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New Beoplay H5, bluetooth

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Michael replied on Thu, Jun 30 2016 6:50 PM

jonnyb:

Indeed, Michael - they're both lossy, but broadly speaking the AAC compatibilty is the iOS equivalent, quality-wise, to aptx on Android.

I guess you could argue that and I do not believe AptX has any advantages over AAC really. It is probably more about CPU and energy consumption. I notice when I play bluetooth music on my computer (and my phone) that it drains the battery quicker. When I use my MacBook Pro I can see a process that is coding the music to be sent to the headphones take up quite a lot of cpu. Also it would not make much sense to re-encode music - but I believe this is happening on iOS as well. 

One could argue that since the music we listen to mostly is lossy, and probably in AAC or any similar codec - AptX wouldn't make any difference at all. It is just an alternative to what bluetooth used to be for music back in the days. 

Anyways, enjoy your music people. I sure do! 

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Roy replied on Fri, Jul 1 2016 9:21 AM

I bought these earphones and I have to say: they are impressive! Sounds is very nice, build quality is very good and they sit in my ears while running without falling out. (Thanks to Comply Tips). 

Thanks B&O for building another very nice peace of equipment. 

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http://www.whathifi.com/news/bo-play-h5-are-companys-first-wireless-in-ear-headphones

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TWG replied on Fri, Jul 1 2016 10:33 AM

jonnyb:

Indeed, Michael - they're both lossy, but broadly speaking the AAC compatibilty is the iOS equivalent, quality-wise, to aptx on Android.



You're both right. I had to re-read to fresh up my memory. I'm sorry! Smile
AAC and AptX are audio codecs and they are distributed using the A2DP-Profile of the Bluetooth-Standard. AptX is a general standard, not only related to Android.


So, both worlds could potentially enjoy the new Bluetooth headphones, no matter if you use a Blackberry, Android, iPhone or Windows. :)

Does anybody know if the H5 supports gesture control (tapping or s.th.) to skip tracks, too?

It would be very nice if somebody know IF and WHAT additional colors will be avaiable? I would like a blue one or a fresh green like on the old A8 for sports.

 

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jonnyb replied on Fri, Jul 1 2016 10:57 AM

I bought a pair yesterday and I'm quite impressed so far. I'm using the Beoplay app to make the sound bassier and warmer, otherwise I think the default sound is too treble-y. There's decent separation and detail and a good bass thump for electronic and dance music.

The design and materials are really nice, though I worry about the fabric cord getting caught on Velcro on my winter jacket once the summer is over.

The charging cube is a lovely little thing and the magnetic docking is a great touch. The magnetic clicking together round the neck to put them into stand-by is a wonderful feature - they've really thought about usability.

Music control and calls are controlled by the in-line remote, so you don't actually do gestures on the earphones themselves.

Another impressive Play product, I think.

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TWG replied on Fri, Jul 1 2016 11:16 AM

Thank you for the impression!

Is it soft touch plastic (bad!) or normal plastic (good)? Can you use the answering key of the remote to skip tracks by double clicking?

Can you reset the soundprofile to default with the app?

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jonnyb replied on Fri, Jul 1 2016 11:24 AM

TWG:

Thank you for the impression!

Is it soft touch plastic (bad!) or normal plastic (good)? Can you use the answering key of the remote to skip tracks by double clicking?

Can you reset the soundprofile to default with the app?

It's soft-touch plastic (which I actually think is good!).

Yes, you can skip tracks with a double-click.

Yes, you just centre the dot in the app to restore the default sound.

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TWG replied on Fri, Jul 1 2016 11:42 AM

soft touch plastic is not good in the long term: I have an old SonyEricsson P1 phone resting in a cupboard with soft touch plastic battery cover and nowadays it became sticky/gluey. Don't want that to happen with my headphones ;-)

Thanks for the answers!

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jonnyb replied on Fri, Jul 1 2016 11:53 AM

Perhaps it depends on the quality of the soft-touch finish. My Beolab 3 speakers' finish is still perfect after 10 years!

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Michael replied on Fri, Jul 1 2016 1:03 PM

TWG:

soft touch plastic is not good in the long term: I have an old SonyEricsson P1 phone resting in a cupboard with soft touch plastic battery cover and nowadays it became sticky/gluey. Don't want that to happen with my headphones ;-)

Thanks for the answers!

Depends very much on the material used. But I have noticed this on many different products as well. I wonder if those plastics can be a health hazard when they have deteriorated to the sticky mess. 

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Hiort replied on Fri, Jul 1 2016 1:22 PM

Michael:

Depends very much on the material used. But I have noticed this on many different products as well. I wonder if those plastics can be a health hazard when they have deteriorated to the sticky mess. 

One of my Beocom 2 table bases have got all sticky and messy....

 

 

 

 

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@jonnyb

could you please, tell me how much sound they are leaking at a normal volume level?

Personally I don't like to sit next to someone, who wears headphones, when I clearly can hear what he is listening to :-(

I wouldn't want that to happen for someone else with me wearing the H5's.

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jonnyb replied on Fri, Jul 1 2016 2:53 PM

They appear to be very good in that regard. At 60% volume they do not leak very much sound at all.

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jonnyb:

They appear to be very good in that regard. At 60% volume they do not leak very much sound at all.

Thanks!

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Has anyone got an idea of the sound compared to the H3:s? I love my H3:s, so if I can come close to that sound quality with out getting all tangled up in cables it would be a must have. Sadly my local dealer is closed for construction/updates of the store for the summer, so no chance for me to test them out, so any insight would be greatly appreciated. 

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Just got mine today, pink it is. Smile

The package was very good, as always with B&O. Much as the same stuff as the H3.

Very fast recharge time with the magnet-usb charger. Just wish that they would have included a usb-wall socket charger.

The sound is surprisingly good. My old earset 3i doesn't come close. Very rich in detail yet surprisingly good in the bass. Best performance is around 50-70% of the volume. Very detailed for just playing lossy music.Big Smile

They fit very well in the ear and around your neck.

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jonnyb replied on Fri, Jul 1 2016 7:38 PM

I was surprised to get a notification in the Beoplay app telling me that a software update was already available. 

I've installed it already. I think it has lessened the treble on the default audio profile. 

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To the owners of these earphones, I wanted to ask you a couple of questions before buying them myself:

- about the magnetic close: does it only turn them off, or when you separate them again they turn on? I had other earphones that did that and it drove me crazy because they would turn on by themselves everytime the magnets separated in my pocket.

- Can you also turn them off with the remote button? or only by pressing them together?

- Do they stick out of the ear a lot? It's hard to tell from the press pics.

Thanks!

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Txenakis-

- once the h5 are pressed together, they're off and you need to press the start button again to turn them on. So they won't automatically turn on when incidentally put aside from each other.

- I think the only way of turning them on is to press the start button on the remote (the middle one).

- I have just practiced outside and they have remained in my ears quite nicely. I think once you have chosen the right earplug size, you're good to go. Big Smile

AND I've found the sound quite amazing for such little and light items like these. They sound very bass capable to me and very clear overall. Of course playing around with the Beoplay app's presets is fun, I might use them particularly for podcasts. After being back from a quick workout, I kept listening to them in my house haha !

P. S: they sounded a bit treble-ish at the shop but this has vanished completely since I'm back at home. Unless this is due to my house's modes (haha) I highly suspect some update- although I'm not sure I got notified at all.

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Thank you for all the info.

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LeMirage replied on Fri, Jul 1 2016 10:22 PM

Does it remember the sound profile selected with the app?

 

for example i select the wanted profile on my ipad and then later want to use the H5 with a non IOS/Android bluetooth sound source , does it still remeber the selected profile? Even after having been switched off and on again ? 

 

Thanks

 

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elephant replied on Sat, Jul 2 2016 12:15 PM
Great feedback Erik !

Thanks :)

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Interesting picture Leo Yes - thumbs up

Congrats on your purchase

These headphones sound great to me on paper with the exception of the "5 hours of playtime at NORMAL volumes".

My Beoplay A2 rates itself at about 10 hours but what isn't made clear is that it only last 5 hours at volumes people would normally use, then it drops to 50% volume for the last 5 hours. 

With these headphones I get the feeling they will only last about 3 hours per charge which is far too little.

 

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For me, these are for workouts and shirt commutes. Small enough to keep in my pockets all the time Big Smile

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Still 3 hours is pretty short and means they need to be charged every day or 2. Sometimes It won't even make it through a long day. Shame.

I'll see what Apple has to offer with the iPhone 7 in terms of wireless headphones before I jump on these.

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jk1002 replied on Sat, Jul 2 2016 9:40 PM

Yeah,

 

giving that recent ear plugs in similar size like the jaybirds run 8, beats run 6 and have rapid recharge am wondering what drove this. Only explanation for the weak battery i could see is weight of the units. For commute and workout 4 is probably fine, but the custom charger is annoying and if apple is really pushing no plug as the must have new iphone feature this would be something you might regret in a year.

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L1NO replied on Sat, Jul 2 2016 10:40 PM

Could there be heavy dsp at play which costs battery? Beoplay batterytime's are still poor-ish.

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jk1002 replied on Sat, Jul 2 2016 11:40 PM

No, it has a 50maH battery, jaybirds use 135. I am guessing size or weight limitations.

 

 

They could have also done something a bit more intelligent such as other companies have by making the carrying case have a battery in it that recharges them while on the go. 

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L1NO replied on Sun, Jul 3 2016 7:52 AM

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No, it has a 50maH battery, jaybirds use 135. I am guessing size or weight limitations.

 

 

The H5 has 2 x 50maH. There is a battery in each ear.

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L1NO replied on Sun, Jul 3 2016 1:17 PM

Jaybirds have 100Mah.

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benoit replied on Sun, Jul 3 2016 1:57 PM

jk1002:

Yeah,

 

giving that recent ear plugs in similar size like the jaybirds run 8, beats run 6 and have rapid recharge am wondering what drove this. Only explanation for the weak battery i could see is weight of the units. For commute and workout 4 is probably fine, but the custom charger is annoying and if apple is really pushing no plug as the must have new iphone feature this would be something you might regret in a year.

JK

The Jaybirds Freedom have only 4 hours as well! You have an extra 4 hours only with the charging clip that add weight and bulk... The X2 and the Beats wireless seems to be much bigger than the H5 (at least it's my feeling when looking at the photos when in place in ears...).

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L1NO replied on Sun, Jul 3 2016 4:04 PM

The jaybirds feature a micro-usb port and make them quite large. If the beoplay chargeblock is not too big a portable usb charger would get you trough the day.

This case would have been a better solution than a USB charger:

http://www.wired.com/2016/06/ones-earbuds-way-just-wireless-headphones/

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jonnyb replied on Mon, Jul 4 2016 9:06 AM

I bought some different Comply foam tips to go on my H5 at the weekend. They are the TS-200 comfort. They provide a much better seal in my ears and they add a little extra noise isolation. I was already pleased with the H5, but the tips take them to a 10/10.

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jonnyb replied on Mon, Jul 4 2016 9:10 AM

Oh, also...I just wore them on my first full commute. Started at 100% charged, and after a 90 minute journey they were still on 100%.

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TWG replied on Mon, Jul 4 2016 9:25 AM

How about body noise transmitting while having the band lying on your neck? Do you hear the sound of your steps or body etc. while running through the cable?

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jonnyb replied on Mon, Jul 4 2016 9:44 AM

The sound of the cable fabric rubbing against my collar can be heard, but I don't really move my head much when I'm walking so it's not a problem for me. The sound of my footsteps can also be heard but it's no worse than with other in-ear earphones that I've owned. 

 

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