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Multiroom group join logic

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mbolo01
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mbolo01 Posted: Sun, Dec 9 2018 3:16 PM

Can someone please explain me the "multiroom join" logic when executed from a product by pressing a button or through the app product "touch to join" option?

Context: I have two products running different music streams

Scenario: I tap on a third a product button, or I press "touch to join" on the product "..." screen, which product group am i supposed to join?

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Carolpa replied on Sun, Dec 9 2018 3:30 PM

mbolo01:
Can someone please explain me the "multiroom join" logic when executed from a product by pressing a button or through the app product "touch to join" option?

Context: I have two products running different music streams

Scenario: I tap on a third a product button, or I press "touch to join" on the product "..." screen, which product group am i supposed to join?

Interesting question indeed, I also did ask myself but didn't find an answer for.

If you pressed Join though and it isn't the group you planned to join, press Join again (or again if even more NL devices are active) 

 

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Sandyb replied on Sun, Dec 9 2018 4:10 PM
It is supposed to cycle through sources, both built in or other NL experiences. But for me, it often doesn't cycle through properly
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Carolpa replied on Sun, Dec 9 2018 5:30 PM

Sandyb:
But for me, it often doesn't cycle through properly
I have no issues whatsoever with the "cycle".

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Hello mbolo01,

Hopefully I can answer your question;

Let's take your example with 3 products.

 

Scenario 1:

At 8.00 product 1 is turned on and is playing "Elton John - Your Song" on Deezer

At 8.01 product 2 is turned on with the app, and is playing "Fleetwood Mac - Go your own way" on Deezer

Now, at 8.03 you go to product 3 (let's say it's an A9) and tap on it: you will join product 2 and play Fleetwood Mac, because that product changed state last. If you tap once more it will join product 1.

 

Scenario 2:

At 9.00 product 1 is turned on and is playing "Elton John - Rocket man" on Deezer

At 9.01 product 2 is turned on with the app, and is playing "Fleetwood Mac - Everywhere" on Deezer

At 9.02 you adjust the volume slightly on product 1

Now, at 9.03 you go to product 3 and tap on it: you will join product 1 and play Elton John, because that product changed state last. 

 

Scenario 3:

At 10.00 product 1 is turned on and is playing "Elton John - Candle in the wind" on Deezer

At 10.01 product 2 is turned on with the app, and is playing "Fleetwood Mac - Dreams" on Deezer

At 10.03 "Elton John - Candle in the wind" has come to an end, and the track changes to "Sacrifice"

Now, at 10.04 you go to product 3 and tap on it: you will join product 1 and play Elton John, because that product changed state last. 

Conclusion:

The products announce all changes in volume, source and metadata to the rest of the products every time it changes, and whatever product announced a change last, is the one that will be joined first.

 

Hope this makes sense, if not, feel free to ask.

 

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mbolo01 replied on Sun, Dec 9 2018 8:26 PM
christiank:

Hope this makes sense, if not, feel free to ask.

Many thanks christiank! Cristal clear. I’ll pay attention now and revert in case this logic has failed in my setup.

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Sandyb replied on Sun, Dec 9 2018 8:58 PM

Wish i could say the same,

Cycling through sources on my Beosystem 4 works fine, never fails.

Cycling through by tapping (physically) my Beosound 2, and A9 can be quiet unreliable, and i end up needing to reach for the app.

 

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Carolpa replied on Mon, Dec 10 2018 5:32 AM

Sandyb:
Wish i could say the same,

Cycling through sources on my Beosystem 4 works fine, never fails.

Cycling through by tapping (physically) my Beosound 2, and A9 can be quiet unreliable, and i end up needing to reach for the app.

you mean joining several NL active? or do you mean the internal sources of your BS2 / A9?

To improve the latter, I switched several internal unused sources off such as Qplay and Spotify.

 

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Sandyb replied on Mon, Dec 10 2018 11:34 AM
Carolpa:

you mean joining several NL active? or do you mean the internal sources of your BS2 / A9?

To improve the latter, I switched several internal unused sources off such as Qplay and Spotify.

It’s more like NL sources where my BS2 and A9 can struggle, with physical tap to join. Everything is fine with the app.

Physically tapping to join does work sometimes, other times not. It may be that keeping my hand hovered close by confuses the proximity sensor. A random theory of course
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richu replied on Tue, Sep 3 2019 8:17 PM

Thanks christiank for explanation. Very clear now. But doesn't make sense. B&O has built Multiroom, but without their customers.

Only szenario 1 makes sense. All the rest is crap. Sorry for that.

Szenario 4 could be: it depends on the half side of the moon ...

 

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bs206 replied on Tue, Sep 3 2019 8:46 PM

In the B&O App, you can set each product for secundairy and primary multi-room product in multi-room setup.

On the Beosound Moment, you have go to the settings menu by removing the back panel.

 

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