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Hi
if I play a CD on my 9000 (which does not have Airplay 2, obviously), and play it through the Eclipse, which does have Airplay 2, will that CD be available to all Airplay 2 speakers. If so, how do I make that work?
No, unfortunately you cannot “feed” anything to AirPlay 2. Playback must start from an iDevice.
You can of course multiroom it via NL, but then you can only use B&O speakers. Not generic AP2-speakers.
Understood. Thanks
so no workaround?
Thanks. Understood. So no workaround?
Kludge workaround: Repurpose an ancient Mac computer to the task.
Rogue Amoeba makes an application called "Airfoil" which can redirect any "Audio Device" to any combination of Airplay and Airplay2 speakers. Take the Powerlink output of the 9000, route it to the Line In jack of the (old, remember, they have a line in jack!?!) Mac, and set Airfoil to send that to whatever Airplay device. (Airfoil "Audio Device" also includes Mac OS programs, but we're not interested in that, even though it's the main point of the product!)
Download it for free first, from rogueamoeba.com, just to make sure it runs on your Mac, your old OS, and actually works with the Line In jack.
Edit: Of course, this *completely misses* what makes the integrated B&O system so good: You cannot "join" from other speakers, nor can you control the 9000 via the TV or anywhere else other than its own IR receiver (and panel/edge buttons of course). You can't wander into another room with another TV and press "Link CD", none-o'-that. Also changing the speaker groups is a hassle if you have to remote-control your Mac with an app to get Airfoil to swap speakers.
(Generally speaking, Apple was only licensing Airplay *output* devices, and you needed an Apple device to act as source device. That's the case for this workaround too. Hopefully this will change sometime soon, with manufacturers being allowed to act as a source as well as a destination. But not today.)
Thanks, trackbeo, that’s really helpful
trackbeo:(Generally speaking, Apple was only licensing Airplay *output* devices, and you needed an Apple device to act as source device. That's the case for this workaround too. Hopefully this will change sometime soon, with manufacturers being allowed to act as a source as well as a destination. But not today.)
What I dont get, is why there's no substitute!?
Airplay is an Apple patend, but if I understand well "music over wifi" is not: NL, Sonos, maybe others?
Why isn't there somewhere around little magic boxes which TX and RX music over a network?
Because Apple does not want it to be.
Or because noone has - untill now - knacked the codes to make such a product possible (which I guess at the moment would be illegal).
MM
There is a tv - and there is a BV
I meant "not necessarily" Airplay !
As written, Sonos stream audio over network, B&O does the same through NL.
Shouldn't be too difficult to stream audio over a private or common network and have small AD/DA converters at each ends.
Shouldn't we also add Denon's HEOS system, or Bluesound products too, and I'm sure there are others, Roon etc.
B&O's decision to withdraw NL should be seen in that context - that there quite a few other home streaming platforms.
matador43: I meant "not necessarily" Airplay ! As written, Sonos stream audio over network, B&O does the same through NL. Shouldn't be too difficult to stream audio over a private or common network and have small AD/DA converters at each ends.
The OP asked for a solution utilizing AP2!How Sonos does things I can’t say.
B&O however offers a solution (which they are about to ditch), where you can distribute the sound from an AP source to the other speakers in the NL network - I use that from time to time.
But that is not AP2.
IMO there is no need to invent something - it is already there with the B&O NL devices.......with AD and DA converters built-in.
But maybe you are thinking of a small device with just in- and out-put (no speakers etc built-in), that could work on the NL network with whatever source and speakers you’d connect to it?
Hi Millemissen
This question has taken on a life of its own, which is great. I am reasonably tech savvy but some of this stuff I don’t understand
My set up is Beosound 9000 linked to Eclipse, but not by a converter, Apple TV4, linked to Eclipse in the living room, and Apple Homepod in the conservatory
So if you say what I need is already there, how do I get to hear my 9000 CDs on my HomePod?
AD and DA converters? Not a clue!
Thanks
How did you connect the BS 9000 to the Eclipse?
He didn't mean your setup is "already there" to do what you want.
With your 9000 connected to your Eclipse, no easy way to listen on your HomePod.
If you HomePod was a B&O speaker, like an M3/M5/ BS1/2 etc etc, it would be all there and a touch of a button (i.e. the NL protocol).
thorne: Hi Millemissen This question has taken on a life of its own, which is great. I am reasonably tech savvy but some of this stuff I don’t understand My set up is Beosound 9000 linked to Eclipse, but not by a converter, Apple TV4, linked to Eclipse in the living room, and Apple Homepod in the conservatory So if you say what I need is already there, how do I get to hear my 9000 CDs on my HomePod? AD and DA converters? Not a clue! Thanks
Not sure. B& O set it up. I know it wasn’t a nl/ml converter because it was no longer being produced. Some sort of AV link?
thorne: Not sure. B& O set it up. I know it wasn’t a nl/ml converter because it was no longer being produced. Some sort of AV link?
Probably just connected to the analog line input on the Eclipse/SoundCenter.
(How do you control the setup, when playing from the 9000?)
In short - there is no way that you can listen to the 9000 on your Homepod (via AirPlay).
That is right. The Eclipse is an AirPlay 2 receiver. The originator device must be an iDevice to play it on your HomePod. Not sure if you replaced your HomePod with a BeoPlay M5 would change anything...
B&O in my life 😊:
Yes it would.
He'd be able to tap the M5 and it will join the 9000 playing through his Eclipse.
A point you should appreciate now that it has been explained numerous times on the other Airplay threads.
Jaffrey2230: That is right. The Eclipse is an AirPlay 2 receiver. The originator device must be an iDevice to play it on your HomePod. Not sure if you replaced your HomePod with a BeoPlay M5 would change anything...
Thanks for all replies. I realise now it’s not going to happen. Thought I’d ask anyway
Just a thought. Would connecting an Apple airport express to my 9000 allow me to stream CDs to my HomePod?
Alas not. Like the speakers, the Airport Express is only an AirPlay *Receiver*. Its audio connector is line-out, not line-in. Your only option is line-in on a Mac (Mini, simplest) running AirFoil. (Of course connecting an Airport Express to the 9000 would allow you to AirPlay *to* the 9000 via Aux In!:-)