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claudiu Posted: Wed, Jan 23 2013 2:05 AM

 

 

Ipad interactive music control

 

how to connect with beosaund 5?

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lano replied on Wed, Jan 23 2013 7:57 AM
I guess it will come a sw update on the mlgw also.
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nobody knows anything about this ??

  

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stefan replied on Wed, Jan 23 2013 4:41 PM

Thanks for the picture. Anything new on this?

I updated Beolink app on my ipad to 1.6, there is no update for MLGW, but the "interactive music control" doesn`t work.

And I can`t find the text "ipad interactive music control" anymore ..(?)

What`s happening here...????

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"New features

Updated for iOS 6 & iPhone 5 layout.
Improved demo mode.
Prepared for iPad music browsing on BeoMaster 5 with next ML Gateway release in March."

I read the news today, oh boy....

Greetings Millemissen

 

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the same for me

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mjmedlo replied on Wed, Jan 23 2013 7:55 PM

I am told the MLGW update will be end of the month or first of next.

Also, supposed to incorporate Spotify

MJM

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beolion replied on Wed, Jan 23 2013 8:21 PM
So the MLGW might be worth the investment? I have not seen this "feature" coming for BS5 as the system already is on the network.

Looking to be an interesting spring.
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     if they enter this function, I will be super happy.'ve sent an email to B & O a year ago when I asked them to make beosaund 5 compatible to Spotify.

 I'm the only family member who uses BeoSound 5  the rest using Spotify ,yousee music  with apple tv :(

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@beolion "....BS5 as the system already is on the network"

The BS5 (or rather the BM5) was NEVER  "on the network" - but with the MLGW it can be a part of the network!

@claudiu You would need a BM/BS5-combo AND the MLGW for that  - and the BeoLink-app !

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Vienna replied on Thu, Jan 24 2013 1:38 AM

Millemissen:
I read the news today, oh boy....

@Millemissen Yes - thumbs up Clearly better news than " ... Four thousand holes in Blackburn, Lancashire ..."

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mjmedlo replied on Thu, Jan 24 2013 3:16 AM
I was of the understanding a bm5 may not be necessary....

Im hopeful it isn't as I sold mine about a year ago.
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lano replied on Fri, Jan 25 2013 11:56 AM
Anyone with more information on iPad browsing feature, will this work with a Beomaster 5 without the Beosound 5?
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mjmedlo replied on Sat, Jan 26 2013 1:04 AM
Nothing new from Beocare or ikatu

However.. This olive one product is pretty cool ... On a different note

www.myolive.us

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Carolpa replied on Sat, Jan 26 2013 8:44 AM

Millemissen:
but with the MLGW it can be a part of the network

Strange! I don't expect B&o would develop a new MLGW since NL is the future.

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It is just an update.

NL is for Audio/Video - MLGW is for integrating Homeautomation with BeoLink.

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Carolpa replied on Sat, Jan 26 2013 4:09 PM

Millemissen:

It is just an update.

NL is for Audio/Video - MLGW is for integrating Homeautomation with BeoLink.

Greetings Millemissen

Jeee, thanks for the explanation! But what if NL has replaced ML?

New B&o will have NL and no ML. So a NLGW would be expected!

But it is a strange reply because the thread started with the control of BM5/BS5 with the Beolink app; an audio product!

Now without kidding. You mean it will only be a sw update?

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stefan replied on Sat, Jan 26 2013 4:39 PM

Of course MLGW is also for audio/video products.

Just read the manuals.

It is also NL compatible.

Read TheFAQ on Beo website.

Masterlink is not dead.

Think of the many people using ML in combination with MCL.

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I wrote "...integrating Homeautomation with BeoLink."

Could as well have written "integrat.... with NL, ML and MCL"

Of cource you could rename the MLGW to BeoLinkGateWay - but that would not change anything.

NL is not supposed to control different homeautomation-installations and thus needs a GateWay to interface with BeoLink (NL/ML/MCL).

Kind regards Stick out tongue Millemissen

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Vienna replied on Sat, Jan 26 2013 9:28 PM

Carolpa:

1 But what if NL has replaced ML?

2 New B&o will have NL and no ML.

3 So a NLGW would be expected!

1) Whenever in the future your system will be "pure NL", a (ML/NL) Beolink converter will do
     the job to integrate a MLGW beeing "the last ML component" of the system.

2) True, but there are a lot of ML based systems "in the wild", many/most of them without a MLGW.

3)  A recent MLGW and a ML/NL-Beolink converter is an existing and working solution!
     As already Big Smile "rumored", there are a lot of other issues to be solved in the near future to get a
     smooth transition from ML to NL before we can expect a "NLGW" - but maybe I'm wrong. 

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claudiu replied on Sat, Jan 26 2013 11:27 PM

I thought MLGW will be built in future tv, and each will have to pay a "small " amount extra to open this function :)

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At first I thought: NO WAY!

But then again: it's an interesting thought, why not!

Greetings Millemissen

 

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StUrrock replied on Sun, Jan 27 2013 12:49 PM
Why is everyone getting so excited about NL?

It is only IP based technology, other brands have been doing it for years.

Is Hanging on to ML and continually to put badly needle research resources into outdated technology sensible?

Although it is important to look after existing clients who have ML, but one day soon ML will be dead.

Just a thought.
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NL is important because you can't distribute video over ML.

And because it will/could give us the opportunity to use multisources in multiroom.

And...

OK - "other brands" has been "doing it for years"..

But "other brands" has also produced tv's for years, and still we buy the ones, that B&O produces.

It is a matter of how things are being made/implemented.

That is why we hope that B&O will use "only IP based technology" in their products in a  better way than the "other brands".

No reason to ditch ML - a ML based setup will be working well for years to come.

But technology and what we can do with it develops.

And no need to shout at NL - B&O even made a converter to please old costumers.

Which "other brand" would waste time on that?

Grrr! Millemissen

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Raeuber replied on Sun, Jan 27 2013 5:36 PM
Millemissen:

NL is important because you can't distribute video over ML.

But there is still no information that NL will be able to distribute video!

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No, but I expect it to develop in that direction!

Don't you?

 

B&O has bin telling us to use Cat7-cables for installation for some time now - because of better shielding and higher bandwith.

Why should we bother for Cat7-cables, if they aren't thinking of video too?

A quick search on the internet presents us for explanations like this:

"Says James Bundey, marketing manager, Asia Pacific, Molex Premise Networks, “The standards bodies are

pushing Cat 7 toward the home market. The reason for this is that the individually shielded pairs on Cat 7 cable

enable it to support multiple services/applications such as broadband, video, and data."

www.voicendata.com/voice-data/news/163101/toward-cat

 

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StUrrock replied on Sun, Jan 27 2013 9:53 PM
NL or more correctly a computer

network can already allow a bvis 11 to stream video from a hard drive.

Cat7 is recommended by B&O mainly because of its ability to carry analogue audio.

If analogue audio is not required HD base T can do amazing things over bog standard Cat5e

Just a few years ago we had to run 2x cat7 for B&Os hd matrix solution. All of my competitors were using just a single Cat5 to do just a good a job.

On many jobs where rewiring is not possible we are using CT100 coax to carry HD video.

I have been misunderstood, ML for what it is. Is superb and has and will work for many many years.

"ML is dead long live ML"

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Vienna replied on Sun, Jan 27 2013 9:55 PM

Millemissen:
  Why should we bother for Cat7-cables, if they aren't thinking of video too?

An Atlona Pro 2/3 Matrix using HDbaseT technology can distribute via a single Cat6a/7 cable a full HD (1080p) signal up to 70m,
send power over ethernet to remote HDMI<>RJ45 receiver nearby the TV and is also able to transmit IR commands received by the
TV to the switcher.   

Millemissen:
  The reason for this is that the individually shielded pairs on Cat 7 cable enable it to support
multiple services/applications such as  broadband, video, and data ...

... and, in a B&O installation, balanced (ML) as well as non balanced (PL) analogue signals. 

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Raeuber replied on Sun, Jan 27 2013 10:58 PM
Millemissen:

No, but I expect it to develop in that direction!

Don't you?

Yes, I expect this too. Because it wouldn't make much sense if B&O would develop Netlink for years only for audio. Let us wait for a great future of Netlink...

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Hi Vienna,

 

1: I would say, the Atlona-thing (which - of cource - I already knew) is for those who can't (or couldn't) wait for BeoLink-NL to develop - and who have the money too Crying

2: That sentence was a quote - not mine.  Of cource I know that it is perfect for analog too!

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beolion replied on Mon, Jan 28 2013 6:27 PM
Hi

I have 3 tv's (7-55, 8-32 and 8-40), but I never liked the video distribution so instead each tv has their own dvb-c (if not built in), and it was cheaper to buy a tvix media player to each tv instead of the matrix solution.

I am not sure I would use video distribution if I had NL.

ML hover works just fine for sound.
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Vienna replied on Mon, Jan 28 2013 8:28 PM

Millemissen:
Of cource I know that it is perfect for analog too!

@ Milemissen

    Of course I know YOU know Smile

   Just wanted to stress CAT 7 wiring is the way to build a multi-purpose "universal" network infrastructure.

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@beolion "I am not sure I would use video distribution if I had NL."

Videodistribution with NL will be different than in times of ML. 

F.ex. you will be able to pick up your content from a NAS, and choose where to play it - in one room or more -  take it with you from one room to another. Look at a recording, you have made on one tv, on another (or more). All easily controlled with one app on a tablet.

What the BeoRemote can do today is just the beginning.

Sure you can have a TViX in each room  - that is the best way to do it today.

Let talk of this again in a couple of years - to see if things have changed for you, and for me Stick out tongue

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beolion replied on Mon, Jan 28 2013 9:56 PM

Millemissen:

Let talk of this again in a couple of years - to see if things have changed for you, and for me Stick out tongue

He he, my mindset do change from time to time Smile

I tell my wife every year, that I am finished with adjusting cables in the house and looking at B&O stuff, because everything is in place now.

But............things just happen, kind of automatic here where I live Stick out tongue

However, it might be my first year since 2008 where I do not buy any B&O products, but if interesting things start to happen in Struer, then....I am looking forward to see what happens, and do follow a lot here on the Forum.

 

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mjmedlo replied on Wed, Jan 30 2013 7:25 PM
Back to the topic.

Does anyone know when the mlgw will be updated to match the new app update?
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Vienna replied on Wed, Jan 30 2013 11:31 PM

mjmedlo:
Back to the topic. 
Does anyone know when the mlgw will be updated to match the new app update?

My information is MARCH  - hopefully 2013 Big Smile

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lano replied on Sun, Mar 10 2013 4:21 PM

Any more updates on this matter? Is march 2013 still valid? Anyone (dealer?) that have tried it?

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mjmedlo replied on Sun, Mar 10 2013 10:41 PM
lano:

Any more updates on this matter? Is march 2013 still valid? Anyone (dealer?) that have tried it?

I hear there are a few dealers that have it.

Check Atlanta US

It has favorites that can be programmed and allows 2 way with BM5

PM me for more.
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