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My set up:
BV10-46, all speakers connected to the TV. BS5 connected with ML to BV10.PS3 & Mac connected to the TV
Problem is:
Sometimes I can change volume on the BS5, sometimes not.
Sometimes when I change source from CD to TV the CD stops and BS5 goes black (as should)
Sometimes when I change source from CD to TV the CD continues..
I does not matter if it is radio or cd - to tv/ dvd/v.mem.
Very irritating! I have spoken to my dealer (they are a bit tired of me since I was not to satisfied with the tv and bs5 in the beginning). Anyhow, I spoke to them and they said that it was/is software failure and that the problem will continue until B&O release a new software..
I had the same setup with my first BV10 and a BC2 - that worked like a charm!
Anyone experience the same ? Any suggestions of solutions?
I have a Beosound 5, Beosound 3000, and Beovision 10-40 in the same room connected by Masterlink. They are also connected to a Beovision 7-55 in another room. I have not noticed any of these problems.
Beolab 28s Beolab 9s Beolab 12-3s Beolab 1s Beolab 6000s 2 pairs Beolab 4000s Beovision 7-55 Beovision 10-40 Beoplay V1 32 inch Beovision Avant 32 inch Beosound 1 (CD player) Beosound 3000 Beosound 5 Core Essence MKII Beoplay M5
As for link room, BV7 is the video master, BV10 is the slave. I have used the timer in the BV7 but only for music from the Beosound 5 and with the intention that both rooms turn on.
Perhaps it is time to talk to my dealer and see if he has a BV7-40 in store so I can trade in my BV10-46. So the system can work as intended.. A bit smaller picture and a thicker tv.. My Mrs said that Im an idiot for even thinking that way..
In my book this has to be a known problem at B&O and they shuld make an effort in solving the problems either by trading in the tv for another one or solving the problem. Now when the TV is out of production there will not be anymore updates.. It is a pity that I did not know this in advance, then I would have selected anther tv than the BV10. I still love it, it looks great on our livingroom wall. But the problems - it should not be this type of problems with such expensive piece of equipment..
Another way of solving this types of problems is if the sales guys have more knowledge about the systems and can recommend "the right" product for their customers..
I know I can be picky..
Razlaw:I tried the radio programming as you asked. It worked fine. Radio turned on each time to programmed station, not the previous station. Programming was set so that only the speakers connected to the BV10 turned on. Those connected to the BV 7 did not turn. I tested with having the timer turn on channel 1, then I turned it off and had timer turn on channel 2. I also selected a channel with the Beo 4, turned off with the Beo 4 and then had timer turn on to a different channel. Also had timer turn radio on in BV10 room while BV7 was turned on to DTV. DTV continued playing on the BV7, radio turned on in other room and to proper, different channel, than when it was last turned off.
I tested with having the timer turn on channel 1, then I turned it off and had timer turn on channel 2. I also selected a channel with the Beo 4, turned off with the Beo 4 and then had timer turn on to a different channel. Also had timer turn radio on in BV10 room while BV7 was turned on to DTV. DTV continued playing on the BV7, radio turned on in other room and to proper, different channel, than when it was last turned off.
Hi Razlaw,
I am surprised that the radio programming works properly with your equipment. With my equipment the correct radio station turns on only if I let execute the timer by BV 7 or Beolink passive, but not by BV 10.
Probably BS 9000 ist the reason for the behavior, because you have a BS 3000.
I discovered the following behavior that might be the reason for the timer problem:
If all units are in standby and I press directly a station number on Beo4 (RADIO must be shown in display), my BS 9000 turns on with this station number if I do so with my BV 7. If I do so with my BV 10, BS 9000 doesn´t turn on with this station number, but with the last radio station selected before. What happens if you press directly a radio station number on Beo4?
BTW: Which software do you have on BV 10 (I have build 227 and system module 50.06a)?
Regards
Räuber
Pressing nothing other than the station number, with Radio in the Beo 4 display results in the BV7 turning on to the last number, and the BV10 will not turn on at all. I only had a moment to try this morning before going to work. I will double check tonight and try to find the software number. I am forgetting the exact method right now of bringing it up. It will take me a few trys to get it right.
Razlaw:I looked at your other problem in the other thread. I see you are using link tv. I do not use link tv so don't have any knowledge of that. Here in the US we do not have the ability to send tv picture/sound to a link tv. Thus my BV10 functions when I press DTV and it has its own satellite box connected to it.
for me the behavior is very annoying: If I press CD in linkroom (BV 10), I can hear CD from BS 9000 in linkroom. If I press then for instance DVD, I can watch a DVD from BV 7 on BV 10, but the CD is still working in BS 9000. If I press then STANDBY, BV 7 with DVD goes in standby, but still not BS 9000! So it happens that CD is workink the whole night long!
If you press LINK-AV (via LIST) DTV, can you hear the sound of BV 7 on your BV 10 (V.OPT = 6)?
Razlaw: Pressing nothing other than the station number, with Radio in the Beo 4 display results in the BV7 turning on to the last number, and the BV10 will not turn on at all. I only had a moment to try this morning before going to work. I will double check tonight and try to find the software number. I am forgetting the exact method right now of bringing it up. It will take me a few trys to get it right.
Please try it with your Beo4 and BV 7 and then with Beo 4 and BV 10. In my setup, with BV 7 the BS 9000 turns on with the selected radio station and with BV 10 it turns on with the LAST radio station.
You can find the software versions by pressing MENU, then mark OPTIONS, and then press 0 0 GO. Now the service menue will appear and software versions are shown under MONITOR, MONITOR INFORMATION.
If I press CD in my link room, BV10, and then switch to DTV, (I do not have a DVD in link room) Beosound 3000 turns off.
As for the LINK-AV, yes it works. I did not know that was possible. I was able to get both the sound from DTV on the BV7 and from the Oppo BlueRay connected to the BV7 in the link room through the BV10 and speakers attached to it. Switching to Radio in link room resulted in radio playing in link room and other source remaining on in other room. Switching to Link-AV source caused the link source to begin playing and Beosound 3000 to turn off and go dark.
With Radio displayed on Beo 4, and pressing nothing but a number button, BV7 turns on to selected channel, BV10 does not turn on.
Software version on BV10 if I am reading right numbers
Build 210
PW328 4.40a
FEP 4.36c
FEP Bootloader 00.03b
Razlaw:With Radio displayed on Beo 4, and pressing nothing but a number button, BV7 turns on to selected channel, BV10 does not turn on. Software version on BV10 if I am reading right numbers Build 210 PW328 4.40a FEP 4.36c FEP Bootloader 00.03b
Razlaw:If I press CD in my link room, BV10, and then switch to DTV, (I do not have a DVD in link room) Beosound 3000 turns off.
Razlaw: As for the LINK-AV, yes it works. I did not know that was possible. I was able to get both the sound from DTV on the BV7 and from the Oppo BlueRay connected to the BV7 in the link room through the BV10 and speakers attached to it. Switching to Radio in link room resulted in radio playing in link room and other source remaining on in other room. Switching to Link-AV source caused the link source to begin playing and Beosound 3000 to turn off and go dark.
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Raeuber: Razlaw: If you heard radio with BV 10, then standby, RADIO is displayed on Beo4. And if you then press only a number on Beo4, nothing happens, nor radio with the selected channel nor with the previous channel? If so, it might depend on software build 210 (actual is 227). /Räuber
Razlaw:
If you heard radio with BV 10, then standby, RADIO is displayed on Beo4. And if you then press only a number on Beo4, nothing happens, nor radio with the selected channel nor with the previous channel? If so, it might depend on software build 210 (actual is 227).
/Räuber
1. press radio in room with BV10. Radio turns on.
2. press standby, all turns off.
3. press number on Beo 4, i.e. 1, 2 nothing happens.
Must press Radio again to turn on.
Raeuber: Razlaw: If I press CD in my link room, BV10, and then switch to DTV, (I do not have a DVD in link room) Beosound 3000 turns off. Yes, that's ok, because with DTV you switch to a video source of BV 10, and therefore Beosound 3000 has to turn off. Same with my BS 9000. The problem appears if I switch to a video source of BV 7 (for example LINK DTV), then my BS 9000 doesn't turn off (but it should also turn off).
Razlaw: If I press CD in my link room, BV10, and then switch to DTV, (I do not have a DVD in link room) Beosound 3000 turns off.
Yes, that's ok, because with DTV you switch to a video source of BV 10, and therefore Beosound 3000 has to turn off. Same with my BS 9000. The problem appears if I switch to a video source of BV 7 (for example LINK DTV), then my BS 9000 doesn't turn off (but it should also turn off).
Using the Link-AV function I can access the audio from my Oppo BlueRay which is in the other room with the BV7. I think this isimilar to the situation where you are having the problem? The BV10 then plays the Audio from the BlueRay player. If I have the radio on and switch to Link-AV DVD the sound from the Oppo plays in the BV10 room and the Beosound 3000 does shut down completely just as it is suppose to.
Yes you are correct, but I do not get any sound. Everything (10 and connected speakers) turns on and the BV7 says it has switched to DTV but no sound plays from 10 when I do Link-AV DTV. I do get sound if the from the 10 if the 7 is on.
Razlaw:1. press radio in room with BV10. Radio turns on. 2. press standby, all turns off. 3. press number on Beo 4, i.e. 1, 2 nothing happens. Must press Radio again to turn on.
Razlaw:Using the Link-AV function I can access the audio from my Oppo BlueRay which is in the other room with the BV7. I think this isimilar to the situation where you are having the problem? The BV10 then plays the Audio from the BlueRay player. If I have the radio on and switch to Link-AV DVD the sound from the Oppo plays in the BV10 room and the Beosound 3000 does shut down completely just as it is suppose to.
Razlaw: Yes you are correct, but I do not get any sound. Everything (10 and connected speakers) turns on and the BV7 says it has switched to DTV but no sound plays from 10 when I do Link-AV DTV. I do get sound if the from the 10 if the 7 is on.
Ok, with LINK-AV DTV you only get the sound if BV 7 is on, because the source connected to BV 7 (DTV = satellite box) is only connected digital (HDMI) and not additional analogue (Scart). If you connect the source also via Scart, you will get the sound from BV 10 also if BV 7 is off.
BTW: If you connect your satellite box not only via HDMI but also via Scart to BV 7 (if your satellite box has also Scart output), you will be able to send picture to link tv (BV 10). I have done so with my Technisat receiver, so I can watch recordings stored on Technisat receiver in link room (BV 10). Of course you will need an antenna cable between BV 7 and BV 10 and the RF LINK converter.
Hello Razlaw,
now here are the final tests you could please reproduce (starting situation: All in standby; all commands with Beo4 on BV 10):
1.
- Press RADIO: You will hear radio from BS 3000 through speakers connected to BV 10
- Press LINK DTV: You will get no sound, but BV 7 says it has switched to DTV
Question: Did BS 3000 turned off now? It should do so, but my BS 9000 is still ON!
- Press STANDBY: BV 7 turns off (DTV in BV 7 display disappears)
Question: If BS 3000 didn´t turn off before, is it still ON?
2.
Question: Did BV 7 turned off now (DTV in BV 7 display disappears)? It should do so, but my BV 7 is still ON!
- Press STANDBY: BS 3000 turns off
Question: If BV 7 didn´t turn off before, is it still ON (DTV in BV 7 display)?
3.
- Press LINK-AV DTV: You will still get no sound (because your DTV source is only connected via HDMI)
- Press STANDBY
Question: Is DTV still shown in display of BV 7 or did it turn off (red standby light)? It should turn off, but my BV 7 still shows DTV in display!
Thank you very much for your support!
Raeuber: Hello Razlaw, now here are the final tests you could please reproduce (starting situation: All in standby; all commands with Beo4 on BV 10): 1. - Press RADIO: You will hear radio from BS 3000 through speakers connected to BV 10 - Press LINK DTV: You will get no sound, but BV 7 says it has switched to DTV Question: Did BS 3000 turned off now? It should do so, but my BS 9000 is still ON! - Press STANDBY: BV 7 turns off (DTV in BV 7 display disappears) Question: If BS 3000 didn´t turn off before, is it still ON? 2. - Press LINK DTV: You will get no sound, but BV 7 says it has switched to DTV - Press RADIO: You will hear radio from BS 3000 through speakers connected to BV 10 Question: Did BV 7 turned off now (DTV in BV 7 display disappears)? It should do so, but my BV 7 is still ON! - Press STANDBY: BS 3000 turns off Question: If BV 7 didn´t turn off before, is it still ON (DTV in BV 7 display)? 3. - Press LINK DTV: You will get no sound, but BV 7 says it has switched to DTV - Press LINK-AV DTV: You will still get no sound (because your DTV source is only connected via HDMI) - Press STANDBY Question: Is DTV still shown in display of BV 7 or did it turn off (red standby light)? It should turn off, but my BV 7 still shows DTV in display! Thank you very much for your support! Regards Räuber
Test 1 Pressing Link DTV has no effect. Nothing happens.
Test 2 Pressing Link DTV has no effect. Nothing happens.
Test 3 Pressing Link DTV has no effect. Nothing happens.
Test 1 Pressing Link-AV DTV : Radio Turns Radio On, Link-AV DTV turns radio and Beosound 3000 OFF, light is OFF. BV7 displays DTV. No sound from BV10.
Test 2 Pressing Link-AV DTV turns on BV10, BV7 displays DTV, no sound. Press Radio, radio plays from BV10, BV7 turns off. Press Standby, BV10 and Beosound 3000 turn OFF, light on Beosound 3000 is OFF.
Test 3 Pressing Link DTV has no effect. Nothing happens. Pressing Link-AV DTV turns BV10 on, BV7 displays DTV. No sound. Standby results in all turning off.
A couple comments. BV7 does not display DTV, it displays Dish Sat as I renamed it for purposes of display, but that is just nomenclature.
Also, note that if the BV7 is turned on when I us the Link-AV function on the BV10, the sound from the video source connected to the BV7 is transmitted via Masterlink to the BV10, which recognizes it as an audio only source as the motorized stand does not turn to a video position.
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your BV 7 is in V.OPT = 2 and BV 10 in V.OPT = 6, correct?
The reason why LINK command doesn´t work on your BV 10 might be: On BV 7 the POWER SAVING modus (OPTIONS / STANDBY SETTINGS) has to be set to OFF?
So I hope the LINK commands (LINK DTV, LINK DVD, LINK VMEM, LINK TV) will work now (by pressing LIST on Beo4 until LINK appears in display and then DTV, DVD, VMEM or TV).
Raeuber:First of all: The motorized stand will NEVER turn to any position if you send a command from a linkroom. It also will NEVER turn if a timer is executed directly on BV 7. This is because of security: Christmas tree beside BV 7 and a turning motorized stand when you are not present!
Not always true. I have done some playing around with option settings in an effort to get the timer on the BV7 to turn on the BV10 to DTV where the two are linked only by MasterLink. If I set both the 7 and the 10 to option 2, the timer in the 7 will turn the 10 on AND the motorized stand on the 10 turns it to the video position. When the timer turns it off, the motorized stand returns to standby position. You are correct that the 7 does not turn when activated by a timer.
Of course as there is no video connection between the two, just Masterlink, there is no image on the 10 as a result of the timer. However, this problem is solved as the 10 has its own satellite box with a timer so the satellite box is merely programmed to turn on and select a channel at same time as BV7 sends turn on command to the BV10. In that way it is possible to have the BV7 turn both TVs on and off at set times with both TVS displaying the chosen channel.
Raeuber: Hi Razlaw, your BV 7 is in V.OPT = 2 and BV 10 in V.OPT = 6, correct? The reason why LINK command doesn´t work on your BV 10 might be: On BV 7 the POWER SAVING modus (OPTIONS / STANDBY SETTINGS) has to be set to OFF? So I hope the LINK commands (LINK DTV, LINK DVD, LINK VMEM, LINK TV) will work now (by pressing LIST on Beo4 until LINK appears in display and then DTV, DVD, VMEM or TV). Regards Räuber
Correct, BV7 is in V. Opt 2 and BV10 is V. Opt 6.
Standby settings were to turn off after 2 hours. I changed it to "OFF". Link still does not work.
Link-AV still works to turn the BV10, and display the appropriate source on the BV7 and turn on the connected device, such as the Oppo connected to the BV7 but no sound is transmitted. If the BV7 is then turned on the sound also begins on the BV10.
Razlaw: Raeuber: Hi Razlaw, your BV 7 is in V.OPT = 2 and BV 10 in V.OPT = 6, correct? The reason why LINK command doesn´t work on your BV 10 might be: On BV 7 the POWER SAVING modus (OPTIONS / STANDBY SETTINGS) has to be set to OFF? So I hope the LINK commands (LINK DTV, LINK DVD, LINK VMEM, LINK TV) will work now (by pressing LIST on Beo4 until LINK appears in display and then DTV, DVD, VMEM or TV). Regards Räuber Correct, BV7 is in V. Opt 2 and BV10 is V. Opt 6. Standby settings were to turn off after 2 hours. I changed it to "OFF". Link still does not work. Link-AV still works to turn the BV10, and display the appropriate source on the BV7 and turn on the connected device, such as the Oppo connected to the BV7 but no sound is transmitted. If the BV7 is then turned on the sound also begins on the BV10.
I didn´t meant the STANDBY SETTINGS on BV 7, but the POWER SAVING, which has to be set to OFF. If OFF, the red LED lights up in standby. If it´s set to OFF the LINK command should work, if not I have no further idea.
As I mentioned before, you will hear the sound of your Oppo although BV 7 is off if you connect the Oppo also analogue (via Scart or Cinch) to BV 7 (if Oppo has analogue output).
Razlaw: Not always true. I have done some playing around with option settings in an effort to get the timer on the BV7 to turn on the BV10 to DTV where the two are linked only by MasterLink. If I set both the 7 and the 10 to option 2, the timer in the 7 will turn the 10 on AND the motorized stand on the 10 turns it to the video position. When the timer turns it off, the motorized stand returns to standby position. You are correct that the 7 does not turn when activated by a timer.
Very interesting, I cannot check this, because my BV 10 is wall-mounted.
Razlaw: Of course as there is no video connection between the two, just Masterlink, there is no image on the 10 as a result of the timer. However, this problem is solved as the 10 has its own satellite box with a timer so the satellite box is merely programmed to turn on and select a channel at same time as BV7 sends turn on command to the BV10. In that way it is possible to have the BV7 turn both TVs on and off at set times with both TVS displaying the chosen channel.
Very clever. But setting both TVs to option 2 is no "official" solution from B&O, because this way you have two video masters in your setup.
I know it is not an "official" solution. But, what is the harm? it works.
Also, I do not have a power saving function that I can find. All I have is 2, 4, and 6 hours and OFF under standby settings as you initially directed me to.
Where would the power saving function be if I do have it?
Yes, you are correct. I have a MK1 7-55.