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vikinger
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vikinger replied on Sun, Aug 23 2015 10:31 PM

Millemissen:

@Graham

I must repeat my question from above.

I see no (mainstream) market for an expensive product like that.

Who should buy it?

MM

In my view the motorised hinge or stand accounts for a lot of the value in a B&O TV. A motorised soundbar (or, for that matter, a centre speaker) would also enable the upgrading of screens/ panels at low cost. But, I would agree that it still would not appeal to the average TV buyer, still being too high in cost however it was done. The average buyer might spend £200 or £300 extra on a cinema system, but no more.

Having said all that, there are very few motorised hinges/stands/ brackets on the market, and the few that are are very expensive and terrible looking contraptions with no real design appeal.

Graham

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elephant replied on Sun, Aug 23 2015 10:42 PM
Millemissen:

The adjustments of the sound aquires a menu/an interface.How would you have that on a speaker?

A row of tiny leds?

Red led numbers behind speaker cloth?

An led which is din or bright based volume?

And what should PUC and IR funcionality do on a speaker

Bl3500

Bl2000

I'll the PUC puzzles me

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elephant replied on Sun, Aug 23 2015 10:54 PM
Millemissen:

@Lano

Do you really expect that people, who buy budget tv's ('the Beo's are too expensive'), would invest in a B&O Play-bar with these functionalities (which cost) and a BeoRemote One???

MM

The A8 had a remote that was a simple disc ... I assume it was inexpensive and that is all one would need

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beojeff replied on Sun, Aug 23 2015 11:11 PM

Millemissen:

Agree on the first part.

On the second - no!

When you say, that 'we need a proper center....', you assume that we also would have a B&O-tv without built-in speakers.

But we don't - and it does not seem to be, what B&O want at the moment.

The BV's have speaers and are ready to use...without fussing with external gear.

MM

I fear that you are correct in your observation that B&O is now building the center channel into the panels. However, I feel that building the center channel into the panel compromises the most important speaker of all: the center channel. The center channel gives us the dialog and needs to be on par with the other speakers in a  surround setup. As tv panels get thinner and thinner, this greatly reduces the quality of a built-in speaker. The center channel loudspeaker needs adequate size to do its job properly. I remember the great difference when I replaced my BeoLab 4000s with the BeoLab 10. I felt that I finally had a speaker to match the BeoLab 8000s and BeoLab 1s. If B&O wants to continue being known for its quality of loudspeakers and for a nice cinema effect, it cannot neglect the center channel. Also, when using a projector for Cinema mode, we need flexibility with the placement of the center channel speaker.

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elephant replied on Sun, Aug 23 2015 11:53 PM
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BeoGreg replied on Mon, Aug 24 2015 8:34 AM
I can't see why launching a Beoplay sound bar aimed at the millions of LG and Samsung tv's owners would be a bad idea.

Make it simple, nice and fairly priced and I'll buy one for my father in law (philips lcd).

As far as I know, the A2 or Beolit 15 doesn't have settings and remote and they sell well.
Millemissen
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@beojeff (and elephant)

I am sure B&O could make a speaker/center speaker - like you describe.

However, would they want to do that? And do we really need a seperate speaker for that?

Maybe speakers design/construction/tuning has moved on!!! 

http://www.tonmeister.ca/wordpress/2014/05/09/bo-tech-beovision-avant-audio/

And maybe the majority of the buyers are pleased with the flexible speakers concept, that is already built-in, when they get the tv home. Those who want more, can easily expand and use the built-in speakers as a genuine center.

You may be right, when you mention the 'Cinema center speaker issue'.

Nothing (new) there from B&O, but after all - at the moment - there are certain things, that can't get a high priority at B&O.

MM

There is a tv - and there is a BV

Millemissen
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BeoGreg:
I can't see why launching a Beoplay sound bar aimed at the millions of LG and Samsung tv's owners would be a bad idea.

Make it simple, nice and fairly priced and I'll buy one for my father in law (philips lcd).

As far as I know, the A2 or Beolit 15 doesn't have settings and remote and they sell well.

A soundbar boost the thin sound of a flat-tv, makes it louder.

If that is what people expect from 'good sound', you may be right.

Why not then?!

And maybe they think so in Struer (for a B&O Play product) - give the people, what they want!

I don't know.

Personally - I 'd prefer the real thing: a speaker, that is designed for and together with the audioengine of a tv.

MM

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