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BeoSound 1 & 2 next gen announced!

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kuyttendaele Posted: Thu, Aug 23 2018 3:06 PM

Petros Belli, Director Audio & Video products just annouced the updates of BeoSound 1 & 2 with Google Assistant:

 

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bm0iETdD7-T/?taken-by=petrosbeli

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bm0f-rLj_Ge/?taken-by=petrosbeli

Karel.

 

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Just had a demo - works as expected!

 To be released in september.

It is a hardware revison - so kind of new product.

The ‘old’ version will be available too.

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beojeff replied on Thu, Aug 23 2018 4:24 PM

Perfect timing. I had just been contemplating replacing my kitchen BeoSound 1 with a BeoSound 2 for sound from my kitchen TV/BeoSystem 3 -- since the BeoSound 1 has no line-in.

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elephant replied on Thu, Aug 23 2018 5:43 PM
Just for you Jeff :)

I wonder if the circle of dots is functional or just the google branding (same as the lights on their speakers ) ?

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mbee replied on Thu, Aug 23 2018 5:57 PM

elephant:
I wonder if the circle of dots is functional or just the google branding (same as the lights on their speakers ) ?

From B&O's press release : Both have five microphones to listen to your voice commands with a control panel on top to let you swipe for next or previous tracks, turn it to adjust the volume plus four buttons you can program to launch things like calendar, weather, radio, music playlists via Google Assistant compatible services.

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I wonder if the circle of dots is functional

The ‘dots’ wil be used for presets (like those on a BROne) later on.

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elephant replied on Thu, Aug 23 2018 7:15 PM
Thanks MBee & MM

That’s really useful functionality

Nice that it is consistent with the remote’s usage design

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chucky replied on Thu, Aug 23 2018 7:16 PM
Again the obvious route, Khimo works with Crestron, Control4 and Alexa. Alexa is miles ahead in home automation. Google assistant works with Sonos so it would have been nice if this one would interact with Alexa.

Are there any plans to integrate Alexa?
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mbee replied on Thu, Aug 23 2018 7:24 PM

@chucky: what’s better in Alexa concerning home automation? Only Crestron compatibility or more?

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chucky replied on Thu, Aug 23 2018 7:57 PM
It is common that Alexa supports currently more devices and is the way to go on home automation.

For instance

https://thewirecutter.com/reviews/amazon-echo-vs-google-home/

I have before buying into Alexa, not the price but the programming is a time consuming business Looked at a all 4 Siri is really bad, I do not own any android so Cortana is no option, only Google and Alexa remain. Although google knows everything and Alexa can give you some really stupid answers on the skills part she is ahead of the game.

Look into skills for Alexa. I can even project my camera view or doorbird on an Echo spot to see who is at the door, create seens like goodnight, turn on living etc.

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Puncher replied on Thu, Aug 23 2018 9:03 PM

Biggest pro Google for me is that Google allows you to upload all you music to Google play music for free (320mbps) and then can be accessed by Google devices without charge.

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Howzit replied on Thu, Aug 23 2018 9:14 PM
Puncher:

Biggest pro Google for me is that Google allows you to upload all you music to Google play music for free (320mbps) and then can be accessed by Google devices without charge.

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You can do this with Alexa too. I have both Amazon music unlimited (paid service, but you don’t have to have it if you don’t want it) and all my music is uploaded to Amazon music (free). Let’s not forget, Amazon used to be a bookstore, and used to sell a lot of music CDs and LP albums. Amazon is still a big music hub in this streaming era. Amazon admittedly doesn’t have the integration perhaps with players on phones... but then again, the Amazon music app works perfectly fine, on both android and iOS.

Another reason why Alexa is also superior is that you can order groceries or other household items in your Amazon shopping cart through Alexa as well.

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Puncher replied on Thu, Aug 23 2018 9:26 PM

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Puncher:

 

Biggest pro Google for me is that Google allows you to upload all you music to Google play music for free (320mbps) and then can be accessed by Google devices without charge.

 

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You can do this with Alexa too. I have both Amazon music unlimited (paid service, but you don’t have to have it if you don’t want it) and all my music is uploaded to Amazon music (free). Let’s not forget, Amazon used to be a bookstore, and used to sell a lot of music CDs and LP albums. Amazon is still a big music hub in this streaming era. Amazon admittedly doesn’t have the integration perhaps with players on phones... but then again, the Amazon music app works perfectly fine, on both android and iOS.

 

Another reason why Alexa is also superior is that you can order groceries or other household items in your Amazon shopping cart through Alexa as well.

If this is true now, it certainly wasn't some time ago. I specifically didnt get an Alexa because you couldn't upload and have access to your own cds without a subscription and access via voice and cast to different devices.

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poodleboy replied on Thu, Aug 23 2018 9:56 PM

Millemissen:

Just had a demo - works as expected!

 To be released in september.

It is a hardware revison - so kind of new product.

The ‘old’ version will be available too.

MM

So your dealer already has one? What is the difference in price for the two versions?

 

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 No, the dealers will get them in september sometime.

The demo was in Struer.

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The new BS1 has a charging base.....by the way.

Very convenient for the small one.

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Sounds nice really. I very much like both the idea of four favourite buttons on top and the charging dock. A proper v2 of both products with meaningful and practical enhancements. I can imagine these will be selling well. 

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A shame that the current Beosound 1 couldn't be software updated. Feel for the dealers with stock of colours they need to clear.

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Duels replied on Fri, Aug 24 2018 7:08 AM
Millemissen:

The new BS1 has a charging base.....by the way.

Very convenient for the small one.

MM

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That’s good
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Hiort replied on Fri, Aug 24 2018 7:30 AM

Not available for the scandinavian countries at launch, since Google Assistant for smart speakers is not launched here yet according to the press material.

A BS2 is now 2000 Eur....   quite steep.

And you need to pay extra for the charging base for BS1...

 

 

 

 

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moxxey replied on Fri, Aug 24 2018 7:52 AM

Hiort:

A BS2 is now 2000 Eur....   quite steep.

I was going to ask that question. Isn’t the BS2 £1495 right now, but the “next gen” now £1650 just with the addition of Google Voice?

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Yay

Decisions. Decisions.
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Rob.B:

A shame that the current Beosound 1 couldn't be software updated. Feel for the dealers with stock of colours they need to clear.

But I think MM stated that they will sell the old and the new one side by side.

If it does replace it, i heard from a dealer once that they were not allowed to sell the new stuff when the old stuff is there. It was in the time of the BL12/15. It had a price reduction but they weren’t allowed to sell it at the price reduction because it was the older stock which had the higher price. Bloody stupid if you ask me.

I would really like the google assistant. So much nicer than the google home speakers.
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Micheal, buy my sealed Beosound 1 so I don’t have to worry about old stock 😎

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Micheal, buy my sealed Beosound 1 so I don’t have to worry about old stock 😎

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steve1977 replied on Fri, Aug 24 2018 9:39 AM
Any insights on the price for the new BS1?

Will the charging base work with the old BS1 aa well?

Has it been confirmed that they’ll continue having BS1 and BS1mk2 in the line-up? Seems an awkward move given how small the difference is.
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I guess they need both version, as google assistant is not launch in every country.

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steve1977:
Any insights on the price

All pricing details in the .pdf press release from MM's link above in this thread.

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It should at least have the option to change it from “Hey Google” to whatever you like.

The Home mini is 65€ and a chromecast audio is 35€. Just jamming it into your product you should ad something that differs it from stock.

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Rob.B:

Micheal, buy my sealed Beosound 1 so I don’t have to worry about old stock 😎

:-). But I already have one of those
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moxxey replied on Fri, Aug 24 2018 11:33 AM

steve1977:
Any insights on the price for the new BS1?

The price has gone up: €1,500/£1,250/$1,750

The existing BS1 is £1085. Funny, when I bought mine, I think I picked it up for £995 at launch.

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moxxey replied on Fri, Aug 24 2018 11:36 AM

Rob.B:

A shame that the current Beosound 1 couldn't be software updated. Feel for the dealers with stock of colours they need to clear.

It would require a lot more than just a software update? There is additional hardware in the new BS1/BS2 which recognises your voice and reacts accordingly - you can't do that via software! There's clearly some kind of microphone added and more.

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moxxey:

It would require a lot more than just a software update? There is additional hardware in the new BS1/BS2 which recognises your voice and reacts accordingly - you can't do that via software! There's clearly some kind of microphone added and more.

Now just to add the ability for these to be used as wireless rear speakers Unsure
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Zwets replied on Fri, Aug 24 2018 1:23 PM

If you like to Google Asissitant and own the old version of the Beosound 1/2 then a Google Home (mini) integrates perfectly. I have a speaker group set up between a GHM and the Beosound. 

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TWG replied on Fri, Aug 24 2018 1:33 PM

 I prefer the older Beosound 1 without the voice functionality. But the charging station is a very nice plus. I know it's been asked but there's no answer yet: Will the charging station be compatible with the older Beosound 1?

The Beosound 1 is simply the most beautiful thing of all their wireless speakers (for me).

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Hiort replied on Fri, Aug 24 2018 3:07 PM
TWG:

I prefer the older Beosound 1 without the voice functionality. But the charging station is a very nice plus. I know it's been asked but there's no answer yet: Will the charging station be compatible with the older Beosound 1?

I very much doubt that.

 

 

 

 

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Beozip replied on Fri, Aug 24 2018 3:35 PM

Here you find 2 pictures from the Dockingstation.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/beoplay/with/43296232175/

It looks like that will work fine with the MK I Modell Smile

 

 

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beojeff replied on Fri, Aug 24 2018 4:13 PM
Is there any word if we’ll get the same color options?
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