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Beovision Avant OG Vs NG??

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Gennaro Posted: Thu, Dec 20 2018 4:31 AM
Hi guys,

Happy holidays, I’m thinking about buying a used Beovision Avant and can’t remember all the pros & cons of the NG VS the OG one... I mean beside the NG running on the now old Android.

I mean more on,

4K panel difference?

HDMI specs & support difference?

Do all HDMI inputs are the same?

And then some,,,

Which version should I consider if I do decide to get one?

Pls help, lol

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f5434964 replied on Thu, Dec 20 2018 5:53 AM

Dear Friend of beoworld!

difficult to say; I have/had them both and I would wish my first one to come back again 

picturewise the new one is better and tunerwise  4K Integration has been done more properly (HVEC); I did not see any difference between HD and 4K on the old Avant

all the other Thinge - B&O Integration, menu, on screen Display have been gar better on the old one 

e.g.: stand: old Avant remembered stand options for Audio and Video - new one does not; epg Guide one new one works terrible or Even not; Common Interface: old one Could handle two different cards- new one can not; TV Apps: old one did not have any - but new one does not offer anything better- so if you want to stream you would have to get a third party product 

best regards 

elmar 

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Gennaro replied on Thu, Dec 20 2018 12:35 PM
Thank you so much Elmar

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Gennaro replied on Fri, Dec 21 2018 5:02 AM
I was able to get a serial number of the one I was looking to buy.. does anyone here have access to look it up to see if it’s a NG or not?

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Michael replied on Fri, Dec 21 2018 3:42 PM
I have the original Avant 55 and prefer it. It doesn’t have the android system with buggy B&O apps that crashes the entire tv now and then.

4K shines on it and I only use external sources (Apple TV 4K) so HVEC support in the tv itself is not necessary in any way since the external box decodes it properly and very well.

I enjoy the system fully and it’s display. The NG editions uses a cheaper display with a fixed backlit that isn’t zoned as the better backlit models. The older Avant is edgelit and does zone dimming. It’s better but of course not the best either.

All in all I’d say the original one is way better and NG is a model only introduced to save costs.

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Sandyb replied on Fri, Dec 21 2018 4:07 PM
Completely agree - I had an Android BV (14), and the screen/ panel technology is worse than the Avant MK 1.

I wouldn’t underestimate how much the Android BV’s with their limited dimming is bad with dark scenes in movies and some TV programmes. It was good with sports but difficult to watch for plenty of other material.

The Avant MK 1 I have now instead is a much better all rounder.

And the operating system is rock solid
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9 LEE replied on Fri, Dec 21 2018 6:50 PM

I'm in agreement. Mk1 all the way for me.

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Gennaro replied on Fri, Dec 21 2018 7:13 PM
Hmmmmmm, 🤔

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Gennaro replied on Fri, Dec 21 2018 7:15 PM
I have a serial number, would you guys be able to tell what version it is?

Whether it’s Mk1? Or NG?

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9 LEE replied on Fri, Dec 21 2018 7:16 PM

If it starts 24***** it's a Mk1. 

What are the first 4 numbers?

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Gennaro replied on Fri, Dec 21 2018 7:21 PM
Serial #25481957

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9 LEE replied on Fri, Dec 21 2018 7:26 PM

I can't check until tomorrow but I'm 75% sure that's in the Mk1 range....

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Gennaro replied on Fri, Dec 21 2018 7:32 PM
Awesome 9lee, keep me posted.. Big Smile

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Sandyb replied on Fri, Dec 21 2018 7:48 PM
It's not even close - the MK1 is the better performer.

I was surprised how bad the newer screens were, in the Android BV's.

The choice of apps from the Google Play store is not comprehensive, so an external box is likely. In which case the MK1 makes even more sense.

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Gennaro replied on Wed, Dec 26 2018 2:15 PM
Thanks Sandyb, good info....

especially since I’m only going to use an ATV 4K and a PS4..::

Wondering which HDMI to use?

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David replied on Sat, Apr 20 2019 9:53 AM

Hi all. I'm a Mk1 owner. The Mk1 does not auto-wake when powering up a connected HDMI source.

 

Just wondering, does the NG power up automatically in this case?

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Sandyb replied on Sun, Apr 21 2019 9:52 AM
Don't believe so

I had the BV14, and that behavior wasn't possible - and it was the same engine as the Avant NG
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Michael replied on Sun, Apr 21 2019 11:24 AM
David:

Hi all. I'm a Mk1 owner. The Mk1 does not auto-wake when powering up a connected HDMI source.

Just wondering, does the NG power up automatically in this case?

Not from sleep but it can be set to detect video on hdmi and switch accordingly. I have this set up for one device only - my PS4 pro.

It means that to toggle gaming I only have to grab my gaming remote and press the PlayStation button to turn it on, as it turns on the tv notices the hdmi feed and switches from whatever source I’m watching. Extremely pleasant and therefore no need at all to reach for the BeoRemote when gaming.

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9 LEE replied on Sun, Apr 21 2019 11:33 AM

Michael:
It means that to toggle gaming I only have to grab my gaming remote and press the PlayStation button to turn it on, as it turns on the tv notices the hdmi feed and switches from whatever source I’m watching. Extremely pleasant and therefore no need at all to reach for the BeoRemote when gaming.

First world problems.... Laughing

 

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Michael replied on Sun, Apr 21 2019 3:12 PM
9 LEE:

First world problems....

First world solutions actually Big Smile

By the way, OG makes me think only about original

Gangster haha

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