ARCHIVED FORUM -- March 2012 to February 2022READ ONLY FORUM
This is the second Archived Forum which was active between 1st March 2012 and 23rd February 2022
beojeff: mbolo01:As an early BS Moment adopter, I’ll wait for Halo software v 2.x before considering it ... I often get the feeling that BeoSound Moment is to B&O what Jar Jar Binks is to George Lucas. It's a mistake they wish to erase from memory.
mbolo01:As an early BS Moment adopter, I’ll wait for Halo software v 2.x before considering it ...
I often get the feeling that BeoSound Moment is to B&O what Jar Jar Binks is to George Lucas. It's a mistake they wish to erase from memory.
I see some hope here: https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWars/comments/3qvj6w/theory_jar_jar_binks_was_a_trained_force_user/
BS Moment, BS Core, BG 4002, BC 4500, BS1, BL18, BL19, BL8000 + RCV1, A6, M5, M3, A1, P6 (tks Botty), H5, TR1
carlito: mbolo01: The Balance is not a NL product as such, it has no music service such as Deezer, TuneIn or DLNA, it is "just" a BT,CC,AP2 and Spotify speaker. Maybe all or some of the current NL products + Balance will be updated one day to share the same new platform, and the Halo will be able to control all. This is not true. The Balance has Spotify and TuneIn integrated, but it can (at the moment) only be controlled via voice command and not by the app... My dealer told me that the HALO update will be available beginning of 2021
mbolo01: The Balance is not a NL product as such, it has no music service such as Deezer, TuneIn or DLNA, it is "just" a BT,CC,AP2 and Spotify speaker. Maybe all or some of the current NL products + Balance will be updated one day to share the same new platform, and the Halo will be able to control all.
The Balance is not a NL product as such, it has no music service such as Deezer, TuneIn or DLNA, it is "just" a BT,CC,AP2 and Spotify speaker.
Maybe all or some of the current NL products + Balance will be updated one day to share the same new platform, and the Halo will be able to control all.
This is not true. The Balance has Spotify and TuneIn integrated, but it can (at the moment) only be controlled via voice command and not by the app...
My dealer told me that the HALO update will be available beginning of 2021
The Balance only has Spotify/TuneIn because it is GA.
Not updating the Balance would be kind of stupid, now that they just released a pure NL-controller.
MM
There is a tv - and there is a BV
carlito: This is not true. The Balance has Spotify and TuneIn integrated, but it can (at the moment) only be controlled via voice command and not by the app...
Tunein via Chromecast correct? Like any Chromecast aware app. You can ask to play Deezer on the Balance too via CC which does not mean that Deezer is an integrated music service within the Balance like it is in most of all the other NL products.
Millemissen: Not updating the Balance would be kind of stupid, now that they just released a pure NL-controller.
Totally agree. Perplexing. If I'd just bought a Balance to work alongside my Edge, BeoSound 2 and Stage, I'd be pretty perplexed if I went and bought the Halo and it didn't support the latest speaker.
Waiting on SandyB's report with bated breath. It will make or break my Halo purchase.
I think there is some sort of licensing problem for Spotify streaming that prevents it from working with NL (old devices can do that)
Many recent products lost the Spotify Direct Integration and at least on my part I want that since I can play music without bugging down my phone or ipad.
When I looked for a new speaker some time back I complained about that since Spotify and Apple Music are the leading services and the Spotify Direct was working really well for me.
So I think the Balance was their answer for that problem with its limitations.
Cheers
JK
Michael:For about half the price I get an iPad mini with a processor probably thousands times faster than this choppy device that seemingly has cut corners everywhere except for its halo
mbolo01: beojeff: mbolo01:As an early BS Moment adopter, I’ll wait for Halo software v 2.x before considering it ... I often get the feeling that BeoSound Moment is to B&O what Jar Jar Binks is to George Lucas. It's a mistake they wish to erase from memory. I see some hope here: https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWars/comments/3qvj6w/theory_jar_jar_binks_was_a_trained_force_user/
It now makes so much more sense to think of the Moment as a knowing Sith collaborator!
I find it quite bizarre that the Halo will not support the products the App does. Yes I realise it's a start, however (as beojeff) as a BS Moment Adopter it makes me nervous that they didn't have a base functionality launch with at least the current NL and new non-NL products. Basically anything in the current App should be supported by Halo. Yes I know they've killed NL, but the way they're releasing products half complete, and then not completing them is rather worrying. Also the whole premise of B&O, keeping it and adding to your collection, is rapidly going down the toilet bowl. Again I understand this from the throw it out and buy new every couple of years, but really? I need to start buying Lotto tickets to adopt that approach.
jk1002: I think there is some sort of licensing problem for Spotify streaming that prevents it from working with NL (old devices can do that) Many recent products lost the Spotify Direct Integration and at least on my part I want that since I can play music without bugging down my phone or ipad. When I looked for a new speaker some time back I complained about that since Spotify and Apple Music are the leading services and the Spotify Direct was working really well for me. So I think the Balance was their answer for that problem with its limitations. Cheers JK
Within NL you can redirect a Spotify Connect stream to any B&O product, that supports Spotify Connect*
I do that everyday from my Essence MK2 to my Avant MK1/V1 tv’s.
The first product without support for Spotify Connect was the M3.
There are hundreds of devices with support for Spotify Connect out there.....it can’t really be a license issue - the M5 has the support...
The ‘official’ explanation at that time was: people are using AP and CC for playing from whatever service they prepfer.
Thus, no need for the Connect support in the M3.
In the last couple of years AP(2) and CC has been the preference in Struer for multiroom.....in order to give people the freedom of choosing their music service. Untill now.
Now (with the Halo controller) we all need to use NL for multiroom, which is different.
Neither one way or the other there is need for ditching Spotify Connect - so why do it?
However, it seems a bit a hit or miss whether you get Spotify Connect inplementation in the newer devices or not - the Stage has Spotify Connect support, the Balance hasn’t.
Personally I would wish for a bit more continuity in the RD of the devices.
Telling me I best use AP(2)/CC (and certainly not Spotify Connect) one day and the next - if I want to benefit from a brandnew remote - I must rely on the NL-integrated Deezer for music, is not my cup of tea.
I need some explanation - who has the explanation, if there is any!
*The limitation using Spotify Connect and B&O multiroom however, is that you can not have multiple devices play the stream....like you can with Deezer.
beojeff:Good news: it CAN play linked sources.
That’s a bonus point, definitely!
BeoVision Haermony 65"...BeoLab 28 Anthracite....BeoLab 17 as REAR....BV10-32....BC6-26....Beosound 9000....Beosound 1 New York edt....Beogram 4002....Beoplay Emerge....Beoplay M5....Beoplay M3....Beoremote Halo....BeoRemote One BT....Beo6....Beo4....Beo4 Cinema....BeoLink 7000....Serene....H95 Black LTD....H9i Rimowa....6 x H6....Form 1....U70...
beojeff:It’s now in my kitchen. Bronze.
ngnear: beojeff: It’s now in my kitchen. Bronze. “Blends” in very well!
beojeff: It’s now in my kitchen. Bronze.
It’s now in my kitchen. Bronze.
“Blends” in very well!
I see what you did there! I do think the bronze goes nicely with copper.
The join icon isn't showing up on my Halo. Are other people with a Halo able to use the join function?
I would be very happy if it only the Halo also supported the NL/ML Converter, BeoSystem 4, and Moment. My nicer speakers are all connected to my BeoVisions/BeoSystems.
Michael:For about half the price I get an iPad mini with a processor probably thousands times faster than this choppy device that seemingly has cut corners everywhere except for its halo. The iPad is small, has a retina screen and honestly a really well defined B&O app that already has all your devices in it.
Sandyb: The fact that it offers no direct connection to Beolab 50s/90s it kind fo astonishing to me (correct me if I am wrong).
Beolab 28s Beolab 9s Beolab 12-3s Beolab 1s Beolab 6000s 2 pairs Beolab 4000s Beovision 7-55 Beovision 10-40 Beoplay V1 32 inch Beovision Avant 32 inch Beosound 1 (CD player) Beosound 3000 Beosound 5 Core Essence MKII Beoplay M5
Sandyb:Ok I’ve just played with it a bit at my local dealer It’s pretty smooth , responsive and didn’t lag. Better than I expected, which was good
It’s pretty smooth , responsive and didn’t lag. Better than I expected, which was good
That's good news. So how does it work controlling, say, Spotify which is playing on the BeoSound 2? Can it move around tracks?
Razlaw: That is very disappointing to me. I had been told it would control my 50s and that was the main reason I ordered one. I have told my dealer I want to cancel my order due to it not controlling the 50s.
That is very disappointing to me. I had been told it would control my 50s and that was the main reason I ordered one. I have told my dealer I want to cancel my order due to it not controlling the 50s.
That's disappointing for future purchasers, too. So no Balance, Avant or BL50 support? And I'd argue that the Halo is *more* appropriate to existing older-school B&O customers than someone like me who is quite happy to use voice control.
Millemissen:However, it seems a bit a hit or miss whether you get Spotify Connect inplementation in the newer devices or not - the Stage has Spotify Connect support, the Balance hasn’t.
May I correct your statement? The Balance technical specifications are showing this:
Can't tell you if this is the case in real life, but chances are.
Sandyb:It’s also very attractive - definitely a very nice to have product.Didn’t try out it’s full functionality, but it does seem a bit limited.
Sexy look, groundbreaking promises, less groundbreaking reality… Is it the Beo6 NG?
Fortunatly, the Beo6 happened to be a great device once "in public hands".
matador43:Sexy look, groundbreaking promises, less groundbreaking reality… Is it the Beo6 NG? Fortunatly, the Beo6 happened to be a great device once "in public hands".
Razlaw:That is very disappointing to me. I had been told it would control my 50s and that was the main reason I ordered one. I have told my dealer I want to cancel my order due to it not controlling the 50s. Beolab 50s Beolab 9s Beolab 12-3s Beolab 1s Beolab 6000s 2 pairs Beolab 4000s Beovision 7-55 Beovision 10-40 Beoplay V1 32 inch Beovision Avant 32 inch Beosound 1 (CD player) Beosound 3000 Beosound 5 Core Essence MKII Beoplay M5
moxxey:That's good news. So how does it work controlling, say, Spotify which is playing on the BeoSound 2? Can it move around tracks?
Sandyb:Depends on what question you asked regarding control of the BL50s. It will control the 50s via a Core (same again for other BEOLABS connected via a Core). In that scenario (Core plus 50s), it will play nicely. But as for direct control (even volume control and play / pause) with 50s being fed music by something else - no, that doesnt seem to be included, nor even the intention of the product. Again, i do find the narrow ambition of this a but disappointing.
Razlaw:The question I asked was about direct control. Beolab 50s Beolab 9s Beolab 12-3s Beolab 1s Beolab 6000s 2 pairs Beolab 4000s Beovision 7-55 Beovision 10-40 Beoplay V1 32 inch Beovision Avant 32 inch Beosound 1 (CD player) Beosound 3000 Beosound 5 Core Essence MKII Beoplay M5
Enjoying my Halo playing at home
mbolo01: Millemissen:However, it seems a bit a hit or miss whether you get Spotify Connect inplementation in the newer devices or not - the Stage has Spotify Connect support, the Balance hasn’t. May I correct your statement? The Balance technical specifications are showing this: Services de streamingChromecast intégré Apple AirPlay 2 Spotify Connect Can't tell you if this is the case in real life, but chances are.
Certainly you may correct - it would be very nice if that is so.
It also would indicate that they somehow have returned to implementing Spotify Connect.
Which would be nice for people like me ;-)
Rudi Pedersen:Enjoying my Halo playing at home
That must be the version, that everyone wished for............a new music player from B&O ;-))))
Rudi-
Have you been able to get the "join" icon? I haven't.
BV Harmony 65 / Eclipse 55 / BL 50 / 19 / 18 / BS 2 all brass
BV Horizon 48 / V1 40 / BL 17 / Beoplay S3 all black
V1 / BL 3 / BS Essence MKII / Beoplay A3 all white
BS Moment / BS 3000 / BS 3200 / BL 400 all silver
Headphones / bluetooth speakers / BLC NL-ML / BLGateway
I know…B&O virus has grown on me !
Rudi Pedersen:Hi Jeff, yes, scroll down on the first page and you get the join symbol at left hand
I haven't been able to get the join icon on any page. I might need to try resetting.
mbolo01:
I find it odd that the Moment isn't supported. It seems to have the same internal web server / JSON interface as my Essences and M5s so it ought to be controllable over NL in the same way as the other devices.
Sources: 2x Beosound Moment • 4x Beosound Essence Mk II Speakers: 3x Beolab 8000 • 2x Beolab 6000 • 2x Beolab 3 • 3x Beolab 2 Integrated: 1x Beosound 2 • 1x Beosound Level • 4x BeoPlay M5 • 1x BeoPlay A6 Control: 16x* Essence Remote • 1x Beoremote Halo
* Yes, really! 🤦♂️
beojeff, do you have the ''ready for airplay''(or what ever it's called exactly) boxes ticked in the devices? if so un tick them and it should appear. Had the same thing as I forgot to uncheck them after testing last time
New: Beovision Harmony, Beolab 50's, Beolab 28's, Beolab 18's, Beolab 17's, Beosound Stage & LG, Beosound 2, Beoplay M3, Beoplay A1, Beoplay Portal, Beoplay H4 gen 2, Beoplay E8 3.0
Mikipedia on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/Mikipedia
Mikipedi4 on Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/mikipedi4
Mikipedia on Intagram: https://www.instagram.com/mikipedi4/
Old: Beosound 9000 mk3, Beolab 3's, Beovision Eclipse, Beolab 1's, Beolab 2, Beovision 10-46, Overture 2300, beolab 8000's, Beolab 4000's, Beovision avant 32" etc. etc.