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Essence Mk 2 (et al) unpacked

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elephant replied on Sat, Aug 29 2015 5:27 PM
Jeff:

Oh no elephant! You appear to have...the Comfy Chair! Complete with the Soft Cushions! No one expects the...

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Beovirus victim, it's gotten to be too much to list!

If I had panned left you would have seen ... Scatter Cushions !!!

At least no pipe nor slippers in sight Devil

PS I owe you a late PM, I only discovered it as part of using BeoWorld in the Mac ! 99.89% of the time I post via Philippe's app.

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Beroli replied on Sat, Aug 29 2015 6:05 PM

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Livius:

Have a look at the menu configuration / nl management. Here you can find all the NL sources and you can remove the ones you do not have.

Thank you Smile

Just the two items appear there - the E2 and the BCL

Hi elephant,

Really, great thread

I did the NL/ML-Setup myself and yes it´s a little bit tricky. there is a link to the installation guide version 1.2  for the Beolink Converter NL/ML somewhere in this forum. It´s really usefull. Don´t forget to pull the powercord after every changes in the configuration. The BLC needs a restart to do the new settings. I removed some devices in the NL management myself and changed some settings and forgot to restart - in the end I shouted at the box. But mostly "The reason for failure is almost sitting in front of the device" Big Smile. Don´t forget to update the software. The latest version from the BeoLink Converter NL/ML is 1.4.1.19311 from 11 June 2015. Have fun with the new Essence MK 2 and the BLC. Take care! 

Cheers Beroli

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elephant replied on Sun, Aug 30 2015 1:15 AM
Beroli:

Hi elephant,

Really, great thread

I did the NL/ML-Setup myself and yes it´s a little bit tricky. there is a link to the installation guide version 1.2 for the Beolink Converter NL/ML somewhere in this forum. It´s really usefull. Don´t forget to pull the powercord after every changes in the configuration. The BLC needs a restart to do the new settings. I removed some devices in the NL management myself and changed some settings and forgot to restart - in the end I shouted at the box. But mostly "The reason for failure is almost sitting in front of the device" . Don´t forget to update the software. The latest version from the BeoLink Converter NL/ML is 1.4.1.19311 from 11 June 2015. Have fun with the new Essence MK 2 and the BLC. Take care!

Cheers Beroli

Thanks mate. It's good that we can have good debates and discussion while remaining friends and helping one another.

And now you mention cutting the power I remember that being mentioned.

But in my excitement I had completely forgotten !

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BeoBoy68 replied on Sun, Aug 30 2015 1:55 AM

The BeoSound Essence MK I Cardbox Yes - thumbs up
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elephant replied on Sun, Aug 30 2015 2:51 AM
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The BeoSound Essence MK I Cardbox

LaughingLaughingLaughing

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Raeuber replied on Sun, Aug 30 2015 8:11 AM
Hello elephant,

it seems Essence Mk2 looks different to Mk1. Is it still possible to hang Mk2 on a wall?

Regards

Räuber
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mbee:

BeoBoy68:
Why B&O didn't use the nice BeoLink Converter design for the BeoSound Essence box ?! SurpriseConfused

Simply because the Essence is wifi, so this big aluminum plate is not good for wireless antennas. There is not such a problem with the converter as it doesn't have any kind of wireless antenna.

Exactly why the Apple Time Capsule, Airport Express et all are made of plastic :-) 

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elephant, a really great thread - thanks for sharing the photos and nice to see the Beo Baby :-)

 

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elephant replied on Sun, Aug 30 2015 11:20 AM
Raeuber:

Hello elephant,

it seems Essence Mk2 looks different to Mk1. Is it still possible to hang Mk2 on a wall?

Regards

Räuber

I don't recall the Mark 1's instructions.

And your question prompted me to look at something I had discarded in my rush to get to the music Big Smile

I hope these photos help

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vlohjr1 replied on Sun, Aug 30 2015 12:39 PM
elephant:

I don't recall the Mark 1's instructions.

And your question prompted me to look at something I had discarded in my rush to get to the music

I hope these photos help

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elephant replied on Sun, Aug 30 2015 1:08 PM
Aussie Michael:

elephant, a really great thread - thanks for sharing the photos and nice to see the Beo Baby :-)

She's the Mark 2, Mark 1 has already made his appearance here some time ago Smile

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Mark replied on Mon, Aug 31 2015 2:16 PM
looks great Elephant

we tend to forget there is more to design than designing.

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PK replied on Wed, Sep 2 2015 6:37 PM

IMG_5F00_0847.JPG 

i got matching packages :)

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PK replied on Wed, Sep 2 2015 7:43 PM

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@ PK

Good Choice Big Smile

Really pity that the white box look so cheap Sad
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BeoBoy68:
@ PK Really pity that the white box look so cheap Sad

No it doesn't.  It looks good

Well done PK 

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L1NO replied on Sat, Sep 5 2015 3:27 PM

PK, could you test something for me? I'm nearing the purchase of a Essence and i'm wondering: In the BeoMusic app there is access to iOS music library. If used, the Essence wil play the selected music, but can you "join" this from another room?

I'm still troubled that Airplay does not distribute from say A9 to Essence, Yamaha and their new MusicCast does this fine..

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L1NO:

I'm still troubled that Airplay does not distribute from say A9 to Essence, Yamaha and their new MusicCast does this fine..

Please tell more:

Did you try the AirPlay distribution on the Yamaha-thingies out, or did you just read it?

If last one, where did you read it?

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L1NO replied on Sat, Sep 5 2015 9:18 PM

In an email from Yamaha they assure that they distribute any source externally but also the internal sources. Also they accept any blutooth hid device for control, so you can even hookup the essence wheel. Hook this up to an arduino IR translator and you have a verry cheap but much more capable receiver. The one touch 'join' is ofcourse better executed on b&o side. But why does the essence not distribute airplay again? 

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Let's say it so: I want to see (=hear) that, before I believe it.

I don't know of any case - besides from iTunes - that Apple allows for streaming to more than one device at the time.

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elephant replied on Sun, Sep 6 2015 12:49 AM
L1NO:

PK, could you test something for me? I'm nearing the purchase of a Essence and i'm wondering: In the BeoMusic app there is access to iOS music library. If used, the Essence wil play the selected music, but can you "join" this from another room?

I'm still troubled that Airplay does not distribute from say A9 to Essence, Yamaha and their new MusicCast does this fine..

I think I succeeded with this last night.

I will repeat this test later today.

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Millemissen:

Let's say it so: I want to see (=hear) that, before I believe it.

I don't know of any case - besides from iTunes - that Apple allows for streaming to more than one device at the time.

MM

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Confirmed that I go multi link iOS tracks ....

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And also when using Susie's iPad Mini which happens to be running iOS 9 ...

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Well done elephant - is this itunes music stored on the actual device and or streaming from a different location?

From what I understand of your post you are able to have a song in your itunes library streaming to multiple locations - something that in the past one has only been able to do when they stream from itunes on a computer and not on an ios device?

Kind regards

Michael.
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Elephant, can I ask do you still have the mk1 essence as well, does this show up in the music app with the mk2?

I am asking as I have a mk1 essence and thinking of getting a mk2 and wondered how they would both work with the app as the mk1 is not able to join the multiroom.

thanks

Toby

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L1NO replied on Sun, Sep 6 2015 8:39 AM

Well, they accept airplay. And distribute this to other receivers or any of the sonos like speakers they make. So a single point airplay from ios to multiple receivers distributed trough utp.

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badgersurf:

Elephant, can I ask do you still have the mk1 essence as well, does this show up in the music app with the mk2?

I am asking as I have a mk1 essence and thinking of getting a mk2 and wondered how they would both work with the app as the mk1 is not able to join the multiroom.

thanks

Toby

Sorry Toby, I held off until now, so my first and only Essence is a Mark 2 and therefore multi-room link enabled-- and the new BLC is link enabled too.

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Aussie Michael:

Well done elephant - is this itunes music stored on the actual device and or streaming from a different location?

From what I understand of your post you are able to have a song in your itunes library streaming to multiple locations - something that in the past one has only been able to do when they stream from itunes on a computer and not on an ios device?

Kind regards

Michael.

It was from tracks or albums on the various iDevices.

However there is something tricky going on:

-- iTunes tracks purchased by that device that are downloaded onto the device play

-- Apple Music downloads don't play

-- iTunes purchased by the family group owner appear not to play

-- it may even be that MP3 rips by the family group owner don't play

So great when it works and as maddening as hell itself when you can see a grayed out track you are lusting to hear .....

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elephant:

Sorry Toby, I held off until now, so my first and only Essence is a Mark 2 and therefore multi-room link enabled-- and the new BLC is link enabled too. BeoNut since '75

Thanks Elephant, for some reason thought you had a mk1 as well.

Great post by the way and hope you get it all running smoothly

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elephant replied on Sun, Sep 13 2015 1:32 PM

However there is something tricky going on:

-- iTunes tracks purchased by that device that are downloaded onto the device play

-- Apple Music downloads don't play

-- iTunes purchased by the family group owner appear not to play

-- it may even be that MP3 rips by the family group owner don't play

So great when it works and as maddening as hell itself when you can see a grayed out track you are lusting to hear .....

In demonstrating the Apple Watch controlling the Essence I suddenly realised the Watch was talking via the Phone. I airplane moded the Phone and establish a direct connection from the Watch to the Essence.

I then carefully defined Bluetooth connections directly from the "source device" (Watch, iPad, iPhone, Mac) and found that now any device could stream Apple Music - no gaps.

I now feel I am in control the environment ... Until my wife Wales off with the opera playing phone in HR pocket, and the music died Big Smile

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Razlaw replied on Sun, Sep 13 2015 4:11 PM

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Step 4 all is unwrapped and on display

 

From the top ...

 

BeoLink Converter NL/ML

 

Essence Mk 2

 

Essence table top remote

 

ML Power Box

 

 

 

 

If I order an Essence and a BeoLink converter, do I need to order the ML Poer Box also, or is that included with the converter?

 

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L1NO replied on Sun, Sep 13 2015 4:27 PM

Millemissen:

Confirmed that I go multi link iOS tracks ....

I'm curious. What does the back button do? Can you 'ignore' the rotation of the device?

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L1NO replied on Sun, Sep 13 2015 4:27 PM

Millemissen:

Confirmed that I go multi link iOS tracks ....

I'm curious. What does the back button do? Can you 'ignore' the rotation of the device?

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@L1NO

You are quoting me for something, that elephant answered on my request.

The first one he will have to answer.

The second one - no you can't ignore the rotation of the device.

Rotating gives you access to the two 'interfaces' of the app.

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elephant replied on Sun, Sep 13 2015 10:37 PM
L1NO:

I'm curious. What does the back button do? Can you 'ignore' the rotation of the device?

In portrait mode the back button takes you back to the source screen without trying to rotate the device.

To select the linking/joining screen press the link symbol.

You then get a portrait view with text at 90 degrees.

Pressing back takes you back.

No rotations required - other than turning your head sideways to read ....

Note that the photo below is rotated although in real life my iPhone was not !

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mjmedlo replied on Mon, Sep 14 2015 12:08 AM
Razlaw:

If I order an Essence and a BeoLink converter, do I need to order the ML Poer Box also, or is that included with the converter?

You only need the ML Power box if you don't have an ML product
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elephant replied on Mon, Sep 14 2015 12:50 AM
mjmedlo:

You only need the ML Power box if you don't have an ML product

I.E. If you only have ML link room speakers like 3500 and 2000.

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Razlaw replied on Mon, Sep 14 2015 1:24 AM
mjmedlo:

You only need the ML Power box if you don't have an ML product

Thanks!

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