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Hello,
Not sure I use the right technical words, so correct me please (I know absolutely nothing of B&O link means...)
--> Is there a solution to digitaly integrate a pair of BL5 (i.e. not with Powerlink cables but SPDIF or Toslink) and without having to plug them to a Beosound ?
For example : I'd like to start a song on a modern Beolink product (BS 1, 2, 35, etc.) and I want the BL5 to join so I can "send" the song from the BSx to them.
mjmedlo:Try a beosound essence. Will do just what you want
Thank you for your answer, but the BS Essence has no Digital out to feed the BL5...
mjmedlo:May have to find a second life beosound and an ml/nl converter
Even in this case, Powerlink cables will be compulsory and I'm not sure of what kind of signal (analog or digital) will be sent to the BL5.
This is where the difficulty lies, and that's why my question is :
"--> Is there a solution to digitaly integrate a pair of BL5 (i.e. not with Powerlink cables but SPDIF or Toslink) and without having to plug them to a Beosound ?"
My BL5s Are connected digitally to a chromecast audio. They sound amazing with this as a source. A coverter to convert chromecast's optical output to coax is needed. That can be a tiny inexpensive device. So basically now I have everything hidden behind one of my speakers.
kimchr:My BL5s are connected digitally to a chromecast audio.
This sounds just as GREAT
Plus, I just read that the Synology app for music (DS Audio) is compatible with Chromecast. This is also a great news !
--> I will be able to stream directly and digitaly from my NAS or from TuneIn/Deezer/Spotify/etc. to my BL5s.
Now the second part of my question:
As far as I understand, the new Beosounds have "Google cast" technology integrated. This isn't exactly Chromecast... And not all Google cast equipped devices are compatible with Chromecast
--> a (negative) answer is here http://archivedforum2.beoworld.org/forums/p/21247/186138.aspx#186138
Hope it's just a matter of time...
So here we are !
Add these very very very small components to your BL5, and... that's all
Chromecast audio
(Short) optical cable (2 different plugs)
Toslink to SPDIF coaxial converter
(Short) 75 Ohms coaxial cable
BeoNut since '75
- Flere
smile and enjoy the moment
elephant:I agree CB that is great news. Must be fantastic listening experience. However I am confused and Wikipedia is not helping I thought toslink / sprig were almost the same thing. So what is the role of the little black box ?
However I am confused and Wikipedia is not helping
I thought toslink / sprig were almost the same thing.
So what is the role of the little black box ?
To my understanding :
Toslink is an optical digital link.
SPDIF is an electrical (coaxial) digital link.
The little squared box convert the optical signal into an electrical signal.
Flere:And you will need the sync cable between the BL5's and a remote to switch them on and off and control the volume.
You're right, and I already used them like that with a B&O wheely and a Samsung LinkMate WAM270. The Chromecast way is more flexible.
CB:To my understanding : Toslink is an optical digital link. SPDIF is an electrical (coaxial) digital link. The little squared box convert the optical signal into an electrical signal.
elephant: Thanks ... this where Wikipedia confuses me ... S/PDIF (Sony/Philips Digital Interface Format) is a type of digital audio interconnect used in consumer audio equipment to output audio over reasonably short distances. The signal is transmitted over either a coaxial cable with RCA connectors or a fibre optic cable with TOSLINK connectors.
Thanks ... this where Wikipedia confuses me ...
S/PDIF (Sony/Philips Digital Interface Format) is a type of digital audio interconnect used in consumer audio equipment to output audio over reasonably short distances. The signal is transmitted over either a coaxial cable with RCA connectors or a fibre optic cable with TOSLINK connectors.
No confusion there.
Basicly the same, but along two different types of cables.
You can easily convert from one cable to another.
Chromecast -> optical cable -> converter -> coax cable -> BL5.
MM
There is a tv - and there is a BV
CB: Hello, Not sure I use the right technical words, so correct me please (I know absolutely nothing of B&O link means...) --> Is there a solution to digitaly integrate a pair of BL5 (i.e. not with Powerlink cables but SPDIF or Toslink) and without having to plug them to a Beosound ? For example : I'd like to start a song on a modern Beolink product (BS 1, 2, 35, etc.) and I want the BL5 to join so I can "send" the song from the BSx to them.
If you decide for using google cast, all you need is the Chromecast connected to the BL5's and one or more of the B&O devices with support for casting.
You will have to set these up using the Google Home app.
There you can group the receivers.
See my howto in one of the other threads about this.
Afterwards you can adress (send/stream sound to) these individually or as one or more groups.
You can only do this from cast enabled apps like Spotify, TuneIn etc....
P.S. you won't be able to 'join-in' like with the B&O NL-multiroom setup.
Millemissen:You will have to set these up using the Google Home app. There you can group the receivers. See my howto in one of the other threads about this. Afterwards you can adress (send/stream sound to) these individually or as one or more groups. You can only do this from cast enabled apps like Spotify, TuneIn etc.... P.S. you won't be able to 'join-in' like with the B&O NL-multiroom setup.
Thank you MM, that's how I'm using it now.
CB:(Short) optical cable (2 different plugs)
You're welcome Ed
And thank kimchr as Peter Pan too (Peter posted a picture with all of these last year)
View this post for the BL20s at http://archivedforum2.beoworld.org/forums/p/21176/174443.aspx#174443
And here for the BL5s http://www.hifi4all.dk/forum/uploads/PeterPan/2016-07-16_183636_PP.A.16.7.16.jpg
Enjoy HD music now !
Question: This synch cable between the BL5s, is that a regular powerlink cable or something else?
Thx
davelarue:Question: This synch cable between the BL5s, is that a regular powerlink cable or something else?
Have a look there --> http://archivedforum2.beoworld.org/forums/t/20629.aspx
CB: davelarue:Question: This synch cable between the BL5s, is that a regular powerlink cable or something else? Have a look there --> http://archivedforum2.beoworld.org/forums/t/20629.aspx
This thread didn't make me any wiser. They are suggesting to use analogue cables between the speakers?
Great if someone could point me to the correct cable to use between the speakers so 'everything' is digital.
davelarue:This thread didn't make me any wiser.
This thread may allow you to understand what this sync cable is for. This cable is only there to help the orders sent by the remote to be reached by both your BL5s.
NB: the very first BL5s do not have the sync function if I remember well...
davelarue:Great if someone could point me to the correct cable to use between the speakers so 'everything' is digital.
Steve can supply you this cable --> http://soundsheavenly.com/beolab-5-and-beolab-90/41--sync-beolab-5-.html?search_query=sync&results=10
In order to have a full digital connexion between (what ?) and your BL5s, you need :
Hope this helps
CB: davelarue:This thread didn't make me any wiser. This thread may allow you to understand what this sync cable is for. This cable is only there to help the orders sent by the remote to be reached by both your BL5s. NB: the very first BL5s do not have the sync function if I remember well... davelarue:Great if someone could point me to the correct cable to use between the speakers so 'everything' is digital. Steve can supply you this cable --> http://soundsheavenly.com/beolab-5-and-beolab-90/41--sync-beolab-5-.html?search_query=sync&results=10 In order to have a full digital connexion between (what ?) and your BL5s, you need : a S/PDIF (75 Ohms) coaxial cable from your device to the first BL5. a S/PDIF (75 Ohms) coaxial cable between the BL5s a sync cable between the BL5s (it works without this cable, but it's more comfortable to have one) a B&O remote able to change the mode of your BL5s (do be done once only), to start/stop them and to control the volume. a pair of BL5s Hope this helps
Hi,
Thanks for the detailed explanation. :-) I have a chromecast audio device with a 'toslink to coax converter', a beo4 remote, and two BL5 mk3. I found this setup is the best compromise between sound quality, setup-simplicity, and reliability. Agree?
Great! I will purchase 2 and 3 from soundsheavenly.
Best,David
davelarue:Agree?
Hi David
of course I agree, I have the same setup (with a wheely, not a Beo4)
And using a Chromecast Audio also allows you to create groups with Google Cast enabled Beosounds (like BS1/2, BS35)
Enjoy