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BV14 and Beovision Horizon - any feedback?

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mr_anders_son
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New software update available, only minor performance upgrades, no NL availability. Maybe this update does improves the sound problems.

My Horizon does not show the sound problems, but it has not yet have the stability and operating speed my V1 has. Feels like there is till much work to be done. My three main requests are NL/Multiroom ability, beter and more stable reaction time for remote commands and normal opening and closing of the curtains. Even my 7 year old son asked if the certains could be fixed, he thoughts they were broken

New update today??

I cant see any!

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Sjengie replied on Tue, Feb 21 2017 9:11 AM

@bandoh nothing special I just like beautiful things and B&O are part of that experience.

I do not mind waiting for the updates but i do miss netflix.

meanwhile i have hidden my ATV4 in the back of the Horizon but that is only temporary i hope

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Fansastic replied on Tue, Feb 21 2017 9:16 PM
mr_anders_son:

New update today??

I cant see any!

Software version now: QM153E.0.3.0.112

Release date 2017-01-27

This morning TV updates automatically.

Hope this helpes

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New software released yesterday bunged up audio on my Horizon :(

When switching between inputs a couple of times, it will sound like a cassette tape running that is very slowly. Need to investigate if it's a specific sound mode that is messed up or what, but it's reeeally annoying.

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Fansastic:
mr_anders_son:

 

New update today??

 

I cant see any!

 

 

 

Software version now: QM153E.0.3.0.112

 

Release date 2017-01-27

 

This morning TV updates automatically.

Hope this helpes

That's the Week 5 update :-)

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There was indeed a new update yesterday, at least for the Horizon.

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BartS replied on Wed, Feb 22 2017 10:17 AM

Wat Kuyttendaele means that your Horizon downloaded the update that was released in week 5. Most owners have already updated to this version and it is not an in-between-update. The next one will be in week 10.

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dayoff2017 replied on Wed, Feb 22 2017 11:32 AM

New Update here on my Horizon 40 (replaced model because of pixel error (green)).

 

  • Neflix works very well now.
  • Kodi for playind media files from diskstation and PC works excellent (subs etc)
  • Sound is great.
  • Little buggy over all, but not too bad.

 

Missing:

 

  • voice recognition would be great

 

 

Love the rolling stand!

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andriani replied on Wed, Feb 22 2017 1:32 PM

Hello,

i am from France and I follow this post because my dealer wants to deal my beovision 755 against the new ng avant 75 in giving the difference 

i read that the android system is not mature ( a lot of tv philips Sony at their launch had a bad android os) : a lot of bugs 

i think android system is just for music streaming ( like Spotify Deezer...) ,Netflix if you have a good speed internet,eventually multimedia like Kodi or you tube , and in France myCANAL  

but is the TNT tv affected by these bugs ? For example is the tv stop or reload without doing anything ?

I read all the negative critics for the user do you advice me not to buy the NG avant ? Is it better to wait ... for ... what ? The future lg partnership will put the new tv in June 2017 or 2018?

thanks to read all of us and sorry for my English 

merci 

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Sandyb replied on Wed, Feb 22 2017 1:51 PM

The new TVs are still buggy, though from my experience they are getting better, especially the picture quality has improved some the first release.......i dont know the 7-55 that well, but it was supposed to have an excellent picture......the newer TVs have on paper not as good screens as the pre-Android versions (local dimming vs global dimming on the new ones).....that said, in real life its not clear that the new screens are any worse, the picture isn't as soft and subtle, but appear a little brighter, which some may well prefer in fact..........i am happy with my BV14-55 picture now, looks really good...........

go and try the new ones......if picture quality on old and new Avant's are both good enough, then i would go with the original 75 inch to get the original software platform.........otherwise wait for the OLED screens (should be excellent screen tech, though may face similar "new software" issues.....

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andriani replied on Wed, Feb 22 2017 3:44 PM

Thanks sandyb for your reply

as you say with any tv now with firmware ( android or similar:webos,Philips Sony or Samsung) we have a period of "doubt" because we have bugs , we have to wish that the firm ,here B&O , will " work" on it 

it is why I think the first thing is how is the picture ? You have beovision 14 ,my dealer said that the new beovision has the same platform as the NG avant et the same screen : you seem to be glad with yours.. I shall decide ,but my dealer now have only the NG avant .. so I have no choice with the original avant

with your beovision 14 do you often use android system ? In real use have you so much Bugg? How you find your sound ? 

I think waiting for the future (hypothetic) tv lg partner as you say may have other adventures!

thanks 

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dayoff2017:

New Update here on my Horizon 40 (replaced model because of pixel error (green)).

Neflix works very well now. Kodi for playind media files from diskstation and PC works excellent (subs etc) Sound is great. Little buggy over all, but not too bad.

Missing:

voice recognition would be great

Love the rolling stand!

I got a new sw update now to!

Lets see what improved!!

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Sandyb replied on Wed, Feb 22 2017 4:54 PM

make no mistake, its been a bit painful, my main issue was audio dropping out......the Android OS is the OS for the whole TV, there is no sidestepping it....so i do love the look of the BV14, and the picture quality is pretty good now (though i will always prefer my 12-65 plasma)......its my second screen, so i didn't wait for the OLEDs.......if it is your main screen, it might be worth waiting to see the OLED B&O's, though as i said remember that will be on a different OS again (webOS most likely), so some issues may occur, though i suspect they will be relatively small compared to the instabilty of Android TV OS.......sound is very good, though from what i understand the sound on original Avant's (2014-6) and the BV11 is slightly better - the speaker specs of the new TVs look a fraction less powerful, though my installer says the difference in noticeable, both good, but the older TVs better.........if you want an original pre-NG Avant, you should be able to find one.......

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andriani replied on Wed, Feb 22 2017 7:36 PM

Thanks sandyb

it s for my main screen ( replace beovision 7 55 full hd pretty picture and sound very with beolab 7.6) ... may be I have to wait oled in 55 or 65 there is no yet above this dimension I have friend who say that webos3 is stable ! But there is no idea if B&O launch these tv this summer or in 2018 ...I have search on net but I have not find any clue..

it seem that there is a new firmware on horizon (only?) which is more stable if I read the post before mine I hope it is a good new if some users can give us their conclusion 

i think about your advice 

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Sandyb replied on Wed, Feb 22 2017 7:47 PM

supposed to be an interim software recently, but i haven't seen anything for my BV14.....anyway, its been more stable recently definitely, though others have had problems.......as for the OLEDs, who knows, but from what i hear, the tv's are more or less ready.....but i wouldn't expect anything very soon.....

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andriani replied on Wed, Feb 22 2017 9:03 PM

That s a "little" problem we don't know when these future oled tv come ( may be with no much better firmware even it is webos3.5 ! )

i wonder myself if I have to wait because beovision 7 55 full hd have a very pretty picture ( it is full led local dimming zone 512 ) and today for 4K tv we have not much movie,in France no 4K provider on satellite and for Netflix in 4K you need fiber ..( not to much area have it .. my town is not deserve in fiber nowdays !!) so ... and "en plus " the beovision ( horizon,avant or 14) have not so much beautiful picture and instable firmware ...

you are right for a main screen if you are objective there is no need to change ...emotionally for a second screen why not ?

if the review by user show that firmware is more stable and mature i will see 

thanks

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Indeed... seems like there is a interim release between the "Week 5" and "Week 10" update...

Very curious what has changed.

Anyway... since forwarding the detailed sound issues I haven't heard back from BeoCare... In other cases there were very responsive. Not in the last case... Some serious sound bug fix?

OK.. Update installed.. Dated 2017-01-27... as someone else previous said. But... Wasn't the "Week 5" release dated 2017-01-28?

Can someone check their BV14/Horizon and check the date/software version without updating to today's release?

Karel.

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Fast check: sound / bass management bug still there even after yesterday's update.

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BartS replied on Thu, Feb 23 2017 7:57 AM

The last update is 2017-01-27, this was released on 2017-01-31 (the week 5 update). I checked my Horizon. It cannot find a newer update. Did your TV perhaps download the same update again???? Or did your dealer request an in-between-update for your BV that was also dated 2017-01-27?

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Bart, which software version is your TV running? Mine downloaded the update, and I have a suspicion that it may have downloaded a previous version of the software as bugs seems to have resurfaced.

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BartS replied on Thu, Feb 23 2017 8:12 AM

ThatGuyFromDenmark:

Bart, which software version is your TV running? Mine downloaded the update, and I have a suspicion that it may have downloaded a previous version of the software as bugs seems to have resurfaced.

The number is QM153E.0.3.0.112, dated 2017-1-27. This one is released 2017-1-31.

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This is getting confusing...

Fist software was the version when the BV14 was released.

Received an interim version in December on dealer's request

Then the "Week 5" release around first week of February

And yesterday another update which is dated 2017-1-27...

Still no release dating 2017-1-31 here...

 

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BartS replied on Thu, Feb 23 2017 8:44 AM

kuyttendaele:

This is getting confusing...

Fist software was the version when the BV14 was released.

Received an interim version in December on dealer's request

Then the "Week 5" release around first week of February

And yesterday another update which is dated 2017-1-27...

Still no release dating 2017-1-31 here...

 

The latest updated is dated 2017-1-27 (perhaps the closing date for the software programmers), but released for customers on 2017-1-31. So your BV was not able to download it before 2017-1-31. Hope this helps.

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BartS replied on Thu, Feb 23 2017 8:45 AM

By the way QM153E.0.3.0.112 is the latest update according to the B&O support site.

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QM153E.0.3.0.112 is also what I have.

I have to correct my post: Netflix is working only after pulling the plug ("cold start"). Annoying....

Anyone has a better trick?

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dayoff2017:

QM153E.0.3.0.112 is also what I have.

I have to correct my post: Netflix is working only after pulling the plug ("cold start"). Annoying....

Anyone has a better trick?

Netflix is not supported!

Mine works sometimes but with black subSadtitle

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Sandyb replied on Thu, Feb 23 2017 9:52 AM
Similar for me, works often but not always....it's not supposed to work in the first place, why we have this in between state, I don't know
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Fansastic replied on Thu, Feb 23 2017 10:52 AM
Netfix never works on mine

BV Harmony 65 / Eclipse 55 / BL 50 / 19 / 18 / BS 2 all brass

BV Horizon 48 / V1 40 / BL 17 / Beoplay S3 all black

V1 / BL 3 / BS Essence MKII / Beoplay A3 all white

BS Moment / BS 3000 / BS 3200 / BL 400 all silver

Headphones / bluetooth speakers / BLC NL-ML / BLGateway

I know…B&O virus has grown on me ! 

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Netflix works for me in 90% of the time..
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Sjengie replied on Thu, Feb 23 2017 12:03 PM

i do not even see the netflix app installed on my horizon

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Fansastic replied on Thu, Feb 23 2017 12:19 PM
Sjengie:

i do not even see the netflix app installed on my horizon

I downloaded the app through the google play store and as said the app does not work. It shows message that Netflix does not work with this device. Maybe there is a work around but I use my AppleTV for netflix and works fine.

BV Harmony 65 / Eclipse 55 / BL 50 / 19 / 18 / BS 2 all brass

BV Horizon 48 / V1 40 / BL 17 / Beoplay S3 all black

V1 / BL 3 / BS Essence MKII / Beoplay A3 all white

BS Moment / BS 3000 / BS 3200 / BL 400 all silver

Headphones / bluetooth speakers / BLC NL-ML / BLGateway

I know…B&O virus has grown on me ! 

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BeoGreg replied on Thu, Feb 23 2017 3:59 PM

I presume that the Beovision Avant NG as the same engine than BV14 and Horizon.

Do you think it works better or is it just that nobody bought it on this board ?

Just a thought if I ever get tempted (again) by an Avant (if the Oled is not what I expect - extra superior sound/excellent picture/7.500 € max on motorised stand 55").

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BartS replied on Thu, Feb 23 2017 4:10 PM

The engine is the same. I suggest to wait until most of the issues are solved.

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Ok. Software update released on 20/2 (Horizon) and 22/2 (BV14 and Avant NG) is a security patch.

Guess that's what you get when you base your system on Android!

Karel.
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Well, I'm glad to see updates, indicates that they are working on the platform.

Karel, the software updates you mention - do they still show the release date as January 27?

 

I reset my Horizon to factory settings, which seemed to speed things up a little, and it has been running fine for a couple of hours tonight. 

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Sandyb replied on Thu, Feb 23 2017 9:10 PM

i updated mine tonight......before the release date was showing as 18-Jan, now showing 27-Jan.....version number QM153E 0.3.0.112.....(BV-14)...not sur if that helps......

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Thanks Sandy, that clarifies a lot.

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@ThatGuyFromDenmark

Here's a screenshot after the update of this week.

Karel. 

 

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Has the week 20 / march update been rolled out?
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Week 10 even
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