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Anything New for 2019?

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Bv7Mk3 Posted: Sat, Jan 26 2019 9:57 PM

Not been on here for a while and wondering anything like a new hifi or upgrade to Eclipse or

Another tv ia on the way?.Im losing the will to B&O.

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Jon replied on Sat, Jan 26 2019 11:37 PM
Bv7Mk3:

Not been on here for a while and wondering anything like a new hifi or upgrade to Eclipse or

Another tv ia on the way?.Im losing the will to B&O.

I think I’ve read about rumours of a new Eclipse this year with newer panels, the mk3 A9 just came out too.

Also noticed the H9i are heavily reduced (£329 from Currys/Peter Tyson/Amazon) last time I looked, so hoping that’s a sign there’s a new model coming and retailers are trying to get rid of stock!
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Hiort replied on Sun, Jan 27 2019 8:38 AM
I heard that there will be a replacement to Horizon once the current stock are sold out. No OLED since the sizes will be 40” and upwards.

 

 

 

 

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moxxey replied on Sun, Jan 27 2019 11:34 AM

Jon:

Also noticed the H9i are heavily reduced (£329 from Currys/Peter Tyson/Amazon) last time I looked, so hoping that’s a sign there’s a new model coming and retailers are trying to get rid of stock!

Hold on, retailers like Curry's and John Lewis don't know what's coming! Your everyday high street retailer doesn't really have an idea of forthcoming electronic products and more than insiders on this forum. Your dealer would know before a retailer such as Currys.

What happens is B&O will run promos on products to shift stock or simply rotate offers. It will be their plan (which is why all the retailers are involved), not the retailer's decision.

Also, wasn't the H9i fairly recently released?

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Jon replied on Sun, Jan 27 2019 12:27 PM
moxxey:

Hold on, retailers like Curry's and John Lewis don't know what's coming! Your everyday high street retailer doesn't really have an idea of forthcoming electronic products and more than insiders on this forum. Your dealer would know before a retailer such as Currys.

What happens is B&O will run promos on products to shift stock or simply rotate offers. It will be their plan (which is why all the retailers are involved), not the retailer's decision.

Also, wasn't the H9i fairly recently released?

Ahh I see, that makes sense!

Came out just over year ago I think, which I’m fairly sure is the same gap between the H9 and H9i
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mawheele replied on Sun, Jan 27 2019 3:03 PM
No new Eclipse this year - just bigger screen sizes.
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Robin replied on Sun, Jan 27 2019 8:14 PM
Is there anything to expect from the ise?
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Really looking forward to some new colors! Laughing

The A1 color options are just of the charts.

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Sandyb replied on Sun, Jan 27 2019 11:18 PM
Apparently yes, bigger screen sizes in some type of Eclipse form factor

But also a different TV with speakers that retract and act as curtains.

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KMA replied on Mon, Jan 28 2019 7:00 AM
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But also a different TV with speakers that retract and act as curtains.

Could be a collaboration with LG as well: LG has a concept of such a TV (or at least this that has speakers move in front of the screen is quite similar):

https://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1545120142

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moxxey replied on Mon, Jan 28 2019 10:33 AM

leosgonewild:
Really looking forward to some new colors! Laughing

The A1 color options are just of the charts.

New SS19 colours are just around the corner: Spring Yellow, Dusty Pink and Sailor Blue.

Sadly though, I think the A1 is getting less B&O love lately. I love that little speaker, although the P2, on balance, is now my new fave, simply as it's so small it's immensely transportable.

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Puncher replied on Mon, Jan 28 2019 6:12 PM

moxxey:
Dusty Pink and Sailor Blue.

Erm..

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Jeff replied on Mon, Jan 28 2019 7:27 PM

Puncher:

moxxey:
Dusty Pink and Sailor Blue.

Erm..

Hello sailor! Surprise

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Fansastic replied on Mon, Jan 28 2019 7:42 PM
My dealer told me that bigger sized Eclipses are expected.

No other products, but he had seen a mysterious prototype which B&O was very silent about. His guess is that it might be a remote with colour screen to integrate with all NL products. A full blown alternative for the app on your phone and in the traditional B&O design.

A successor for the Beosound Moment and no longer based on own (faulty) software.

Very curious if that would be the case, sound really interesting and logical in my opinion.

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Robin:
Is there anything to expect from the ise?

Hi Robin,

I will try to remember to report back to Beoworld with details of anything new or interesting from the B&O stand at ISE next week......

(not including "dusty pink" or "sailor blue" colours, of course) Big Smile

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Robin replied on Mon, Jan 28 2019 10:04 PM
Thanks Steve,

Really looking forward to it! In case there are good news, please do take some nice pictures ;-)
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kai replied on Mon, Jan 28 2019 10:37 PM

Will they launch a new TV's this year. I have been told that they will no longer produce TV's after 2020

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andybandy replied on Mon, Jan 28 2019 10:48 PM


Where have you seen this mysterious prototype? very interesting if a real stereo system coming out. 

i hope B&O can come out whit something other then BeoSound core as they only stereo system for beolab speakers. 

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moxxey replied on Mon, Jan 28 2019 10:50 PM

Jeff:

Puncher:

moxxey:
Dusty Pink and Sailor Blue.

Erm..

Hello sailor! Surprise

I was told that the newly-formed B&O "Colors Team" had been instructed to think outside the box, focus on a theme away from native Denmark (think drab olives, greys and heather) and spent on a long weekend in South Beach for inspiration for the new season.

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Jeff replied on Mon, Jan 28 2019 11:58 PM

moxxey:

Jeff:

Puncher:

moxxey:
Dusty Pink and Sailor Blue.

Erm..

Hello sailor! Surprise

I was told that the newly-formed B&O "Colors Team" had been instructed to think outside the box, focus on a theme away from native Denmark (think drab olives, greys and heather) and spent on a long weekend in South Beach for inspiration for the new season.

So, say hello to the rebirth of Miami Vice color profiles and beard stubble?

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Puncher replied on Tue, Jan 29 2019 7:22 AM

moxxey:

Jeff:

Puncher:

moxxey:
Dusty Pink and Sailor Blue.

Erm..

Hello sailor! Surprise

I was told that the newly-formed B&O "Colors Team" had been instructed to think outside the box, focus on a theme away from native Denmark (think drab olives, greys and heather) and spent on a long weekend in South Beach for inspiration for the new season.

....and came up with the name of a Drag double act!

I can't help thinking that if times are hard and development money is tight then I'd much rather see whatever funds are available go into Engineering, Acoustics, ID or even (heaven forbid) software development - rather than waste it on a "Colors Team"...………….really???  Wtf do they do for the rest of the year? I'm sure the ID team could have picked "non-standard" colours if asked, they could've even asked me and I'd have picked some or else go HERE. (Sailor Blue came up first and Dusty Pink was my third press).

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Esax replied on Tue, Jan 29 2019 8:45 AM
I think they are. A small bird told me a upgraded core is coming.

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mawheele replied on Tue, Jan 29 2019 8:55 AM
kai:

Will they launch a new TV's this year. I have been told that they will no longer produce TV's after 2020

Ignore the coming out of the tv business. It’s a quarter of their revenue and now much more profitable. Yes to new TVs - larger screens.
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moxxey replied on Tue, Jan 29 2019 10:49 AM

mawheele:
kai:

Will they launch a new TV's this year. I have been told that they will no longer produce TV's after 2020

Ignore the coming out of the tv business. It’s a quarter of their revenue and now much more profitable. Yes to new TVs - larger screens.

Also, isn't this 'no longer producing TVs' a misnomer for the LG partnership? B&O isn't producing new TVs, LG is. I'm guessing the Horizon is the last 'B&O TV' and once this has sold through, no more B&O-produced TVs.

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Robin replied on Tue, Jan 29 2019 11:09 AM
moxxey:

Also, isn't this 'no longer producing TVs' a misnomer for the LG partnership? B&O isn't producing new TVs, LG is. I'm guessing the Horizon is the last 'B&O TV' and once this has sold through, no more B&O-produced TVs.

I don’t mind them doing a partnership with other companies as they always have Philips Samsung... they don’t have to invent the wheel, they should try to integrate it and try to make the best out of it. Yes, the eclipse is quite lg ish, but on the other hand they’ve integrated it with the b&o stuff, put a great speaker into it and so on. Basically that’s what most companies do. They take parts of other brands integrate it and build something different nice. Just because the menu changes and the curtains are gone, that doesn’t mean you don’t have a b&o tv any longer.
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moxxey replied on Tue, Jan 29 2019 12:09 PM

Puncher:

- rather than waste it on a "Colors Team"...………….really???  Wtf do they do for the rest of the year? 

There are two seasons (SS/AW) a year, so that's a minimum of 6 colors the team needs to research, prototype and get approved. As their budget and manpower have both increased recently, they are now travelling across the globe for inspiration. It's a tough role and I've heard, rather demanding and stressful.

You need 3 years of experience to be even considered for a role in this new team, such is the internal demand to get colors and material spot on first time: https://www.yankodesign.com/2018/12/24/yd-job-alert-bang-olufsen-is-looking-for-a-cmf-designer/

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If they were classic elegant desireable designs like the Beosound 9000 or Beolab 8000/5, they wouldn't have to spend so much time dressing up all this stuff.

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Mikipidia replied on Tue, Jan 29 2019 12:48 PM
Somehow the colours thing always feel to me like a half way jokeStick out tongue

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marexy replied on Tue, Jan 29 2019 12:52 PM

Chris Townsend:
If they were classic elegant desireable designs like the Beosound 9000 or Beolab 8000/5, they wouldn't have to spend so much time dressing up all this stuff.

 

agree!! +1

 

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beojeff replied on Tue, Jan 29 2019 12:59 PM

moxxey:

Puncher:

- rather than waste it on a "Colors Team"...………….really???  Wtf do they do for the rest of the year? 

There are two seasons (SS/AW) a year, so that's a minimum of 6 colors the team needs to research, prototype and get approved. As their budget and manpower have both increased recently, they are now travelling across the globe for inspiration. It's a tough role and I've heard, rather demanding and stressful.

You need 3 years of experience to be even considered for a role in this new team, such is the internal demand to get colors and material spot on first time: https://www.yankodesign.com/2018/12/24/yd-job-alert-bang-olufsen-is-looking-for-a-cmf-designer/

I can't help but picture Patsy and Edina from "Absolutely Fabulous" on this team -- constantly drunk and jet setting around the world to find inspiration.

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Puncher replied on Tue, Jan 29 2019 1:10 PM

moxxey:

There are two seasons (SS/AW) a year, so that's a minimum of 6 colors the team needs to research, prototype and get approved. As their budget and manpower have both increased recently, they are now travelling across the globe for inspiration. It's a tough role and I've heard, rather demanding and stressful.

You need 3 years of experience to be even considered for a role in this new team, such is the internal demand to get colors and material spot on first time: https://www.yankodesign.com/2018/12/24/yd-job-alert-bang-olufsen-is-looking-for-a-cmf-designer/

I'm sorry but no, in the Top 1000 tough, demanding and stressful jobs, picking colours and fabric is very, very close to the bottom!

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Yes everyone could pick the new colour of the season. Easiest job in the world to figure out what people will buy. (If it is not clear I am holding up my sarcasmen sign!)

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Puncher replied on Tue, Jan 29 2019 2:30 PM

Emil Jensen:

Yes everyone could pick the new colour of the season. Easiest job in the world to figure out what people will buy. (If it is not clear I am holding up my sarcasmen sign!)

After extensive  research I've picked the 3 in the middle 

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Any way...

Looking bright for the B&O year, if we see the comments.

A 77" Eclipse,

Maybe a 88" model

Maybe a whole new TV with moving speakers

A Updated Horizon with Web OS but still LED

A Besound Core update

A soundbar 3.0

A whole new tablet with multiroom control.

Not sure if all or any is coming.  But very interesting future.

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Jeff replied on Tue, Jan 29 2019 3:03 PM

Chris Townsend:
If they were classic elegant desireable designs like the Beosound 9000 or Beolab 8000/5, they wouldn't have to spend so much time dressing up all this stuff.

Agree completely, chasing trends rather than creating stunning designs.

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Duels replied on Tue, Jan 29 2019 3:27 PM
Puncher:

I'm sorry but no, in the Top 1000 tough, demanding and stressful jobs, picking colours and fabric is very, very close to the bottom!

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Yeah..... style and fashion. Easy. Anybody could do it.
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moxxey replied on Tue, Jan 29 2019 3:50 PM

Puncher:

I'm sorry but no, in the Top 1000 tough, demanding and stressful jobs, picking colours and fabric is very, very close to the bottom!

Sorry Puncher, I think you misunderstood what I meant here. I was saying that recent changes internally at B&O has resulted in a lot of pressure for the new Color Team to meet targets as it's become such an important role within the company. It's pushing new boundaries and hasn't gone unrecognised. It's been noticed that purchasers are always discussing the color options (it's a key topic on this forum, for instance) and how these colors influence decision-making.

Therefore the demand and stress come from meeting and exceeding customer requirements for new color choices and the team is struggling to be inspired around Struer and are seeking other locations for forthcoming seasons.

For AW19 I'm told that the team has a week booked in Havana. 

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Jeff replied on Tue, Jan 29 2019 4:10 PM

Duels:
Puncher:

 

I'm sorry but no, in the Top 1000 tough, demanding and stressful jobs, picking colours and fabric is very, very close to the bottom!

 

Ban boring signatures!

 

 

Yeah..... style and fashion. Easy. Anybody could do it.

Chasing style and fashion usually means you are going to be completely reactive trying to chase trends. The business world has a long term miserable reputation for actually being able to drive style and trends, the public usually seizes on something out of the blue and all the companies try to catch up, with success going to those who can respond the fastest.

 

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Puncher replied on Tue, Jan 29 2019 4:33 PM

Duels:
Puncher:

 

I'm sorry but no, in the Top 1000 tough, demanding and stressful jobs, picking colours and fabric is very, very close to the bottom!

 

Ban boring signatures!

 

 

Yeah..... style and fashion. Easy. Anybody could do it.

Whilst I mock and over exaggerate to make my point I will ask how many new, new sales does this generate? For example how many Dusty Pink H9i's will be sold where, without the pink option, there would not have been an H9i sale at all?

This together with the point made by others, i.e. design a killer product and it's colour is irrelevant.

 

As I said earlier I believe the money would be better off spent elsewhere, if they want fashionable colours then ask Pantone what next seasons colours will be and pick a few - how wrong can they be and they're gone within 6 months - it's hardly a company disaster if a single colour fails to sell!!

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Puncher replied on Tue, Jan 29 2019 4:40 PM

moxxey:

Puncher:

I'm sorry but no, in the Top 1000 tough, demanding and stressful jobs, picking colours and fabric is very, very close to the bottom!

Sorry Puncher, I think you misunderstood what I meant here. I was saying that recent changes internally at B&O has resulted in a lot of pressure for the new Color Team to meet targets as it's become such an important role within the company. It's pushing new boundaries and hasn't gone unrecognised. It's been noticed that purchasers are always discussing the color options (it's a key topic on this forum, for instance) and how these colors influence decision-making.

Therefore the demand and stress come from meeting and exceeding customer requirements for new color choices and the team is struggling to be inspired around Struer and are seeking other locations for forthcoming seasons.

For AW19 I'm told that the team has a week booked in Havana. 

They'd probably sell more product if they had the Havana trip as a raffle prize with a free entry with every sale and left the lads with the crayons at home!

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