Sign in   |  Join   |  Help
Untitled Page

ARCHIVED FORUM -- March 2012 to February 2022
READ ONLY FORUM

This is the second Archived Forum which was active between 1st March 2012 and 23rd February 2022

 

Phonograph volume on Beomaster 4500

rated by 0 users
This post has 6 Replies | 1 Follower

Piaf
Top 50 Contributor
Victoria, British Columbia Canada
Posts 2,639
OFFLINE
Founder
Piaf Posted: Fri, Jul 20 2012 2:06 AM

Is it what is to be expected when playing a phonograph record on a Beomaster 4500 that the volume needs to be set considerably higher ‘vs. a CD, 72 for the record and 55 for the CD to achieve the same level of volume?

 

The Beomaster 4500 does not come with a RIAA phono pre-amp, so I have an external one. I am sure it doesn’t matter but I am using a Beogram 8002 with this Beomaster 4500.

 

Jeff

Beogram 4000, Beogram 4002, Beogram 4004, Beogram 8000, Beogram 8002, Beogram 1602. Beogram 4500 CD player, B&O CDX player, Beocord 4500, Beocord 5000 T4716, Beocord 5000 T4716, Beocord 5000 T4716, Beocord 8004, Beocord 9000, Beomaster 1000, Beomaster 1600, Beomaster 2400.2, Beomaster 2400.2, Beomaster 4400, Beomaster 4500, Beolab 5000, Beomaster 5000, BeoCenter 9000. BeoSound Century,  S-45.2, S-45.2, S-75, S-75, M-75, M-100, MC 120.2 speakers; B&O Illuminated Sign (with crown & red logo). B&O grey & black Illuminated Sign, B&O black Plexiglas dealer sign, B&O ash tray, B&O (Orrefors) dealer award vase,  B&O Beotime Clock. Navy blue B&O baseball cap, B&O T-shirt X2, B&O black ball point pen, B&O Retail Management Binder

 

tournedos
Top 10 Contributor
Finland
Posts 7,357
OFFLINE
Bronze Member
Moderator
tournedos replied on Fri, Jul 20 2012 7:08 AM

MMC cartridges have a slightly lower output level than the usual MM cartridges from other manufacturers. B&O's kit obviously knows this and is designed accordingly. Since you're using a 3rd party RIAA preamp, I doesn't compensate for this. Your options are to get a preamp with adjustable gain, or just forget about the problem.

--mika

joeyboygolf
Top 25 Contributor
Ely, Cambridgeshire, UK
Posts 4,188
OFFLINE
Bronze Member

The gain of your RIAA pre amp is designed for "normal" moving magnet cartridges. However the MMC range from B&O have an output at around 60% of "normal" and hence you need to increase the volume on your Beomaster to compensate.

This is quite normal unless, like me, you have an RIAA pre amp with increased output such as the TC770LC from www.phonopreamps.com

***edit***  Damn, you beat me to the post!!!

Regards Graham

Piaf
Top 50 Contributor
Victoria, British Columbia Canada
Posts 2,639
OFFLINE
Founder
Piaf replied on Fri, Jul 20 2012 4:31 PM

Thank you Graham, Your information was most informative and helpful!

I just ordered the TC770LC you recommended.

Jeff

Beogram 4000, Beogram 4002, Beogram 4004, Beogram 8000, Beogram 8002, Beogram 1602. Beogram 4500 CD player, B&O CDX player, Beocord 4500, Beocord 5000 T4716, Beocord 5000 T4716, Beocord 5000 T4716, Beocord 8004, Beocord 9000, Beomaster 1000, Beomaster 1600, Beomaster 2400.2, Beomaster 2400.2, Beomaster 4400, Beomaster 4500, Beolab 5000, Beomaster 5000, BeoCenter 9000. BeoSound Century,  S-45.2, S-45.2, S-75, S-75, M-75, M-100, MC 120.2 speakers; B&O Illuminated Sign (with crown & red logo). B&O grey & black Illuminated Sign, B&O black Plexiglas dealer sign, B&O ash tray, B&O (Orrefors) dealer award vase,  B&O Beotime Clock. Navy blue B&O baseball cap, B&O T-shirt X2, B&O black ball point pen, B&O Retail Management Binder

 

Piaf
Top 50 Contributor
Victoria, British Columbia Canada
Posts 2,639
OFFLINE
Founder
Piaf replied on Tue, Jul 31 2012 4:07 AM

Hi Graham,

 

I just received the new pre-amp you recommended and it did EXACTLY what it is supposed to do, as you said it would.

 

Suffice to say I am delighted at the difference and the need to turn down the volume when switching to CD or tape no longer necessary. Smile

 

Thank you so very much!

 

Jeff

Beogram 4000, Beogram 4002, Beogram 4004, Beogram 8000, Beogram 8002, Beogram 1602. Beogram 4500 CD player, B&O CDX player, Beocord 4500, Beocord 5000 T4716, Beocord 5000 T4716, Beocord 5000 T4716, Beocord 8004, Beocord 9000, Beomaster 1000, Beomaster 1600, Beomaster 2400.2, Beomaster 2400.2, Beomaster 4400, Beomaster 4500, Beolab 5000, Beomaster 5000, BeoCenter 9000. BeoSound Century,  S-45.2, S-45.2, S-75, S-75, M-75, M-100, MC 120.2 speakers; B&O Illuminated Sign (with crown & red logo). B&O grey & black Illuminated Sign, B&O black Plexiglas dealer sign, B&O ash tray, B&O (Orrefors) dealer award vase,  B&O Beotime Clock. Navy blue B&O baseball cap, B&O T-shirt X2, B&O black ball point pen, B&O Retail Management Binder

 

joeyboygolf
Top 25 Contributor
Ely, Cambridgeshire, UK
Posts 4,188
OFFLINE
Bronze Member

Another satisfied customer!

Thanks Jeff

Regards Graham

Piaf
Top 50 Contributor
Victoria, British Columbia Canada
Posts 2,639
OFFLINE
Founder
Piaf replied on Tue, Jul 31 2012 6:12 PM

I am entirely so, and thank you very much!

Jeff

Beogram 4000, Beogram 4002, Beogram 4004, Beogram 8000, Beogram 8002, Beogram 1602. Beogram 4500 CD player, B&O CDX player, Beocord 4500, Beocord 5000 T4716, Beocord 5000 T4716, Beocord 5000 T4716, Beocord 8004, Beocord 9000, Beomaster 1000, Beomaster 1600, Beomaster 2400.2, Beomaster 2400.2, Beomaster 4400, Beomaster 4500, Beolab 5000, Beomaster 5000, BeoCenter 9000. BeoSound Century,  S-45.2, S-45.2, S-75, S-75, M-75, M-100, MC 120.2 speakers; B&O Illuminated Sign (with crown & red logo). B&O grey & black Illuminated Sign, B&O black Plexiglas dealer sign, B&O ash tray, B&O (Orrefors) dealer award vase,  B&O Beotime Clock. Navy blue B&O baseball cap, B&O T-shirt X2, B&O black ball point pen, B&O Retail Management Binder

 

Page 1 of 1 (7 items) | RSS