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Never put an MCP on a Beogram! The lid will bow and with 4 D cells it won't take long time.
Are those all 6500, 6500 and 7000?
I've never seen a Beogram with a straight topplate and believe me, I have/had a lot of these/those. In my opinion this was never a good construction designed by B&O. Other thing, no batteries inside and the MCP rests on the rear part of the lid. But I appreciate your advise
Yes, all 6500 and the black one is 7000. But there's more......
Brengen & Ophalen
Just an idea I have wondering in my head, what if I glue small aluprofile or similar inside lid in back edge? Will it be enough to keep it straight?
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Leslie: I've never seen a Beogram with a straight topplate and believe me, I have/had a lot of these/those. In my opinion this was never a good construction designed by B&O. Other thing, no batteries inside and the MCP rests on the rear part of the lid. But I appreciate your advise Yes, all 6500 and the black one is 7000. But there's more......
They definately started out straight. I had a BG6500 that had barely been used and kept in its packaging for many years and it was straight. Maybe the perspex should have been thicker and yes they are a inviting surface for people to put remote controls on.
Looks great "Beaker". Maybe the styrofoam keeps the lid in place. What happens if you remove it?
Got this beauty real cheap! :-) Is there anything I should know about connecting the speakers or is the amp just not working...?
Wouter
Sunday morning, Mexico time, I woke up a little late, as always I got the coffee brewing, put on some nice morning music on the BG, turned on the computer, got the first cup of coffee, and opened my mail.
Saw 2 mails from Martin (Dillen), thought he had found something interesting or maybe a kit offer for my BM 4000 output stages, like he gave me for free and for testing for my BM 4400, opened the first mail, started reading, just skimming through, read it one more time, unbelievable, read it one more time, it got fast me awake, had to run around a little, opened the second mail, pics, now my heartbeat was at 130. I didnt notice that the music stopped. Here one of the pics.
Martin, in his mail, asked me if there were any items like this in Mexico, I gave it a thought, I dont think there is any on this whole continent North or South.
He the continued, I give it to you if you want it, you just have to pick it up at my home. I now started thinking about how to do that, but that was just stupid, of course I will find a way to that. Furthermore he wrote that he would provide the 2 missing buttons
I wrote a mail to Martin, saying thank you I will love to have it, but why do you give it away. I was cleaning out in my dungeon he told me, has to make space, there is just too much in there, and you was the first person I thought of, I know you will take good care of it and restore it to as near as original as possible. This is just amazing, it fits exactly into my collection, and it is a tube amp, and one of the first stereo receiver made by B&O.
What just dont get into my head, is why he gives it away. I only know Martin from the forum, and from some small buys I did from him. I do consider Martin as a friend, as far as you can be friends when you dont know each other i person.. But Martin, Thank you again, and dont hesitate if I ever can do something for you. And I am honored to be the one you choose. Thank you.
And yes, it is a Master De Luxe Present Stereo 608
Collecting Vintage B&O is not a hobby, its a lifestyle.
Søren Mexico:He the continued, I give it to you if you want it, you just have to pick it up at my home.
I presume you have already booked the flights?
Well done both of you!
--mika
Wouter, Quite often the speaker selection switches give trouble on the BM8000. Does it work via headphones?
Søren Mexico: Wow! The first thing that occors in my head is Wow!
Martin is a great rescourse for us all but this is really big and I Think I can guess why you were choosen, Søren. Martin knows that this item will be taken care of!
Congratulations!
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Congrats! That´s very generous and kind of him.
//Bo.A long list...
New plate for Beolink 7000
Martin: very cool.
Soren: congratulations.
Leslie:I've never seen a Beogram with a straight topplate and believe me, I have/had a lot of these/those.
No trick photography here - they really do exist.
You're right, yesterday I got my 3rd white BG6500 and this one is straight (no trick and no stick underneath the lid)
My latest addi(c)tion today? Floorstand Beomaster Beosystem 7000. Cleaning and polishing it tomorrow and when it's finished I'll put my black 7000 system on it. Will post pictures when ready (tomorrow)
Your collection is so impressive Leslie, I do love looking at your photos!
Ben
Great, I've got plenty more pics to show Ben but I have to take them fast since lots of my stuff is in a selling process. Mistress is complaining (for many years already)
What are you watching now
I only have a pair of fancy watches, but these I would put in the lifestyle watch thread, my latest addi(c)tion is this one, Beomaster 3300, I was looking for a BG 4002 0r 4004, but ran into the BM 3300, put a bid on it and got it. I suppose that I will have to get a BG 3300 as well then.
THAT VIRUS IS IMPOSSIBLE TO FIGHT.
Søren Mexico: THAT VIRUS IS IMPOSSIBLE TO FIGHT.
I agree completely! Same here...
but !
Vintage Bang & Olufsen
Slightly off the cuff but this man started my whole love affair with B&O.....
we tend to forget there is more to design than designing.
It depends on your inner control to say no or not now.
Friedmett: It depends on your inner control to say no or not now.
Friedmett: My internal control is eliminated by the Beovirus, the only one who knows to control it just a little is the FS, and even she comes up short at times.
I dont like the gray look of the BM 3300, but as I have a TX2 also gray, I am considering to convert it to WHITE, I am sure you and Evan will like that.
Its a PIB, surfing you get exited, bid low, and get it, I already have too much here and dont know where to place it, not to speak of refurbishing it all, somehow I have to find a way to control the virus, or starting giving away items.
Søren Mexico: Friedmett: It depends on your inner control to say no or not now. Friedmett: My internal control is eliminated by the Beovirus, the only one who knows to control it just a little is the FS, and even she comes up short at times. I dont like the gray look of the BM 3300, but as I have a TX2 also gray, I am considering to convert it to WHITE, I am sure you and Evan will like that. Its a PIB, surfing you get exited, bid low, and get it, I already have too much here and dont know where to place it, not to speak of refurbishing it all, somehow I have to find a way to control the virus, or starting giving away items.
Soren: I no longer use my Beocord 3300. Want it?
Rich:Soren: I no longer use my Beocord 3300. Want it?
Rich: give me the weekend to think about it, I will probably give away the BM 3300, and the TX2 to my sister in love:
My to do list: BM 4000 left channel, BM 901 total output stages, BC 5000 (yours), BC 2000 RTR, BG 1000, BM 1000, Present de Luxe 608, BG RX, BM 2400 remote function (caps in IR receiver).
Find a way to hide 350 Cds, but easy to get at. Find location for 7 vintage sets, get the FS to understand that we really need B&O everywhere. Must do as you did, 2 sets in the garage.
Finish my B&O Bar.
Restore my Jukebox, maybe build in an RX in it.
My 3300 components collect dust. Too bad because I actually think the receiver was one of the better sounding flats
Ricardo: My 3300 components collect dust. Too bad because I actually think the receiver was one of the better sounding flats
Yeah, my Beocord 3300 is sitting in a bag under my 2400 system in the garage. I already have an 8004 as a spare (probably to be paired with a Beocenter 3500), so the 3300 is the odd one out. I don't see ever collecting the rest of the 3300 system, so there seems to be no reason to keep it. I was going to put it on Ebay and/or Craigslist one of these days.
So many cassette decks, so little space.
nice Beovox 3000 wall panel speakers, nothing special...
but on the other side:
- red label!
Oops!
There is a tv - and there is a BV
The BV 3000 should be paired with this nice BC9000...
I downloaded the user manual for Beovox 3000 and there is no information about how high they should be mounted on the wall.I do not have many place on the wall and they should hang only 20-30 cm left and right from my BV8.Any experience with those BV3000 (how high and how far from other devices should they be mounted to get the best sound from them...)?Thanks in advance...Theomaster
@the_o_master
Very interesting! I have a BeoLab 3000 with a red label, but without the amplifier:
And then I have my BeoMaster 6001, BeoVision AV9000, BeoVox RL35, BeoLink PC2 and BeoLink 7000, all with red labels. I also have a BeoMaster 6000 (4 Channel), BeoVision MX2000 and BeoLink 5000, that I am pretty sure are early models as well, as they are different from the production range in some ways, and from what I've been told.
/ Dennis
Dennis:And then I have my BeoMaster 6001, BeoVision AV9000, BeoVox RL35, BeoLink PC2 and BeoLink 7000, all with red labels. I also have a BeoMaster 6000 (4 Channel), BeoVision MX2000 and BeoLink 5000, that I am pretty sure are early models as well, as they are different from the production range in some ways, and from what I've been told.
Exciting*! Any visual or operating differences? I know about the differences in your BM6001, but are the others also different in any way?
*ok, I'm a geek ;)
BTW: the lid of my BG7000 is still flat.
Dennis: @the_o_master Very interesting! I have a BeoLab 3000 with a red label, but without the amplifier: And then I have my BeoMaster 6001, BeoVision AV9000, BeoVox RL35, BeoLink PC2 and BeoLink 7000, all with red labels. I also have a BeoMaster 6000 (4 Channel), BeoVision MX2000 and BeoLink 5000, that I am pretty sure are early models as well, as they are different from the production range in some ways, and from what I've been told. / Dennis
What is exactly the meaning of the red label than?
I thought these devices are prototypes but it can not be that so many prototypes are all around.
And the serial number is also really high...
Wikipedia:
"A prototype is an early sample, model or release of a product built to test a concept or process or to act as a thing to be replicated or learned from. It is a term used in a variety of contexts, including schematics, design, electronics, and software programming. A prototype is designed to test and trial a new design to enhance precision by system analysts and users. Prototyping serves to provide specifications for a real, working system rather than a theoretical one."
Red labelled products are part of a small test production, mostly of products that are planned to go into production at some point. The products where then tested to see if they functioned like they should, and sometimes small changes were made. Some of the functions are named different on my BeoMaster 6001 compared to the final BeoMaster 6000. And the BeoMaster 4401 (Black) didn't even make it to the final production line. So I would say prototype is the correct term for these products.
The reason why they are out here in public is that back in the days, these prototypes could be bought by Bang & Olufsens employees after they had finished testing them, but under the agreement, that they wouldn't sell them, and if they at some point wanted part with them, they would have to bring them back to Bang & Olufsen - But this hasn't always been the case! A few of the prototypes are still around as you can see.
AFAIK Bang & Olufsen don't offer these test products to their employees anymore. Probably because they are "Not guaranteed to be in accordance with specification" as Bang & Olufsen has written on some of the prototypes. And also because they know by experience, that they won't get all the prototypes back when and if the employees or former employees part with them. AFAIK all prototypes are getting destroyed now, when Bang & Olufsen are finished with them, if Bang & Olufsen don't keep a few of them on the factory like this one.
But my theory is, that they only sold the test products, if the models went into production. The product found in the link above and the prototype BeoSystem 6000 has probably never been possible for any B&O employee to buy. Where the BeoSystem went is a mystery though, cause you would think, that Struer Museum would have one of the 6 complete systems, but they only have one of the 7 BeoCord 5000 reel-to-reel prototypes on display. I hope to find one of the components some day, but for now I will have to do with a BeoMaster 6000 (Quad) from the later, but still early stages.
"There were only made 7 of these decks. It was supposed to be part of a system, that should join receiver/amplifier, tape deck and record deck together in a design- and function wise adapted sound system.
The tape deck, that was the first part of the system made on these thoughts, was abandoned as the Compact Cassette (CC) occupied the market.
Price: Prototype therefore never priced."
Help help !!!!!!
I'm search one service manual ( PDF file ) for the RV9A.
Only is the 1 mV and the 1 Volt function dead, the rest is 100%.
I'm search one service manual ( PDF file ) for the RV9A B&O voltmeter.
Hans.