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beogram 9500 connection to amplifier and MMC2 questions

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beogram9500fan
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beogram9500fan Posted: Sat, Mar 3 2018 2:51 PM

I have inherited the great beogram 9500 with a MMC2 cartridge.

Three questions I need help with:

a. Is the MMC2 an MM or MC cartridge

b. If I want to connect the beogram 9500 to an amplifier with MM/MC input (not B&O) using an adapter from DIN to cinch the soun dis horrible (both variants MM and MC). Long time ago I heard the DIN cables have a different connection order than standard DIN - might this be the issue?

c. In case the needle and/or cartridge need to be renewed, does anyone no sources where to buy those - or service points in Germany, Cologne/Bonn area?

Any feedback and support is very much appreciated!

Many thanks in advance!

 

W.Frankenberg / Gandalf
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a-This cartridge is moving coil  mc type.

b-you neef a preamplivier with riaa encoding!

c-have a look to : schallplattennadeln.de 

The MMC2 is a functional replacement for the MMC1 MMC3 MMC4 and MMC5 (MMC1 is top of the line, MMC5 is bottom.) The needle on your existing cartridge is not user replaceable. Keep your old one in case you ever want the tip replaced someday at about 2/3rds the cost of a new one.


This wonderful cartridge will work in any of the following Bang & Olufsen models:


BeoCenter:

2200

7007

7700



BeoGram

RX

RX2

TX

TX2

1800

2000

2404

3000

3300

3500

4500

5000

5005

5500

6002

6500

7000

8002

8500

9000

9500

wilfried

W.Frankenberg / Gandalf
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sorry, of course the MMC 1-5 systems are moving magnet systems

wilfried

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AdamS replied on Mon, Mar 5 2018 1:03 PM

The MMC2 is NOT an MC cartridge, nor are any of B&O's MMC2x or MMCx cartridges. 'MMC' stands for Moving Micro Cross and they are actually closest to a Moving Iron design.

However, from a phono stage compatibility point of view, they should be treated as MMs.

leosgonewild
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buy the riaa-kit from soundsheavenly and connect it to a regular aux input on your amplifier.

"You think we can slap some oak on this thing?"

Saint Beogrowler
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AdamS:

The MMC2 is NOT an MC cartridge, nor are any of B&O's MMC2x or MMCx cartridges. 'MMC' stands for Moving Micro Cross and they are actually closest to a Moving Iron design.

However, from a phono stage compatibility point of view, they should be treated as MMs.

Yes MM for B&O.

But, I think I have one of the only real MC B&O cartridges ever made.

Now that I'm done showing off.

Can you describe the kind of horrible sound? It could be a dirty stylus or wornout stylus or bad suspension on the cartridge.

AdamS
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AdamS replied on Mon, Mar 5 2018 6:19 PM

Now that's something I've never seen before! How does it sound?

Saint Beogrowler
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AdamS:

Now that's something I've never seen before! How does it sound?

It sounds fuller and a little bIt more detailed than the original MMC1 or my rebuilt MMC2.

I haven't measured but it is a pretty low output cart compared to many other MC carts I've used. Running it with the soundsmith MC preamp now, I was using a SUT and a MM soundsmith preamp but I couldn't get the capacitance right.

It really shows off how quiet the Bg8002 is compared to the later linear trackers or my rx2.
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leogoeswild:

buy the riaa-kit from soundsheavenly and connect it to a regular aux input on your amplifier.

Thanks leogoeswild!

Yes, this pre-amp kit includes all cables and instructions, this is correct to link the MMC (Moving Micro Cross, a variation of the moving magnet design) cartridge in your Beogram to any amplifier that doesn't already have a phono pre-amp stage fitted:-

https://soundsheavenly.com/beogram-record-players/pre-amp-bundle-for-bo-beogram-and-all-turntables – please choose the “Twin RCA plugs” output option for a non-B&O amplifier.

I was really interested to see the special "one-off" moving coil B&O cartridge in Saint Beogrowler's pictures, I am very jealous! Geeked

Kind regards, Steve.

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