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Bang & Olufsen 2.6.3 is ready to test on iOS

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Dyssegaard Posted: Sat, Jun 1 2019 4:46 PM
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Here are the results of my test of the latest beta.

What to Test:

1. Fixed album art from DLNA.

Still not fixed. When using basic prev and next controls when playing on M5, album art is not updated correcly.

2. Fixed basic prev and next control for Deezer on integrated setup.

OK when using Deezer free version on my BV11/Core. However, for other sources I still get an error message:

3. Fixed shuffle and repeat for integrated setup.

Buttons are now visible in integrated setup, but the DLNA playback will still loop no matter the setting of the repeat button.

Best regards - Dyssegaard

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mbolo01 replied on Sat, Jun 1 2019 6:56 PM

1. DLNA Album art ok for me (M5, Core, BS 1 were tested, no integrated setup)

3. Loop issue is supposed to be fixed by product updates if I remember well

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Thanks for the feedback. I will look at the other sources. Shuffle repeat needs a product update as well, I will try it just the same for DLNA.

The issue with album art was that we use https and that didn't work for DLNA servers. We now use http and that fixed it in our setup. We have in the past seen that the products sometimes are behind when sending the meta data. If you open and close the player, is it still wrong?

 

 

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MrAndersen:

Thanks for the feedback. I will look at the other sources. Shuffle repeat needs a product update as well, I will try it just the same for DLNA.

The issue with album art was that we use https and that didn't work for DLNA servers. We now use http and that fixed it in our setup. We have in the past seen that the products sometimes are behind when sending the meta data. If you open and close the player, is it still wrong?

I have just tried the DLNA playback again on my M5. If I step through the songs the album art is blank. If I then close the Now Playing view and opens it again the album art is updated correctly.

Best regards - Dyssegaard

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Hiort replied on Mon, Jun 3 2019 8:59 PM

Dyssegaard:

I have just tried the DLNA playback again on my M5. If I step through the songs the album art is blank. If I then close the Now Playing view and opens it again the album art is updated correctly.

I do exactly that on my M5 and I can step through songs on an album and the album art is always shown.

 

 

 

 

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@MrAndersen:

I have just discovered the following regarding the DLNA cover art issue.

If I have a play queue with several albums and then select shuffle mode, the cover art is updated correctly when I step forward or backward and the next/previous song comes from a different album. If the song comes from the same album the cover art is blank until I close and re-open the Now Playing window.

Best regards - Dyssegaard

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Interesting observation, we will try this. The symptom could imply a product issue, but I hope not. Then it will be harder to fix. 

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mbolo01 replied on Tue, Jun 4 2019 12:35 PM
Dyssegaard:

I have just discovered the following regarding the DLNA cover art issue

I have tested the scenario on both my Core and M5 and had no issue.

I’m not in an integrated setup and I used Minimserver in that test

[edit] the only issue I have seen while playing the test scenario is the progress bar not being updated properly and staying filled independently of the real track elapsed time

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mbolo01 replied on Tue, Jun 4 2019 12:43 PM
That reminds me about and old requirement I have: the gesture on the cover art to move to next/previous track is far too sensitive, moving the image half a millimeter changes the track.

Look at what Deezer does (an example) on this front compared to what the B&O app does .... night and day in user experience

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@Dyssegaard tried it with 4 tracks from 4 different albums with shuffle and it worked on our Synology. What NAS are you using?

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Didn't see your update. So the issue only happened on an integrated setup with minimserver?

 

I will look at the sensitivity

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MrAndersen:

@Dyssegaard tried it with 4 tracks from 4 different albums with shuffle and it worked on our Synology. What NAS are you using?

My NAS: WD My Cloud Home / Plex DLNA Server.

Best regards - Dyssegaard

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@MrAndersen:

2.6.3.20342 - What to Test:

1. Fixed prev/next for DLNA on integrated setup

It works Big Smile.

PS: The cover art issue we have discussed earlier today is also present on the integrated setup.

2. Removed Configure link from Moment

Not able to test as I don’t have the Moment.

Best regards - Dyssegaard

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@MrAndersen:

One more observation on the DLNA cover art issue. When I use next/prev on the lock screen it works perfectly in the integrated setup, and the cover art is updated correctly on the lock screen no matter if the next/prev song is from the same or a different album:

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That makes it even more puzzling. We have a WD My Cloud now, I will try it

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jvezina replied on Sat, Jun 8 2019 3:29 PM

To Mr Andersen:

Please don't forget to add the virtual keyboard in the app for the Eclipse!!!

Regards,

Jean 

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Any date set for the E8 bug?
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abyss replied on Tue, Jun 11 2019 9:35 PM

Unfortunately the shuffle function still doesn't work in my app when I select Eclipse and Deezer. Beosound and Core don't have any problems with it, maybe I just have a wrong setting?

And then I still have something on my wish list, but I know, first of all the app still needs some work and secondly it is clear to me that this is not easy to implement and thirdly I am perhaps one of the few who cry about it...

When I still owned vinyl and later CDs, I loved to flip through the collection and just let myself be inspired. Suddenly I discovered a cover of a band I hadn't heard in a long time and listened to the album again.

I don't mourn the old days any longer, but I really miss that, discover it. Today I get sterile lists which are just not fun to discover. Just scrolling up and down is just not fun.

Under the motto, "touch and discover your music collection", I have a suggestion:

Chaos cover art.

The principle is quite simple: on a black picture only the covers of the albums (favorites) are shown. Of course only a certain number, otherwise the whole thing is a bit confusing.

The whole thing should work like a kind of wheel. I can swip endlessly in one direction or the other and I am constantly presented with new covers.

The covers are displayed in different sizes, without systematics. The system decides continuously on his own.

If i find a cover exciting, I tap on it. Then I see the artist / name and the titles. Either I tap on the album, the album is played, or I tap on a song or I swipe on.

On an Ipad or something like that it would allow me to discover my collection again.  

From my point of view this should work with albums and with songs (maybe with playlists). But of course I see the technical restrictions that Deezer might set.

I know I'm probably a dreamer here, but I just had to get rid of it. Maybe, when I'm retired, I'll program it myself.Big Smile

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abyss replied on Tue, Jun 11 2019 9:51 PM

Something like this....

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mbolo01 replied on Thu, Jun 20 2019 3:44 PM

Not sure if it due to the latest product software updates but multiroom management in the app is in trouble.

My Core is the master, I joined my M5 and my BS1 to it by physically pressing on product start button.

Looking at the the B&O app, it does not show the Core a being part of a Multiroom group the multiroom screen of the Core shows the M5 and BS 1 as potential candidates to join while both M5 and BS 1 are shown with the multiroom icon, AND, CAN NO LONGER BE CONTROLLED BY THE APP ....

I had to wait for several minutes before seing the correct status in the app, even after stopping/restarting the app.

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stampfki replied on Thu, Jun 20 2019 6:13 PM

Well, same here. Router restart helps. It seems, that all the B&O network devices are truly sensitive to network glitches, particularly on WiFi.

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I think this is a pretty good way of describing the software team at B&O

"You think we can slap some oak on this thing?"

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mbolo01: The list comes from the product, restarting the app will not help. For some reason the products cannot "see" each other

jvezina: we have made the text input but decided to to release it yet. The LG part is very inconsistent in where this works and where it doesn't

PoulGiles: Sorry but what bug are you referring to?

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mbolo01 replied on Wed, Jul 3 2019 1:36 PM

MrAndersen:

mbolo01: The list comes from the product, restarting the app will not help. For some reason the products cannot "see" each other

@MrAndersen: Thanks, good to know for further troubleshooting.

Now that "now playing queue" (NPQ) list loop issue has been fixed on all products (at least those that I own), it would be nice to have a NPQ track(s) insertion logic revisited :-)

The only product that does it the way it should (IMHO) for Albums is the Moment ..... and for Deezer albums only, not for DLNA ones, i.e. when a Deezer album is added to a Moment's NPQ, the latest is emptied first. Result is similar to adding a CD in a single CD player, previous CD is taken out.

Other kind of addition (Single Deezer track, single DLNA track or full album) to the Moment's NPQ have the same logic: track(s) are added after the latest played track of the NPQ, independently of the presence of other tracks which can result in a big mess is you don't fully listen to albums you have loaded ....

Other products behave as above.

 

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jvezina replied on Wed, Jul 3 2019 3:19 PM

MrAndersen:

jvezina: we have made the text input but decided to to release it yet. The LG part is very inconsistent in where this works and where it doesn't

If the text input works for the search tool of the TV built-in media player (videos and music) , the built-in web browser, all the internal menus,  and Youtube, that would be fine for me. Just put an explanatory text saying that the text input may not work at all places.

Regards,

Jean

 

 

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