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Bang & Olufsen App 3.00 prod/beta

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mbolo01:

I confirm and I have added the issue to the list.

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Hi mbolo01,

Yesterday I’ve reported the following problem via the beta feedback option in TestFlight:

During DLNA playback in the app to my BV Eclipse the “shuffle” and “repeat” buttons are not working.

I don’t think that it’s the same product problem that was fixed some time ago, because playback stops when the play queue is empty.

I will inform you when / if I receive any feedback from B&O.

Best regards - Dyssegaard

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mbolo01 replied on Mon, Mar 30 2020 9:21 PM
Dyssegaard:

I will inform you when / if I receive any feedback from B&O.

Thanks. I have tested the scenario against my Core and my BS 1 and both random and loop are working.

I’ll add the issue to another thread I started for version 3.1.

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Hi

Can confirm this bug with lack of virtual keyboard for the  Beoplay V1 and Beovision 11 when a menu where text input is required is encountered, e.g. channel name and WIFI password

This is crucial for my Beoplay V1 as the infrared receiver is dead (Also known bug on this TV).

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Hi

Can confirm this bug with lack of virtual keyboard for the  Beoplay V1 and Beovision 11 when a menu where text input is required is encountered, e.g. channel name and WIFI password

This is crucial for my Beoplay V1 as the infrared receiver is dead (Also known bug on this TV).

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mbolo01:

Beobuddy:

No, I didn’t. Be my quest. 

Done. B&O Answer: will be part of 3.2 release.

 

 

Update: (for the iPad version)

-They've added an extra context menu when you tap the original standby icon in the product list. You will be asked whether you want to set the complete setup in standby or just the product you've selected. So there's not an extra standby icon, but an added context menu. 

 

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mbolo01 replied on Sun, May 3 2020 9:22 PM

Beobuddy:

Update: (for the iPad version)

-They've added an extra context menu when you tap the original standby icon in the product list. You will be asked whether you want to set the complete setup in standby or just the product you've selected. So there's not an extra standby icon, but an added context menu. 

Correct, I already updated this issue status in a more recent thread about B&O App 3.2 version  https://archivedforum2.beoworld.org/forums/t/41967.aspx

 

 

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Not sure this is the he latest thread on the b&o app?

There is something that truly confuses me and hope is just a mistake on my end?

Is there any menu where i can see what device is playing what? I’m streaming two different streams to two devices and then extend them to others. It works, but then turns into guessing when i’d like to stop the stream as i don’t remember what was the lead speaker of the second stream.

Also, i don’t think i can pause the stream of the lead speaker without stopping the stream for the rest?
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Carolpa replied on Mon, Oct 5 2020 5:54 AM

steve1977:
Is there any menu where i can see what device is playing what? I’m streaming two different streams to two devices and then extend them to others. It works, but then turns into guessing when i’d like to stop the stream as i don’t remember what was the lead speaker of the second stream.
you can see it on the home menu. if you tab a device, the joined devices in one group are all greyed. tab a white device with the joined icon than the other group is greyed.

It works but I prefer the way Beoliving is showing the difference groups though.

Another inprovement would be: Standby for a Linked Group

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mbolo01 replied on Mon, Oct 5 2020 8:13 AM
steve1977:

Also, i don’t think i can pause the stream of the lead speaker without stopping the stream for the rest?

You cannot. With the App, pausing the lead pauses the group.

But from the physical device itself, or from a remote paired to the lead speaker, pausing the lead with a tap does not stop the other member(s) of the group.

Interesting test for Halo users as for me the Halo is closer to the app than other remotes.

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ngnear replied on Mon, Oct 5 2020 8:23 AM
I am not at home so can’t verify exactly which menus, but from memory after selecting a device you can bring up the control screen with the volume circle. On the right hand side there is either a join icon (or is it the 3 dots?)

There you can see the multiroom group and add or remove devices, and also change each volume individually.

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mbolo01 replied on Mon, Oct 5 2020 8:24 AM
steve1977:

Is there any menu where i can see what device is playing what?

No, there is no place where you can see all currently playing devices, what they are playing and if they are part of a multiroom group.

As Carolpa wrote, from the main menu you can tap on devices with multiroom icon to identify the grouping, read the bottom of the screen to see what’s playing for that group and tap the multiroom icon to figure who is the lead.

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Carolpa replied on Mon, Oct 5 2020 8:43 AM

@steve1977

another way of putting this question: get the needle of the record in the main room's phono and ask yourself if you can hear the record in another, linked, room. 

note: when joining you always listen to the main device of a group; changing the source on the main device, the rest will follow.

What you can do though is: mute the sound of the "group leader" or put the group leader in std.by.

 

@mbolo01

it works like the app, but also as the remotes. I do not see differences or did I miss something?

 

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Carolpa replied on Mon, Oct 5 2020 8:46 AM

mbolo01:
read the bottom of the screen to see what’s playing for that group
Normally you will see there the group leader also

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mbolo01 replied on Mon, Oct 5 2020 9:14 AM

Carolpa:

mbolo01:
read the bottom of the screen to see what’s playing for that group

Normally you will see there the group leader also

Correct, while it is not clearly written, you realize it is the lead speaker as when tapping on other group member, the bottom of the screen still shows the lead speaker, v.s the multiroom screen where the lead speaker it is clearly identified.

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mbolo01 replied on Mon, Oct 5 2020 9:24 AM

Carolpa:

@mbolo01

it works like the app, but also as the remotes. I do not see differences or did I miss something?

I see two different behaviors:

Assume speaker A is the lead, A is streaming an internet radio, B has joined and is streaming the same.

- If I press II (pause/stop) in the App for the lead speaker, streaming pauses/stops for all speakers of the multiroom group

- If I tap on A, or if I tap on the black button of the Essence remote paired with A , A mutes and B continues playing

 

 

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Carolpa replied on Mon, Oct 5 2020 9:46 AM

mbolo01:
Carolpa:
@mbolo01

it works like the app, but also as the remotes. I do not see differences or did I miss something?

I see two different behaviors:

Assume speaker A is the lead, A is streaming an internet radio, B has joined and is streaming the same.

- If I press II (pause/stop) in the App for the lead speaker, streaming pauses/stops for all speakers of the multiroom group

- If I tap on A, or if I tap on the black button of the Essence remote paired with A , A mutes and B continues playing

Isn't this normal behaviour? One is pausing the source from the group leader from playing, the other is muting or putting the device in stb.by. 

 

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Carolpa replied on Mon, Oct 5 2020 9:49 AM

mbolo01:
Correct, while it is not clearly written, you realize it is the lead speaker as when tapping on other group member, the bottom of the screen still shows the lead speaker, v.s the multiroom screen where the lead speaker it is clearly identified.
maybe a point for improvement of the app: enhance this black info ribbon. 

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mbolo01 replied on Mon, Oct 5 2020 10:40 AM

Carolpa:

Isn't this normal behaviour? One is pausing the source from the group leader from playing, the other is muting or putting the device in stb.by. 

It is surely normal behavior, but strange that the app does not offer the same option than the physical or remote, other than reducing the volume of the lead speaker through the multiroom page screen.

I was originally answering to the OP about his concern of pausing the lead speaker that would pause the members too, as I think he would like a way for the members to continue playing. Only a physical product tap or remote tap can achieve it in a simple way as far as I know.

 

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mbolo01 replied on Mon, Oct 5 2020 11:08 AM
ngnear:

I am not at home so can’t verify exactly which menus, but from memory after selecting a device you can bring up the control screen with the volume circle. On the right hand side there is either a join icon (or is it the 3 dots?)

There you can see the multiroom group and add or remove devices, and also change each volume individually.

Tim

Correct - It is the multiroom icon

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Thanks for all your replies. A few thoughts:

1) Wouldn’t the main page benefit from having some form of indication what the “lead speakers” are? How do you figure this out when you have 3+ speakers in your home setup? Or even more confusing when you have two streams (= two lead speakers)

2) I have two BS1 (both mk2 and both gva). However, they are actually different. One has a white light in the middle of the top that lids up when joining. The other doesn’t have this. I don’t think it’s a bug, but a development over time.

3) My issue with not being able to join was a result of weak wifi. If the wifi is weak (orange or red light), it doesn’t allow to join streams. No idea why the wifi is weak as it sits closely next to an airport extreme. Only if hard-wired, it turns white. Any experience of others how to have stable wifi for the BS1?

4) The touch feature seems inconsistent. I don’t experience what others describe. One touch gives me a pause (if done on lead speaker, all speakers pause). I don’t know whether there is a way to “mute” instead of pause. Also, i haven’t found a way to “pause all”, but only to “stand by all”, which is different.
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mbolo01 replied on Tue, Oct 6 2020 8:43 AM
steve1977:

Thanks for all your replies. A few thoughts:

1) Wouldn’t the main page benefit from having some form of indication what the “lead speakers” are? How do you figure this out when you have 3+ speakers in your home setup? Or even more confusing when you have two streams (= two lead speakers)

As already answered, if a product is part of a multiroom group, tapping on it will highlight the other members of the group (greyed) and the lead speaker will appear at the bottom as well as the playing source for this group. The UI could handle this better for sure, but that’s all we have for now.

steve1977:

3) My issue with not being able to join was a result of weak wifi. If the wifi is weak (orange or red light), it doesn’t allow to join streams. No idea why the wifi is weak as it sits closely next to an airport extreme. Only if hard-wired, it turns white. Any experience of others how to have stable wifi for the BS1?

Being too close is not a warranty of good signal. I would try to move it farer as a test.

Depending on your WiFi setup, it may also have chosen another WiFi access point which may not be the best choice.

What is the WiFi signal quality exposed by your BS1 in the app or the configuration screen?

steve1977:

4) The touch feature seems inconsistent. I don’t experience what others describe. One touch gives me a pause (if done on lead speaker, all speakers pause). I don’t know whether there is a way to “mute” instead of pause. Also, i haven’t found a way to “pause all”, but only to “stand by all”, which is different.

Strange indeed, maybe a different logic based on the product generation, but I doubt as it should be software driven.

My BS1 mk1 physical control behaves the same as the Essence remote (described in the other thread you are participating )

If I send an AirPlay flow to my BS1, expand to another product via NL multiroom, tapping on top of the BS1 mutes it and the other product still plays, tapping again unmute the BS1.

If there is no multiroom engaged, tapping on the BS1 pauses the AP flow, tapping again resumes the AP flow, both with the 2 seconds delay that is a sign of a basic AP 2 integration.

That said, on my side i cannot PAUSE with physical controls,the only way is to stand by all, including other potential running products not part of the multiroom group, or to use the source app or the B&O app.

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mbolo01:
Being too close is not a warranty of good signal. I would try to move it farer as a test.

Depending on your WiFi setup, it may also have chosen another WiFi access point which may not be the best choice.

What is the WiFi signal quality exposed by your BS1 in the app or the configuration screen?

I tried all kind of distances to the airports. All non-B&O devices work very well over iphone (Apple TV, iphones, ipads, notebooks).

I can check later what signal strength is shown. But it's not an issue of my home network, but a B&O issue (only impacted devices).

I believe I used to set a fixed IP address, which may help solve the issue? I can look into this. Any other thoughts appreciated!

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mbolo01 replied on Tue, Oct 6 2020 3:12 PM
Also if you could run the Wireless Network Analysis from your product and share the output by MP if you need help to interpret it.

Apple devices always work fine with Apple Airports, not always the case with non Apple devices, trust me ...

Fixed IP, while being a good thing (I have that for all my speakers), will not help on this front unless you have set the same for two different devices which could produce big disorder, but I doubt it is the case.

Sample Wireless Analysis Screen:

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Thanks for your help.

Some progress!

Two devices (right next to each other) connect with different airports. So, I assume that the one with poor connectivity connects with an airport that is more distanced.

Any idea why this is happening?

Also, I am surprised that I see 4 airports showing up (3 on channel 11, 1 on channel 132). I only have 3 airports, so quite surprised to see 4. Also any thoughts on this?

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mbolo01 replied on Tue, Oct 6 2020 4:12 PM

steve1977:

Also, I am surprised that I see 4 airports showing up (3 on channel 11, 1 on channel 132). I only have 3 airports, so quite surprised to see 4. Also any thoughts on this?

Without seeing the output, and without knowing your environment, i.e. if there are neighbors WiFi polluting your environment, I can guess that 2 AP have only 2.4 GHz set, or have 5 GHZ set with another name, and one AP has both 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz (channel 132).

In the output, you should also look at the strength value of the Access point which is a network quality indicator: under 20 it's not really good, above 40 it is very good.

Why a device connects to an AP instead of another? I guess (again) that is depends of which one responded first with decent quality, or if a previously connected AP has been off which triggered a reconnection to another AP, etc .... I usually restart my products post WiFi AP restart to make sure that the best one will be chosen.

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mbolo01 replied on Sat, Oct 10 2020 8:22 AM
steve1977:

Also any thoughts on this?

Any findings ?

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steve1977 replied on Sat, Oct 10 2020 9:42 AM
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Thanks for following up and sorry for not reporting back earlier. I’ll still need to do some more troubleshooting. The good news is that yet another factory reset got things working. Still orange, but not red anymore. I’ll look more into it.
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Fansastic replied on Sat, Oct 17 2020 12:54 PM
I just switched to 3.7.0 beta version and app keeps crashing. Anyone having the same problem. I’m using iPhone iOS 14.0.01

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mbolo01 replied on Sat, Oct 17 2020 2:41 PM

Fansastic:
I just switched to 3.7.0 beta version and app keeps crashing. Anyone having the same problem. I’m using iPhone iOS 14.0.01

Public version 3.7.2 is ahead from the latest available beta and works well with IOS 14.0.1

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I’ll switch to the released version. in my case the main problem is that with an iPad I can use the volume hardware buttons to change volume, with iPhone the volume button doesn’t work. Otherwise, beta has been quite solid for me. So much so that I end up using the App vs. Essence remote or even AirPlay most of the time.

B&O in my life 😊: 

 

  • Beolab 8002 + Beolab 2 + Beosound Core with Essence Remote (Office)
  • Beolab 6000 + Beolab 11 + Beosound Core with Essence Remote (Bedroom)
  • Beoplay A9 Mk2 (Living Room)
  • Beosound 1 with wireless dock (Portable)
  • Beosound Balance (Dining)
  • Beoplay H95 (Focused listening, travel)
  • Beoplay H9 (3rd gen) (retired)
  • Beoplay P6 (Portable)
  • Beotime wall clock (hallway entrance)
  • BMW X5 50i with B&O Audio Package (Commute/drive)

 

 

 

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mbolo01 replied on Sat, Oct 17 2020 11:34 PM
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with iPhone the volume button doesn’t work

Did you configure that option? This is not a default setting.

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mbolo01 replied on Wed, Nov 4 2020 3:26 PM
Interesting typo .... I hope my BG 4002 will be supported in coming releases Big Smile

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Interesting so the new TV will support app control

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mbolo01 replied on Wed, Nov 4 2020 3:39 PM
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Interesting so the new TV will support app control

Eclipse 65 V1-32 Beosound M5 Essence MK2 BLI

Yep

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mbolo01 replied on Wed, Nov 4 2020 3:41 PM
And it looks like the sound bar (Stage?) is required for that:

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Once again the beta version is not up to date with the production version.

Oh - why, guys?

(Do they want us to stop being beta testers?).

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mbolo01 replied on Wed, Nov 4 2020 4:35 PM

Sorry guys, I mistakenly updated this old thread, it should be considered as CLOSED

Live thread here: https://archivedforum2.beoworld.org/forums/t/41967.aspx

 

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