri, Apr 3 2015 12:08 AM
Turns out it was a Windows 8 issue. Michael at Lin Tronic allowed me to call him after midnight his time so as to suit my schedule. He was most helpful and we got it worked out in short order. I hope the programming proves more simple than the connection!
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mjmedlo replied on Sun, Apr 5 2015 12:07 AM
I've gotten the lintronic working appropriately.

Last night I mapped the beo4 commands to the new third party panel

I also connected the set up to a beolink active so I'll trigger the newly connected panel to the beolink active with the pc command via the 3.5mm to power link connection. The lintronic piece is quite interesting as it really allows so much functionality.

I'll connect this set up to a pair of beolab 4000 and hope it gets the wife in the kitchen more often... We'll see
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mjmedlo replied on Sun, Apr 12 2015 6:27 PM
Well... New issue

The lintronic will work perfectly for the Samsung television but I can't get the emitter to control the Motorola cable box.

I am using both of the emitter outputs but have had no luck getting the Motorola cable box working.
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TWG replied on Mon, Apr 13 2015 12:12 PM

Do you use infrared-emitters actually or just the control-output with a stereo-jack on both ends?

If you use infrared-emitters: Use your phone's camera to check if they are actually emitting infrared light!

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mjmedlo replied on Mon, Apr 13 2015 2:32 PM

I am using the emitters; 

they work correctly for the panel I've connected, and the front of the lintronic sends out the commands when I test it; 

the problem is when i try to use the beo4 to trigger the command; I am unable to produce any result; 

I'm hoping Michael can help me fix this problem

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mjmedlo replied on Wed, Apr 15 2015 3:05 AM
Jumpers were set wrong.

All good now.

Michael... a++++++
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TWG replied on Sat, Sep 17 2016 2:55 PM

Hello,

I have problems with my TT238 HW5.1 on Windows 8, 64bit.

I can not connect the device anymore on my stationary PC. I managed to to a firmware update which I guess was a dumb decision ;-)
Now, it doesn't connect.

On the mobile PC it connects but when I try to learn a remote the decoding window pops up every 2 seconds without any remote in front of the TT238. I've read that there was some Windows 8 issue here in this thread. Maybe somebody could clear up the topic.


I wanted to copy some remotes for the Beo 5 but now it doesn't work anymore...

I hope somebody can help!

EDIT: I've found a bug in the software, too. I managed to connect and use the TT238 on an old Windows 7 32Bit Notebook. If you use the "New Function" menu item to add commands from a remote that are not in the list you can save the function and edit the name, e.g you rename "new function" in the list after saving the command to "HDD playback". BUT: If you use the "new function" menu item again and save the command, the software deletes the newly registered name and every new saved item is called "new function" in the list. This is really bad as I can imagine that nobody wants to test 20 buttons on the remote to find out what every "new function" is. :-)

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Griebel replied on Tue, Sep 20 2016 7:58 AM
TWG:

EDIT: I've found a bug in the software, too. I managed to connect and use the TT238 on an old Windows 7 32Bit Notebook. If you use the "New Function" menu item to add commands from a remote that are not in the list you can save the function and edit the name, e.g you rename "new function" in the list after saving the command to "HDD playback". BUT: If you use the "new function" menu item again and save the command, the software deletes the newly registered name and every new saved item is called "new function" in the list. This is really bad as I can imagine that nobody wants to test 20 buttons on the remote to find out what every "new function" is. :-)

I'm glad that I'm not the only one having this bug! Contacted Lintronic about it, but they did not believe meAngry. Well, I found a way around by just editing/adding manually in the database file the new function, which can be found in the Lintronic folder.
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TWG replied on Tue, Sep 20 2016 1:57 PM

They didn't believe you?? What kind of arrogant customer service is this? In the past I had good experiences with Lintronic. I've sent a support request email this weekend... let's see if and when they reply.

The database editing seems to be a great hint. Do you have to edit every new function entry or how does it work?

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Griebel replied on Wed, Sep 21 2016 5:57 AM
TWG:

The database editing seems to be a great hint. Do you have to edit every new function entry or how does it work?

You need to add every new function in the database, which will then display in the Code Learn window. It's very easy to do.
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TWG replied on Fri, Sep 30 2016 6:04 AM

Griebel:
TWG:

 

The database editing seems to be a great hint. Do you have to edit every new function entry or how does it work?

 

 

You need to add every new function in the database, which will then display in the Code Learn window. It's very easy to do.



thank you for the great hint!


by the way: Still no answer or sign of life from Lintronic. I didn't remember the service being so bad!? Is something wrong with Lintronic or why don't they answer to support emails?

 

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TWG replied on Sun, Oct 23 2016 8:07 AM

Update guys: Now it's over a month ago and I got NO support / answer from lintronic!

Any alternatives to this company? Lousy / non existent customer service is a no go!

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frog replied on Wed, Jan 25 2017 8:25 PM

The answer generally is to use a raspberry Pi with LIRC for IR. Energenie have HATs that also handle RF. I've given up on Lintronic as the service was bad, the price was extortionate (I suppose it was a captive market), and now building my own. I use a raspberry to control (switch on and off) a TV for my Beosystem 3 via HDMI CEC and LIRC to handle the source boxes (AppleTV, Sky etc.). I've also integrated with the Amazon Alexa service for voice control  (though use a MLGW to handle the commands)

Lintronic? I think they have had their day, and there are many other (cheaper) ways to solve integrations

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TWG replied on Sun, Feb 19 2017 9:08 AM

Hi guys,

does anybody have an older Firmware for the TT455-RT-238 on his PC? Maybe the misbehaviour is due to the latest firmware upgrade.

Hopyfully you can downgrade that thing as there are many remotes I want to copy to the Beo 5...

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liberal replied on Sun, Feb 19 2017 2:17 PM

Hi,

I've found a zip file on an old laptop with firmware version TT455-RT-238-006-001-034-053.

Is that version any use to you?

 

Best,

 

Paul

 

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TWG replied on Mon, Feb 20 2017 6:06 AM

Hello,


yesterday I wrote an email to Lintronic asking about my support ticket from september. I had experienced good customer service from Lintronic in the past so I was wondering why there was no answer.

To my positive surprise: I've got a reply within 3 hours on a sunday! That was a good sign!

Regarding my ticket it must have been a server problem so they didn't see it and therefore couldn't respond properly.

Michael from Lintronic told me that he will help to solve my problem and I'm very happy to let you know about that! Smile

As soon as we have solved it, I'll update this thread again with detailed information as others might be interested if they have the same problem.



@Paul: Thanks, that could be worth a try.

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