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Beolab 50 and Beosound Core

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wanc1
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wanc1 Posted: Mon, Oct 26 2020 2:35 PM

Hi all,

 

I have my Beolab 50s connected to Beosound Core.

However, when the music is not playing, I could hear a noticeable hiss coming from the tweeters.

When I’m using USB audio connected to my Mac, there’s no hiss.

Is this supposed to happen?

thanks

Ray

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Michael replied on Mon, Oct 26 2020 2:36 PM
wanc1:

Hi all,

I have my Beolab 50s connected to Beosound Core.

However, when the music is not playing, I could hear a noticeable hiss coming from the tweeters.

When I’m using USB audio connected to my Mac, there’s no hiss.

Is this supposed to happen?

thanks

Ray

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wanc1 replied on Mon, Oct 26 2020 2:50 PM

Via Powerlink 

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Razlaw replied on Mon, Oct 26 2020 2:56 PM
My 50s are connected to a Core by optical. I have not noticed any such sound.

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Michael replied on Mon, Oct 26 2020 3:13 PM

wanc1:

Via Powerlink 

The Core shall be connected by optical to Beolab 50 for optimal sound. It can be connected via Powerlink but will then suffer from lower processing quality from the speakers internal DAC. This is a design choice (although stupid, as it can not be regulated).

I would suggest you connect it over optical instead. It is possible that the sound you hear are a result of using an unshielded or badly shielded cable of low quality between the devices. You need a S/FTP Cat6 or 7 cable for optimal signal transfer without balancing or interference issues.  

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Well - all ‘ways into’ the 50’s are basicly treated the same way in the processing of the speaker/s with the exception that the analog connection runs through an ADC-converter.

When you connect a source analog you will have a slightly higher noice floor, that you can measure, but hardly hear.

I’d suppose that the (quality of) the used PL cable primarily is the reason for the ‘noticable hiss’.


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Wouldn't it be fantastic that when you buy a pair of a 25.000EUR speakers, you get as well specifically instructed how to achieve the best sound quality? So that you don't have to reach out to this forum? Or is that too much to expect? (this is not the first thread with the same subject, right?)

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wanc1 replied on Mon, Oct 26 2020 10:58 PM

Probably. Kinda disappointing though since the cables are installed by my dealers and are I guess “official” B&O ones. Will check out some optical cables.

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wanc1 replied on Mon, Oct 26 2020 11:02 PM

True. In my country, it’s around 35000 euros... RIP

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Michael replied on Mon, Oct 26 2020 11:07 PM
Well there is the technical sound guide. And yes, it’s weird the install manual isn’t given out. It contains important messages to ones health and safety so I felt a bit mislead by B&O as they kept that information from me and hence made it much more risky to install. In the end I got a copy through friends but it was not easy and it’s just an old draft for service personnel.

I hope B&O reads this and change their mind.

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Mikipidia replied on Mon, Oct 26 2020 11:41 PM

Risky to install? Also the sound guide is freely available

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Michael replied on Tue, Oct 27 2020 8:26 AM
Mikipidia:

Risky to install? Also the sound guide is freely available

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Risky to install yes, as the instructions contains important information about how to lift them and how many people are required for safe work. It also contains information about how cables has to be installed to not cause fire hazards.

And yes, the technical sound guide is available just as I wrote too :).

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L1NO replied on Tue, Oct 27 2020 12:01 PM

All Beolab speakers hiss.

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Michael replied on Tue, Oct 27 2020 12:03 PM
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All Beolab speakers hiss.

Yea slightly due to the active speaker solution but as the thread starter also wrote, they don’t sound as bad on other inputs so i believe that he is using an in sufficiently shielded cable for the power link input.

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BeoVision Eclipse Gen 2 55", BeoPlay V1-40, 
BeoCom 6000 and so much else :)  

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Correct. The noise floor is lower with optical in and out from BS Core based on my experience as well. It’s highest with volume control audio out from a TV.

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Curly replied on Tue, Oct 27 2020 12:51 PM

I agree.

In my Core setup, I prefer using Toslink since the glass fibers aren’t susceptible to EMI like copper Powerlink cables are. I’ve noticed less feedback (I.e., hissing) issues when using Toslink versus Powerlink. That is to say, my Toslink cables don’t hiss at all.

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Michael replied on Tue, Oct 27 2020 1:22 PM
Curly:

I agree.

In my Core setup, I prefer using Toslink since the glass fibers aren’t susceptible to EMI like copper Powerlink cables are. I’ve noticed less feedback (I.e., hissing) issues when using Toslink versus Powerlink. That is to say, my Toslink cables don’t hiss at all.

Currently: BeoSound Core, BeoLab 17, BeoLab 18

Previously: BeoSound 1 non-GVA

This makes me also wonder why B&O haven’t evolved away from the pretty crappy old analogue way of transmitting signals to their speakers. All the current gen speakers (I think) gave more than analog inputs but yet the only outputs are analogue (except for the wpl) on beovisions.

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BeoSound Core, BeoSound 9000, BeoSound Century, 
BeoLit 15, BeoPlay A1, BeoPlay P2, BeoPlay H9 3rd Gen, BeoPlay H6, EarSet 3i, 
BeoVision Eclipse Gen 2 55", BeoPlay V1-40, 
BeoCom 6000 and so much else :)  

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