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Beosound 5 App

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Razlaw Posted: Tue, Jul 24 2012 11:38 PM

Anybody have any experience with an iPad App called Creation 5? It is designed to provide control of the Beosound 5 with full cover art, US price is $49.99

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Just downloaded it!

Slightly unstable, but FABULOUS

Worth it!

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But...

Will need to raise my cover art rez to 1000x1000!
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Razlaw replied on Wed, Jul 25 2012 12:05 AM

This looks like it may be the App we have been waiting for.

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Razlaw replied on Wed, Jul 25 2012 12:50 AM
bsantini:

But...

Will need to raise my cover art rez to 1000x1000!

how do you do that?

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I use Bliss music tagger. You set rules globally, such as max and min cvr art rez. It will then automatically locate and replace the cvr art within your specs. Of course, every every album with get auto upgrade. Some will need attenting to manualky. But so does all music tagging.

Works great!
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Razlaw replied on Wed, Jul 25 2012 1:03 AM
Thanks! I will check it out. Will that help with cover art. That disappears when using the app?

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Im not experiencing disappearing art, just slow loading sometimes.
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Razlaw replied on Wed, Jul 25 2012 2:10 AM
I wonder why my art disappears. I like that the App turns the Beosound on and can adjust the volume. My other issue with it is the all tracks selection does not load with the tracks.

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Razlaw replied on Wed, Jul 25 2012 2:26 AM

This page has a link to a video of the app....

http://www.creation.com.es/apps/Creation5.php

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Raeuber replied on Wed, Jul 25 2012 8:16 AM
Does the App only work with Beomaster 5? I don't see a sense in Beosound 5 anymore, if the App is working well.

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Net radio?
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WOW!

I'm sure this app is the only product from this company I could ever afford!

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Razlaw replied on Wed, Jul 25 2012 12:27 PM
bsantini:

Net radio?

no

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BMGHB replied on Wed, Jul 25 2012 12:52 PM

Amazing app!

 

Why didnt B&O think of this?

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Razlaw replied on Wed, Jul 25 2012 1:08 PM

There is picture on the developer's web page of a similar interface but for entire home control, including B and O and the interface is displayed on the screen of a BV7.

The App for full home automation and B and O control is $140.00 and requires additional hardware.

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beojeff replied on Wed, Jul 25 2012 1:11 PM

This is EXACTLY what I've been waiting for! Interestingly, when I downloaded it just a few minutes ago the app was FREE. It doesn't seem to be a trial period app or lack the full features.

I'm noticing that the cover art still is lacking good definition. Still, the interface is exactly what I've been hoping for.

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Razlaw replied on Wed, Jul 25 2012 1:28 PM

Lucky you!  Free?!   I had to pay $50.00.

It appears wonderful but I am also having the cover art problems you mention of lacking good definition. Additionally most covers disappear completely from both the Beosound 5 and the app. 

Also, the all tracks selection does not load well, as if there is too much data.

I have not tried it yet but the instructions mention being able to select an album and have it play the entire album.

Turning the Beosound 5 on and adjusting volume from the app works well.

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Razlaw replied on Wed, Jul 25 2012 1:30 PM

I just checked the app download page on iTunes and it shows as free. There's $50 I wasted.

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beojeff replied on Wed, Jul 25 2012 1:31 PM

With this app, it's worth buying an entry-level iPad at just $399 to keep in a link room on a charger to use as a dedicated BeoSound 5 controller.

At version 1.0, I'm sure this will get even better with future versions. It might be nice to have the option to turn off the cover art slide show.

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beojeff replied on Wed, Jul 25 2012 1:43 PM

The BeoPlay A3 just got a whole lot more attractive. I'm now picturing an iPad in an A3 on my nightstand. What an ideal BeoSound 5 controller to have in a link room.

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Razlaw replied on Wed, Jul 25 2012 1:55 PM

I have had exactly the same thought about the A3.

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If it is free, I also lost $50.00.  But it is still worth it.

 

Wish list:

1. Ability to show full screen album art for album playing now...like BS5 does

2. Ability to shut off system from app.

I downloaded a 1000x1000 hi res art for one album to see how it would look , but have to wait for THAT album to scroll through in order to confirm improvement (see point #1)

 

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beojeff replied on Wed, Jul 25 2012 2:33 PM

I haven't been able to get mine to load beyond "C" in albums. Obviously, they still have some bugs to work out. Perhaps this is why it went from being $50 to free. 

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bud replied on Wed, Jul 25 2012 2:37 PM

I have tried to use it this morning but it can't locate my BeoSound/Master 5 at all....

 

PS. The app is only free for 48 hours.... You will then need to pay for it.

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Razlaw replied on Wed, Jul 25 2012 2:41 PM
Do you have your Beosound 5 set to music server on?

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maillotpa replied on Wed, Jul 25 2012 2:46 PM

HI everybody can you tell me if this application is available for Beosound 5 encore ? Thanks for your answers.  Pascal 

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Razlaw replied on Wed, Jul 25 2012 3:23 PM
I believe the information page for the app says it does not work with the Encore.

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bud replied on Wed, Jul 25 2012 4:05 PM

Yep... definately 'server on'...

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The free trial was/is meant for dealers to try it out.

 

I have absolutely no problem with all my albums loading, but then aagin I have really made sure my tags are ideal/correct and album art is both embedded and in the cvr folder (possible with Bliss Tagger).

Even my Love Never Dies 1000x 1000 hi res art does show beautifully on the Ipad.  Will be upping the rez specs for art starting now.

LUV IT!

 

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mjmedlo replied on Thu, Jul 26 2012 2:35 PM

I contemplated downloading last night. . 

Raz what did you find out about the whole home set up?

Does it work through/with MLGW and RadioRa2?

That looked very cool!

The app looks pretty good if it works without drop outs. .

what are you all using for a router?

 

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symmes replied on Thu, Jul 26 2012 3:07 PM

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I contemplated downloading last night.

Does it work through/with MLGW and RadioRa2?

That looked very cool!

what are you all using for a router?

I used it a bunch yesterday and liked it.  The download was free, so it sure can't hurt to try it.  It ignores the ML Gateway, as the "brain" appears to be similar to many of the available mobile apps that read DLNA servers (Twonky app does the same thing).  What makes it different is the nice interface, though it has a couple of minor quirks to work around; nothing significant.  It seems to run an album art "slideshow" in the background I don't care for, that I haven't had time to investigate.

We use a Cisco router subnet from an Airport Extreme and it works just fine. BTW, it didn't work well until I completely shut down the iPad (3) and restarted.

Then it was fine.  And now, after a good night's sleep, it has gone right back to work.

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mjmedlo replied on Thu, Jul 26 2012 3:30 PM

anyone using the whole home system?  the one that displays on the screen?

i think that would be rather interesting to check out

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mjmedlo replied on Thu, Jul 26 2012 3:30 PM

anyone using the whole home system?  the one that displays on the screen?

i think that would be rather interesting to check out

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mjmedlo replied on Thu, Jul 26 2012 3:30 PM

I will give it a go

anyone tried the whole home system?

that displays on the screen of the beovision?

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Razlaw replied on Thu, Jul 26 2012 5:12 PM
mjmedlo:

I contemplated downloading last night. .

Raz what did you find out about the whole home set up?

Does it work through/with MLGW and RadioRa2?

That looked very cool!

The app looks pretty good if it works without drop outs. .

what are you all using for a router?

I think the web page says it requires of Masterlink Gateway or another device that I had never heard of and did not understand what it was.

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Razlaw replied on Fri, Jul 27 2012 1:29 PM

I took another look at the web page. It mentions either a Masterlink Gateway or a MLPLNet Interface for the other App. What is a MLPLNet Interface?

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jhamers replied on Fri, Jul 27 2012 10:24 PM

I've bought it earlier today and tried to use it, hoping it would relieve some of the frustrations of the BS5/BM5.

It didn't completely, there are many many issues with this app:

  • It's using, as other apps do, the DLNA part of the BM5. It's easy enough to create playlists, but 50% off the time it would not skip automatically to the next song in the playlist, which kinda makes the app completely useless. As you have to activate the server part, the power safe mode is not working anymore
  • The app crashes constantly, especially when scrolling through lists (artists, albums,...). It seems to load a very small part and if you scroll to fast it cannot keep up and BOOM it's gone.
  • Other people mentioned this as well, but the album art that is shown on the beosound 5 is of poor quality, even if it's high quality if you play the same album 'normally'. If at some point the application crashes, the album art is not updated anymore with the current song playing (and at that point it also stops jumping to the next song in the list.
  • Otherwise it follows the B&O mentality perfectly, overcharge for limited functionality
Maybe they can fix some of the issues in an upgrade, but as long as B&O doesn't support iOS functionality natively, we will always have solution that hack their way through the DLNA interface.

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beolion replied on Sun, Jul 29 2012 8:51 PM

I just worked with the App also, and it miss features as mentioned above, i.e. I would like to use other search criterias as Album Artist (or cover), an option to quickly go from A to Z (index) and especially also Radio. But the are limitation with DNLA if you have a LOT of content, and if DNLA is used, we will not get Radion included either.

But its one of the more nice looking interfaces I have seen until now, really hope this developes.............or that B&O finally will come with an App.

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Razlaw replied on Sun, Jul 29 2012 11:21 PM
There is an alphabet dial at far right. Can quickly scroll through it and select desired letter such as Z. Unfortunately takes too long to load and frequently locks up before getting to end of alphabet.

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