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Good evening to you alls,
I'm thinking to buy that magic PCB from bosscom who make the Beo4 kind of "Universal".
But in the last minute, I wanted to check for advices or experiences about it and i found that frightening thread from 2015:
Has anyone had any dealings with Bosscom?
I dind't manage to find anything more recent apart from one people saying "it works flawlessly".
Now, i would like to ask you guys if anyone has recent experience dealing with them and if they have since then improved in service and trust?
Thank you for any input.
M.
I bought an internet radio from them - at least I think it was boscom made - had IRC on the front - that is Beo4 compatible - 1. I could never get it to work properly with the ethernet - when it did it was through a minihub for some reason. 2. It would sometimes lose it's config settings when powered off - i.e. forget what commands it was responding too. 3. The cable at the back came loose which meant it couldn't be remote controlled directly from a Beomaster. Sound quality was not that great eiher.
More recently I bought the aux expander and that packed up a few months later - not that well built either,
To get internet radio I bought a Yamaha mini system and connected that to my lintronic box that I've had for years and that works flawlessly. I would go for a lintronic box instead as it will last years and you can reprogram it whenever you want or as you change equipment. About to buy my second to control a Linn system. Support from Lintronic and the forums is also exceptionally good.
Andrew: I bought an internet radio from them - at least I think it was boscom made - had IRC on the front - that is Beo4 compatible - 1. I could never get it to work properly with the ethernet - when it did it was through a minihub for some reason. 2. It would sometimes lose it's config settings when powered off - i.e. forget what commands it was responding too. 3. The cable at the back came loose which meant it couldn't be remote controlled directly from a Beomaster. Sound quality was not that great eiher.
Mine has 'International Receiver Company' on the front also but it was from OneRemote - has worked flawlessly for the last 6 years.
https://shop.oneremote.dk/en/
Yes, you can buy from Oneremote - As far as I remember they also have the Beo4 modifications.
Stefan
I think however that I agree with Andrew, and if I was starting from scratch I'd go with the Lintronic box for the flexibility it gives.
Hi Matador43,
When I see comments like these (copied from the Beoworld thread that you linked to in your post) from three professional and knowledgeable B&O enthusiasts who I highly respect, that tells me everything I need to know about a company:-
mayface: Hi, Well they owe me over £250 and im getting the same no answer treatment - so yes im happy to take action should you decide to move forward.
Hi,
Well they owe me over £250 and im getting the same no answer treatment - so yes im happy to take action should you decide to move forward.
9 LEE: In my own business dealings with Bosscom I found them possibly one of the worst companies I've ever had the misfortune to deal with. Aggressive, disorganised, untrustworthy and devious in my experience. I managed to escape - but they tried hitting me with a £15,000 bill which was pulled completely out of thin air when they knew I'd be leaving them as a customer. I've never had a company or business do that to me before, or since. I was stunned. I took stock and worked out I owed them around £380. I would never, ever deal with them again as long as I'm in the B&O business. A shame as their products weren't that bad. STB Brackets took them to court, and won by the way. I'm not sure on the details though - I think they copied one or some of their designs? Lee
In my own business dealings with Bosscom I found them possibly one of the worst companies I've ever had the misfortune to deal with. Aggressive, disorganised, untrustworthy and devious in my experience. I managed to escape - but they tried hitting me with a £15,000 bill which was pulled completely out of thin air when they knew I'd be leaving them as a customer. I've never had a company or business do that to me before, or since. I was stunned. I took stock and worked out I owed them around £380.
I would never, ever deal with them again as long as I'm in the B&O business. A shame as their products weren't that bad.
STB Brackets took them to court, and won by the way. I'm not sure on the details though - I think they copied one or some of their designs?
Lee
Peter: I am surprised B&O do not act as behaviour like this can only damage the brand. I realise they are an independent company but are clearly trading on the B&O cachet.
I am surprised B&O do not act as behaviour like this can only damage the brand. I realise they are an independent company but are clearly trading on the B&O cachet.
Steve.
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Thank you all for your answers,
The PCB board for Beo4 seems to be a trustable item. My doubts are more on the quality of the trade with Bosscom.
I looked at the lintronic solution but it's more expensive (even if more flexible - all controls vs only 2) and more boxes and wires and settings… Not fond of it.
I'll get in touch with OneRemote but i dont clearly understand. Are they resellers from the same board engineered by Bosscom? Because their pdf and illustrations look like very close not to say the same.
@ Steve… Yes, Totally agree. that thread frozen me in the process of buying. BUT, as i need the board and last message was 2 years ago, i was hoping for someone telling me they do some cleaning in their process and all was good nowadays… Sadly, nobody until now :-).
I'll try to reach oneremote.
Any other advice welcome…
Until then, all the best.
I have bought the Beo4 PCBs from OneRemote in the past and I have been happy with their products, service and delivery. My understanding is that OneRemote are the manufacturers of their own products and that Bosscom are resellers for OneRemote products. I would recommend buying from OneRemote if you have the choice.
Kind regards, Steve.
Thank you Steve, Just send them an email to clarify if their PCB control "Brand" TV AND Apple Mac Computer, which i can't clearly get from my understanding of english language. But if it is as expected, control for both devices, it will make it cheaper (shipping included) than the bosscom one.Give credit to your understanding that One remote is the manufacturer and Bosscom a reseller.
I'll keep you updated.
Nice evening to all of you.
Thanks Matador43,
If it is of interest, I also have an experimental USB device in a small case (sent to me by a friend in Switzerland who developed it) that allows a Beo4 or Beolink 1000 to control a PC directly, giving mouse movement/clicks and the ability to control iTunes, switch between open tabs, etc. This plugs into the PC via a USB port, so there is no need to modify the Beo4.
I used this at home for a year or so, but it is currently spare. If this is of interest, please send me a PM or email me directly for details.
Alternatively, I used the OneRemote PCB add-on for Beo4 previously, so I can vouch for this option. This works well and only 4 wires need to be soldered inside the Beo4.
Steve at Sounds Heavenly:If it is of interest, I also have an experimental USB device in a small case (sent to me by a friend in Switzerland who developed it) that allows a Beo4 or Beolink 1000 to control a PC directly, giving mouse movement/clicks and the ability to control iTunes, switch between open tabs, etc. This plugs into the PC via a USB port, so there is no need to modify the Beo4.
If you have a MAC with an IR port (or not), there's an app called "Remote Buddy" which allows the same thing, all one has to do is to have the PUC mapped to Apple TV, and the source would be a Mac connected to the HDMI port of a Beovision. The BEo4 can be set to control a bevy of functions, including mouse pointer.
(I do not work for the company, but I have used the SW and it works perfectly).
Steve at Sounds Heavenly: Hi Matador43, I have bought the Beo4 PCBs from OneRemote in the past and I have been happy with their products, service and delivery. My understanding is that OneRemote are the manufacturers of their own products and that Bosscom are resellers for OneRemote products. I would recommend buying from OneRemote if you have the choice. Kind regards, Steve.
I can only second that!
By the way, they have some new and interesting products:
MM
There is a tv - and there is a BV
Good morning guys,
Thank you all for your helpful advices. I've emailed Oneremote and they answered me right in the hour. I think I'll go with them as it suit my needs to control the Ouverture and both the Apple device and the S***** TV I manage to make up as a "Bing & Eliafsenn" Set :-)
Anyway thanks for bringing my attention to One remote.
I'll post as soon as the pcb will be up and running.
Have a good day
Good decision. I have just been looking at their site: I didn't realise that their Beo4 modification will allow you to control existing B&O, plus (type specific) non-B&O TV, plus Apple TV. A great bit of kit (if it works well) and it's actually very good value.
Are you modifying a normal Beo4 or a Beo4 NAVI? (I see that the mod works for both). I will be very interested to hear how you get on and how well it works.
EDIT: Although from their user manuals I can't work out if (when controlling the ATV) the Beo4 NAVI 'joystick' will replicate the touchpad of the ATV4 remote - anyone know?
I own a beo4 MK2 (DVD) in good condition and i plan to buy a second hand Beo4 MK1 (AV) to install the board as I dont want to ruin the original remote if my soldering skill are less than i presume!
I've soldered a few of these, so if you need any help or advice, please drop me a line!
Hello Matador
Try to look at this website :
http://shop.oneremote.dk/
I have bought a PCB from this webshop to my B&O4 remote, and it works perfectly.
You can also look at the website in english, and see / download the manuals as well.
Kindly Regards from Denmark
Lasse
matador43: I own a beo4 MK2 (DVD) in good condition and i plan to buy a second hand Beo4 MK1 (AV) to install the board as I dont want to ruin the original remote if my soldering skill are less than i presume!
It could be worth double-checking with OneRemote that their PCBs work on these earlier versions of Beo4.
lassfi: Hello Matador Try to look at this website : http://shop.oneremote.dk/ I have bought a PCB from this webshop to my B&O4 remote, and it works perfectly. You can also look at the website in english, and see / download the manuals as well. Kindly Regards from Denmark Lasse
HI Lasse,
Welcome to the forum ... you need to read Page 1 of this thread to get the full background to Matador's question!
The answer i received by mail stated:
"It can be installed in any Beo4, also the new Navi version."
So I assume than it will work. I also think, but i may be wrong, the differences between MK1 and MK2 are minor and just about labelling the keys (?).
@ Steve: thank you, i'll keep your offer in mind. I can't find an installation guide on Oneremote website but i do believe it will come along the PCB order or at least i can use the one from Bosscom. You'll hear from me if it isn't the case.
As always, I'll keep you in touch.
matador43: the differences between MK1 and MK2 are minor and just about labelling the keys (?).
the differences between MK1 and MK2 are minor and just about labelling the keys (?).
Not quite - see the photo (click on it for better resolution): SAT is indeed just relabelled as DTV on newer versions (with the same IR code), but the Mk1 will have AV instead of DVD (different IR code). If you don't need the DVD function (or can avoid using it) then I would think that the AV version is fine.
(EDIT: You can of course add the SHIFT function to the LIST menu, whereupon SHIFT CD will give DVD)
(Second EDIT (and I have got this wrong before!): On the Mk1 'AV' Beo4, you select DVD by adding CDV (which has the same IR codes) to the LIST function. Again, this thread refers: http://archivedforum2.beoworld.org/forums/p/4776/43259.aspx#43259 Sorry!)
Nice collection!
Ok, so as far as i understand from the manuals:
You can call the Apple device by pressing DTV or SAT which is fine for MK1 and MK2, so all good to me.It makes the TV shift to HDMI2 (the DVI one) and the remote to send Apple IR codes.
Pressing the TV key, will power up the TV set and shift the remote to (non B&O, Samsung in my case) TV IR codes.
But this bring a question to me : how do you activate the HDMI 1 (ARC) input? The manual stand that source selection is made by means of the V.MEM key. Key that none of MK1 or MK2 have.
So if V.MEM is a relabeled V.TAPE key, as for the SAT/DTV one it should be fine. But if its a different code like for the AV/DVD, that could be an issue.
V.MEM is exactly the same as V.TAPE - same IR codes. No worries
Oh and by the way, I emailed OneRemote to ask about the Beo4 NAVI 'joystick' and they said it will control the AppleTV4 without problems. I may well buy one of their PCBs if I decide on a non-B&O TV. I am moving back to UK later this year, hence will decide after I have moved.
I just did too about the V.MEM key so they should have a lot of emails today !
Good news about that V.MEM key. just need to order now !