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Sound Processing in BV7 verses BV10

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Razlaw Posted: Tue, Aug 16 2016 1:21 PM

I have a BV7-55 with BL7-4, BL20, and BL12-3. In another room I have a BV10-40 with BL1 and BL6000.

The BV7 has a an Oppo Bluray player connected as well as an Apple TV. I use it for watching movies.

I also have satellite boxes connected to both and watch live TV on both.

My question is for some reason when I watch live TV, the sound, or perhaps more accurately the surround sound, is much better with the BV10 and it's speakers than with the BV7-55 and it's speakers. I have checked the settings on the satellite boxes and it looks like everything is  set the same.

I have been trying to decide if the newer sound processor in the BV10 is the reason for the much better sound? And if so, would the even newer sound processor of the BV14, which I think looks beautiful, be even better and thus improve the sound from my BL20s and 12-3s if I replaced the BV7-55.

Thanks!

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BEOVOX141 replied on Tue, Aug 16 2016 1:32 PM

Hi

 

Start by checking wich format is being used by the TVs... Options/Sound/Sound system.

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'A much better sound' is a very personal matter!

Assuming all settings in the connected boxes and tv's are equal - maybe what you notice is the difference!

And you seem to like the sound from one setup more than what comes from the other.

If you really wanted to know, you would have to have to have a similar speaker setup with both - alternating.

And you would have to take account for the influences of the different rooms, where your setups are, too.

I am sure, that the sound from both setups is superb and very enjoyable - each in their way.

However, with the sound engine in the new BV's (including BV14 and Horizon) you would have a lot more possibilities to tweak the sound to fit your speakers, your respective room and your own preferences than with what you get from both the BV7 and the BV10 sound platform.

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Razlaw replied on Tue, Aug 16 2016 9:32 PM

Thanks. They both match. Nothing different between the two.

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Razlaw replied on Tue, Aug 16 2016 9:33 PM

BEOVOX141:

Hi

 

Start by checking wich format is being used by the TVs... Options/Sound/Sound system.

Sorry for duplicate post. Forgot to put quote I was responding to in post and can't edit message on Apple.

 

They both match. Each shows the same thing.

 

Thanks!

 

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Razlaw replied on Tue, Aug 16 2016 9:36 PM

Millemissen:

'A much better sound' is a very personal matter!

Assuming all settings in the connected boxes and tv's are equal - maybe what you notice is the difference!

And you seem to like the sound from one setup more than what comes from the other.

If you really wanted to know, you would have to have to have a similar speaker setup with both - alternating.

And you would have to take account for the influences of the different rooms, where your setups are, too.

I am sure, that the sound from both setups is superb and very enjoyable - each in their way.

However, with the sound engine in the new BV's (including BV14 and Horizon) you would have a lot more possibilities to tweak the sound to fit your speakers, your respective room and your own preferences than with what you get from both the BV7 and the BV10 sound platform.

MM

Thanks!  Makes me want a new BV14 even more than I already did.  I see that it has a microphone sound calibration option but I can't find anything about it in the BV14 user guide online. Is this a new feature or is it available on the BV 11 and/or Avant?  Any opinions as to how well it works?

 

 

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Razlaw:

Thanks! Makes me want a new BV14 even more than I already did. I see that it has a microphone sound calibration option but I can't find anything about it in the BV14 user guide online. Is this a new feature or is it available on the BV 11 and/or Avant? Any opinions as to how well it works?

It's available on the Avant but in all honesty it doesn't beat the manual one you do yourself.

When they set up my avant they took the microphone with them but used it. I then changed the settings later on as when the dealer came over he said they were out of whack. That's when I learned that the distance you set is the distance from your seating position. I could even increase the db levels of each speaker independently. It really is great.

On the avant I am surprised that the BL3s sound so much better and that is because with the Wireless Receiver 1 I can tweak each speakers db level so they can go much deeper and louder. Not that I am using my BL3s with this combo anymore as I have the BL18s now.

When I used the BL3s previously with the PlayMaker I could never tweak the settings so I thought the BL3s didn't sound any better than the BL4s - you couldn't even adjust the speaker settings on the BS Encore. But once I could change the settings in the Avant that's when I realized what people were banging on about in ref to the BL3s
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Razlaw replied on Wed, Aug 17 2016 1:13 PM

Thanks! .....(Sorry for the periods and extra words...apparently can not post a post that says merely Thanks as it is considered a duplicate)

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BEOVOX141 replied on Wed, Aug 17 2016 4:54 PM

Razlaw:

Thanks. They both match. Nothing different between the two.

I was kind of expecting that..

But exactly what is coming in and what is being sent out (format)? 

You have two VERY different scenarios, one has a center the other on doesn't! 

 

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Razlaw replied on Wed, Aug 17 2016 6:00 PM
5.1 in 5.0 out. No sub in either system.

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Razlaw replied on Wed, Aug 17 2016 6:26 PM
Both systems have a center. BV 10 speakers are center and BV7 has a BL7-4 as center.

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elephant replied on Thu, Aug 18 2016 6:20 AM
Razlaw:

Both systems have a center. BV 10 speakers are center and BV7 has a BL7-4 as center.

Big difference !

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None the less - Razlaw seems to like the overall sound from his BV10 better.

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Razlaw replied on Thu, Aug 18 2016 2:21 PM
To clarify, the best sound is from the BV7 when with a Bluray or Apple TV.

But when I watch Satellite TV, the sound quality diminishes greatly. It does not sound much like surround sound whereas the BV10 does sound like surround sound when watching Satellite TV.

I am sometimes startled, for example, by the sound of a helicopter flying behind and above me when watching tv on the BV10. I never have that happen when watching tv on the BV7.

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BEOVOX141 replied on Thu, Aug 18 2016 5:11 PM

Razlaw:
To clarify, the best sound is from the BV7 when with a Bluray or Apple TV.

As it should be!

Now we just need to figure out why sound from the dish isn't properly decoded! 

Start by telling what the options/sound/sound system says (picture ?). The input format / output format including speaker mode!

The BV 10 can only EMULATE a center speaker, whereas the BV 7 has a TRUE dedicated center, right there,- your BV 7 setup already is ahead! Smile

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Razlaw replied on Thu, Aug 18 2016 9:47 PM

Both TVs have the settings set the same. 

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Razlaw replied on Thu, Aug 18 2016 9:48 PM

And both satellite boxes have the settings set the same.

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