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Flappo: Regarding the supposed Bauhaus design ( ugly nazi version of art deco ) V1 , it looks cheap and nasty , simple as that If David Lewis' designs are so passé why are they in the MMO ? I wonder if it's just a coincidence the monstrosity of a tv is named after the flying bomb from ww2 ? That crashed and burned too
Regarding the supposed Bauhaus design ( ugly nazi version of art deco ) V1 , it looks cheap and nasty , simple as that
If David Lewis' designs are so passé why are they in the MMO ?
I wonder if it's just a coincidence the monstrosity of a tv is named after the flying bomb from ww2 ?
That crashed and burned too
WELL...
At least the V1 is honest in it's design, and not some bling aluminium and glass, gauche and ostentatious display of willy waving wealth to show off and impress the Jones's next door at your next finger food soiree.
Fairs fair - B&O make different products for different aesthetic tastes, situations and budgets.
I saw a playmaker the other day in the plastic, and really liked it! Yet, others here reportedly hate the look of it..
You seem unduly fixated negatively on the design of the V1 IMHO - I'm sure if you were to own one though, you'd come to a very similar conclusion as most of the V1 owners here have; that it's a mighty fine product and a true B&O one at that, with a design aesthetic, which whilst different to both other B&O products and the mainstream LG/Samsung/Sony et al, is nonetheless very pleasing design re how it 'sits' in the home.
I have zero regrets about buying my V1 and am extremely happy with it - on both performance, and aesthetic grounds, as I'm sure are many other happy owners.
The other thing that does seem fairly clear though, is that without some new design and pricing direction, re the Beo Play line, B&O could well founder - and who wants to see fabulous design in the MOMA in NY, when you can't actually go out and buy it any more.
B&O design as a museum piece ONLY - not something I want to see - I want to see B&O grow and prosper, and I think the B&O Play products, as an adjunct and addition to the product portfolio, are right on the money in terms of design, value and performance - especially to the younger, just starting out and tech savvy professional.
Best Regards
John
I'm happy that they're getting their act together on the technical stuff inside - took them long enough - it's just that the new design direction leaves me a bit cold. I like the OTT ponsey classic b&o look .
All that smoked glass , aluminium and 'nice' plastics with lots of bmw level paint splashed all over . Yummy
Flappo:Regarding the supposed Bauhaus design ( ugly nazi version of art deco )
Nazi Germany shut down the Bauhaus in 1933, it was the exact opposite of their "ideas". Art déco has absolutely nothing to do with the Bauhaus except that it originated around the same time. I’m quite happy that there is no Art déco television available from B&O.
V1 , it looks cheap and nasty , simple as that
I’m not at all in favor of the approach that the metallic tube hinge is partially visible but I wouldn’t consider it as "nasty".
Well, he’s dead, so he cannot continue his work. His office might be able to, but maybe B&O decided to choose a less expensive design direction which might have lead to the compromises some of us do not like.
I cannot follow you. No B&O or Bauhaus designer was involved in the German rocket design in WW2.
Tell this the people in GB who suffered badly from them. What’s your point? You do not like the design and want to create some weird Nazi influence? Where have you been educated?
I don't have the time or inclination to argue with a pinhead like you and I if I did the mods would only delete it all .
I'm guessing since you're a euro*** , a lot of my humour gets lost in translation.
Twaddle off and watch some Monsieur Ploppy does a wee wee. I hear that stuff goes down well in Belgium.
A little bit of reading BEFORE writing sometimes prevents making a fool of oneself.
In English, especially for you : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bauhaus
I'm amazed you CAN read , then again it must come in handy for all those windows help books.
Back on topic - and enough of the eurodrip's and their pseudo intellectual pontification .
Anyone got a picture of the BV11 ? Maybe a mock up ??
I must say that I am disappointed in the way people smash down the design of the V1. It is just plain stupid. All people don't have the same feelings about certain designs.
I for one think the V1 is a very subtle and nice TV that packs more technology than you would expect. It is discreet and works very well. It doesn't "brag" or try to be too posh or draw any attention. Just perfect in my bedroom. You almost doesn't notice it is there until it is on and becomes a good home theatre system. I have had both good and bad impressions about its picture quality but after having some time to watch a few movies I love it. Very good picture engine and it sounds very well also. More bass than you would think from such a small cabinet.
I think the design is beautiful as do I like the other B&O TV´s also. They have a build, thought and feeling that makes them above everything else. If you see a V1 in IKEA I would be very surprised, but then again if this is the only argument you can say then you really don't know anything about design. Just frame a couple of hundred dollars instead if all you want is to brag(?).
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Flappo: I'm amazed you CAN read , then again it must come in handy for all those windows help books.
No, to be honest, it's from reading in apple help fora ...
Can we please stop arguing ? It's boring and not dignified in the least.
Plus you're not very good at it.
So has anyone got any more info on the BV11 ? I'm actually considering getting one this Xmas as my Sony is starting to play up. The V1 doesn't do anything for me and the game mode problem is a serious issue too.
I'd like a cheaper version of the BV7 tbh without the speaker at the bottom.
Perhaps one you could plug into an AV amp ?
Flappo:I don't have the time or inclination to argue with a pinhead like you and I if I did the mods would only delete it all .
So why did you leave your cave then?
Don’t be afraid that you’re not making laugh everybody, nothing got lost.
I do not enjoy watching people doing a "wee wee", our leisure activities might differ. There might be forums for that, please go there.
Typical mac user.
Go play with your shiny toys.
There is definitely no masterlink on Bvis 11.
On masterlink in general, Bang & Olufsen announced 2.5 - 3 years ago that it was discontinued and it wouldn't feature on any future products. Its replaced with networklink.
Some of this 'debate' has become pathetic as have one or two other threads over the past few days.
Please let's not go down this path on this forum.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_(Internet)
I agree, please stop.
I was the one that asked if we COULD stop in the first pace ( see above ).
I don't really need lectures in internet etiquette from anyone. Thx.
Flappo: I'm happy that they're getting their act together on the technical stuff inside - took them long enough - it's just that the new design direction leaves me a bit cold. I like the OTT ponsey classic b&o look . All that smoked glass , aluminium and 'nice' plastics with lots of bmw level paint splashed all over . Yummy
Certainly the V1 is right up there with other competing LED Edge Light LCD TV's; on picture performance grounds re the fundamental screen technology, only a fully back light LED/LCD TV, or a top plasma is likely to do it better.
To that, add the proprietary B&O picture processing engine, the state of the art surround sound module, the three ICE power amplifiers driving the speakers in a fully active array, able to do double duty as the centre channel speaker in a surround sound setup, and it's a formidable piece of technology, and outstanding value for money.
As far as the design, I can honestly say there's nothing that I've seen that B&O makes that I do not like in some way. Some pieces though, I like more than others. There are TV sets in the B&O portfolio that I prefer the look of to the V1, but that doesn't mean I don't like the look of the V1 - far from it. As I mentioned in another post, I often find myself sneaking admiring glances at it when it's not turned on - it's definitely going to hold its aesthetic design appeal for a very long time in my opinion, where the likes of a mainstream set often becomes 'ordinary' very quickly - certainly I would say that about my previous Sony TV.
Re the call for cutting out arguments I agree totally; I apologise if my attempt at tongue in cheek humour re the gauche & bling comment etc stirred up any ill feeling - it was meant in humour, but also to draw attention to the fact that, with respect, you do critique the V1 somewhat repetitively, and again with respect, I don't feel that beyond expressing an initial opinon, it is really necessary or helpful to continue to do so.
One, some of the owners of the V1 are likely to eventually take umbrage and react accordingly, and two, for new users to this forum, it's simply not a good look to be continually 'bagging' a product unnecessarily - in my humble opinion.
I'm not for one minute suggesting we should not criticise that which we do not like, but to go on about it, especially when people here own the model, is likely to cause argument and dissent - again in my humble opinion.
I'm all for free speech, but I'm also very much for treating others how I would like to be treated - with honesty, integrity, respect, tactful diplomacy, and offering any technical assistance or other help where i can to the many interesting and kind members of this forum.
B&O is a cut above the 'mainstream' as far as I'm concerned.
Let's make this forum something special; a place with good bonhomie, and camaraderie where we can also rise above the common argument, ego grandstanding and bellicose disrespect that so often permeates so many online forums.
With respect and best wishes
John...
Well said , John. I agree totally.
Thank you for bringing some much needed clarity and class to the board.
If I have offended anyone , I can only apologise. I blame Steve Ballmer ( & the vodka )
Flappo:I don't really need lectures in internet etiquette from anyone.
... "verifying" your own post ...
Flappo I obviously wouldn't have made that grammar remark were it not for your (seemingly) intentionally offensive comments earlier.
But whatever, I'm not here to moan, we all have difference tastes, just I thought we were all supposed to be enthusiasts here enjoying positive discussions. Apology accepted and thanks to John for bringing some integrity back to the thread!
Quite agree.
wtlc2zpx:why do you assume it won't have a ML connection?
You have to see the V1 in the flesh to pass judgement its a simply stunning piece of kit I like it on the high floor stand. The quality of finish can't be seen in pictures its a truly stunning Tv.
Cummon guys.
Beovision 11. Will i be tempted to trade my 10-46. Don't need Masterlink.
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