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chucky Posted: Wed, Jan 31 2018 10:05 PM
Hi,

Finally starting on my big project installing a beolink gateway.

I want to control

- lights, lutron gfx 3104 if still possible otherwise use Hue, but for some lights I use mirror bulbs so Lutron would be better.

- Sky lights Velux cfp electric

- blinds velux

- Beovision 7-40 Beosound 3000

- Beovision 6 x 2 and an beovision 8

- Beolink passive Beovox 1 and ml MCL converter for Beovox 3000

- 3 active kits 1636 or 2 (see below) and the ML\NL converter a lot of bl speakers all wired.

- trying to get Alexa fully integrated

- cameras as option

It will be installed in a few weeks but want to be sure infrastructure is ok. I have discovered the first flaw, 1 active kit is to old.

So I can get an active kit, use the ML/ NL converter and a delay box or the Core.

Because the kitchen is in the same room as the living I play both rooms together, not always.

I currently have only ML products but this will change this year.

I want to make sure Alexa can be played over the speakers in at least the kitchen.

Thanks for the answers on the linkroom.Big Smile

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beojeff replied on Wed, Jan 31 2018 10:45 PM

Good luck on your fun project! You'll love what the BLGW can do.

You should be able to update your Active unit through a B&O service technician.

I think you'll find that you'll want to use a combination of both Lutron and Hue lighting. The BLGW makes it seamless to bridge all of these together.

You need to know that in order to integrate Alexa voice control, you'll have to use IFTTT and you'll have to buy an annual subscription of about $100 through Khimo. Only macros that you've created can be triggered by Alexa.

As for playing Alexa music through your B&O speakers, you'll be terribly disappointed. The quality of music from Alexa's line-out or BT is atrocious. This isn't B&O's fault. It's Amazon's fault.

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chucky replied on Thu, Feb 1 2018 5:13 AM
I have noticed the sound quality, that is why I was looking at the playmakers as DAC. Will this not help or am I getting diappointed? I thought I just had a lousy cableBig Smile

The active kit is so old, I think it is a hardware issue, they need to solder a chip, so not just flashing to update. A used one will than be probably be better and cheaper.

I read over the anual subscription of Khimo, it is a expensive but worth it?

Thanks!

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beolion replied on Thu, Feb 1 2018 10:07 AM
I have a number of VELUX integral windows but never really figured out if they can be controlled from 3rd party like the BLGW.

Looking forward to hear you experience.

Good luck.
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beojeff replied on Thu, Feb 1 2018 3:02 PM

chucky:
I have noticed the sound quality, that is why I was looking at the playmakers as DAC. Will this not help or am I getting diappointed? I thought I just had a lousy cableBig Smile

 

 

The active kit is so old, I think it is a hardware issue, they need to solder a chip, so not just flashing to update. A used one will than be probably be better and cheaper.

 

 

I read over the anual subscription of Khimo, it is a expensive but worth it?

 

 

Thanks!

 

 

Since you asked, I'll not restrain myself and I'll rant a bit. Once you get the Khimo working, the IFTTT works fine. I don't see much of a lag in the responsiveness. However, I really would prefer to have a direct integration between the BLGW and Alexa. I've never felt entirely comfortable with the security of IFTTT. It's something that I would never integrate my home security system / door locks with.

Khimo argues that you also get remote access and control of your BLGW with their service. However, I've never used it.

Now I'm really going to rant: Khimo's customer support is amateurish at best. The setup process to get an account is overly cumbersome and could be simpler. The annual renewal also could be better implemented. On my last renewal, my Paypal account was TRIPLE BILLED! It took a bit of time to get that all sorted. Once you have the account or have renewed the account, you're fine....for the next 12 months.

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chucky replied on Thu, Feb 1 2018 10:17 PM
Hmmm your a rich man if the can deduct 3 times the amountBig Smile

Setup will be a pain as I am in the Netherlands, when I tried to activate Alexa I had to make a new Amazon adress in the USA. A refund through Pay Pal shouldn’t take so long though , it is obvious that you can only pay for one subscription or do you have multiple gateways?

Why would you need multiple gateways?

I do like the IFTTT principle, I want to try it for at least a year to see if and how it works.

After plastering my garage I put up Hue lights and a beolab 7-2 on an acive kit and setup Alexa. So cool to turn on spotfy and volume and lights on just voiceCool

I cannot wait untill it is up and running

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beojeff replied on Fri, Feb 2 2018 1:00 AM

chucky:
Hmmm your a rich man if the can deduct 3 times the amountBig Smile

 

 

Setup will be a pain as I am in the Netherlands, when I tried to activate Alexa I had to make a new Amazon adress in the USA. A refund through Pay Pal shouldn’t take so long though , it is obvious that you can only pay for one subscription or do you have multiple gateways?

 

 

Why would you need multiple gateways?

 

 

I do like the IFTTT principle, I want to try it for at least a year to see if and how it works.

 

 

After plastering my garage I put up Hue lights and a beolab 7-2 on an acive kit and setup Alexa. So cool to turn on spotfy and volume and lights on just voiceCool

 

 

I cannot wait untill it is up and running

 

I just have one BLGW. Yes, they deducted 3x from my PayPal account. As I said, the customer support is horrible. They have no clue how to run a business.

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chucky replied on Sat, Feb 10 2018 10:08 AM
Yup,

I now have 2 accounts at Khimo. Paid through Pay pall, only once I hopeIndifferent.

The gateway hangs and I can use the app. They will return in a few weeks for Lutron and Tahoma box for my skylights. Also my camera’s need to come in.

Now I am thinking of a touchpanel to use with my gateway.

I need the B&O look and feel, any suggestions?

I would also need a small pc, thinking of a mini mac as NAS but not shure how to integrate it yet. That is why I have hired someone for support.

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frog replied on Sat, Feb 10 2018 10:17 AM

I have direct control of my B&O kit using Alexa through MLGW by using domoticz, though you can use HA bridge, which mimics Hue lights, so your BLGW should be able to connect that way. Haven’t tried that route myself.

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chucky replied on Sat, Feb 10 2018 10:30 AM

You lost me at domoticz, looked at it before, but I am not technical, I am just somebody with an extensive need for comfortStick out tongue

 

I cannot even get a NL/ML converter to set up as beolink active. I can wire anything but there it ends. We all have are limitations, but mine kick in a lot sooner I have noticed. That is why I need expensive boxes like the Tahoma, easy setup, plug and pray.

 

 

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chucky replied on Sun, Feb 11 2018 4:56 PM

Found a sollution, look at this, fully support by B&O and it is Somfy a really good brand.

Io homecontron

http://beointegration.com/uploaded/Velux_io_homecontrol_integration.pdf

I will be trying to get it running in afew weeks.

Chucky

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chucky replied on Wed, Feb 14 2018 7:33 PM
Got it working with ifttt, not yet in the gateway. I need a sw update from the dealer for the gateway. Really nice ‘alexa trigger skylight 50’ and it opens 50%. The Somfy Tahoma box is very good, app is’nt.

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Griebel replied on Sat, Mar 24 2018 6:16 PM

Hi,

Where can I find the io-homecontrol Gateway Configuration Tool 1.0.2?

Thanks

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chucky replied on Tue, Mar 27 2018 4:40 PM

Tools advanced download external driver.

 

you need a KLF 200, the Tahoma doesn”nt work with the gateway. Still haven”t got it working just ordered it.

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Griebel replied on Wed, Mar 28 2018 8:18 AM
Thanks.

Please keep us posted on how things go with your installation.
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chucky replied on Wed, Apr 11 2018 6:45 PM
I can finaly confirm that the KLF 200 is supported and works with my skylights. I would advise anyone who wants to walk this route to get a KLR 200 remote with it for programming. Please read the instructions after downloading the software in the gateway from B&O. VELUX really sucks, no support what so ever, I have googled everywhere just to find the right port and standard ip from Velux. Even forcing it in fixed ip I could not force the port.

Next route blinds...
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chucky replied on Thu, Apr 12 2018 8:55 PM

OK Update

I have purchased and shifted.

Kitchen essence 2 + Essence Remote + Join Eye + Alexa on Line in

Bathroom Passive ML + Beovox 1 + Eye

Childsroom Active ML + Beolab 4

Childsroom BV 8-26 ML + Beolab 6000

Livingroom BV 7-40 ML + Beolab 9*4 + Belab 3

Masterbedroom BV6-26 ML + ML/MCL + Beovox 3000

Garage NL/ML Converter + Linkeye + Beolab 7-2

Garage Beosound Core as Audiomaster

Velux KLF 200 + Velux Skylights in some rooms working

Philips Hue working

  • Lutron GRX 3104 * 2 Not working figuring out what interface and if I a GRX-CI-NWK-E is the right interface and if it will work with the gateway? (I purchased the Tahoma box and now it is lying around,Embarrassed 
  • Question now is how can I integrate some additional Beosound Cores in this setup with EASY acces. I am really disappointed that with ML you could easily with a setup Beosound + BV setup use the local sources. If I now Integrate a core in a Linkroom I need a ML/NL  converter + core or I need an almando switch. 

I would really like to view first te pro's and cons of both solutions. I will not change any Beovisions in the near future the will be ML based. (I still have 1 BV6 in the garage with HDMI and the other one is also HDMI and a like a small screen in Link rooms) 

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alex_112 replied on Tue, Dec 11 2018 10:01 AM

Great updates @chucky!

 

How did you go about solving BLGW -> KLF 200 ? I just bought a KLF 200 but BLGW seems to think KLF200 is down using ethernet and tcp port 51200 closes after a few minutes. 

 

Regards

  Alex

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chucky replied on Tue, Dec 11 2018 8:34 PM
Settings for me are the same. Did you log on the ip of Velux and made scenes?

You can check them through a web browser which you need to log on. After that you load the scenes like hue.

Everything is set through a fixed IP in my router...
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