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Thanks! Coincidentally I have been listening to another Widor piece to try out the speakers, Toccata from Symphony No. 5.
The organ in it sounds amazing on the 5s, and just slightly less amazing on the 9s.
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Sounds like you are swinging back to the 5's..... ?
Yes, I am somewhat swinging back to the 5s. Trying to decide if I want to disconnect my Beosound 5 from the other room and move it into room with the 5s so I can try the digital connection and see if that adds anything to the sound.
If they're a good deal, buy them.. You sound like you're starting to love them.
If you don't and return them, you won't stop thinking about them!!
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I am trying to decide if they are good enough deal. 2007 models, been dealer demo since then. Price is 20 percent discount off of 2007 price.
I would be asking for a bigger discount than that for that particular pair. Also, I would be asking for the full new product warranty as you'll technically be the first owner.
Razlaw: I am trying to decide if they are good enough deal. 2007 models, been dealer demo since then. Price is 20 percent discount off of 2007 price.
20% is nothing. They have been writing them off since 2007 over I guess three or five years. They should give you at least 45% off. They were demo units and there to sell other units so they have paid themselves over and over again. I would not accept the 20% discount. Six years old and probably cranked up quite high at times.
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mibook84:20% is nothing. They have been writing them off since 2007 over I guess three or five years. They should give you at least 45% off. They were demo units and there to sell other units so they have paid themselves over and over again. I would not accept the 20% discount. Six years old and probably cranked up quite high at times.
Raeuber:Hi Razlaw, BL 5 from 2007: 45% off BL 5 new: 20% off Nothing else is acceptable! /Räuber
BL 5 from 2007: 45% off
BL 5 new: 20% off
Nothing else is acceptable!
/Räuber
45% off the current price of a new pair, or 45% off of the 2007 price? Price I am currently being offered is 20% off the 2007 price.
Razlaw:45% off the current price of a new pair, or 45% off of the 2007 price? Price I am currently being offered is 20% off the 2007 price.
You need to remember that those figures are borderline for the dealer losing money simply by selling on Pair A, then buying visually identical new ones to replace them- albeit with minor tech changes,
Only when there is a distinct new version (think BV7 versions) will dealers reduce prices 'to clear'.
Lab 5's from 2007 will be fine to demonstrate and take orders for new ones - why would a retailer remove/deliver/replace the old ones at a loss ?
Quite literally, a waste of time & money.
I have to agree, I don't think a 45% discount is reasonable. If I was the dealer, I wouldn't take such a hit.
I think the 20% off the 2007 price is pretty good, as long as the full warranty is supplied as well.
folkdeejay:You need to remember that those figures are borderline for the dealer losing money simply by selling on Pair A, then buying visually identical new ones to replace them- albeit with minor tech changes, Only when there is a distinct new version (think BV7 versions) will dealers reduce prices 'to clear'. Lab 5's from 2007 will be fine to demonstrate and take orders for new ones - why would a retailer remove/deliver/replace the old ones at a loss ? Quite literally, a waste of time & money.
B&O are offering great incentives at the moment, go on ask for at least 20% off a new pair
You know you want them
On another organ note! Just played Bach's Toccata and Fugue in D minor on our Lab5s, mind blowing!!
The organ is known as the King of instruments, maybe the Beolab 5s are the King of speakers!
................now you've inspired me.
Where has that CD of the Saint Saens Organ Symphony gone?
That last movement on Lab5s, musical heaven!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I just a purchased a pair of lab5s today :-)! A demo pair since july 2009 got a great deal.
64500dkk(about 8600eur) with delivering and a two year warranty :-)
Hopefully they match my bv11! But I don't get a chance to try before moving out in march.
AS:64500dkk(about 8600eur) with delivering and a two year warranty :-)
That's less than half price!
Sorry! I was too fast there, on the way home from school.. The asking price from the dealer is 74.900dkk(about 10.000eur) but if i give my Beosound 5 encore, i'll get the pair for 64.500dkk, which i probably do, since i don't want the mess with selling it, myself...Then he exchange my BL12-3 to a pair BL3 on floorstands
Now it`s time to read the excellent BL5 review from Mr10%, who is unfortunately one of the members that disappeared...(in Transit?).
Mr10%:
"I cannot recommend them more highly enough. You will be moved.
Sound quality 100% Ease of use 100% Design 100% Build quality 100% Value for money 200% Desirability 100% Emotionally does it." http://www.beoworld.org/prod_details.asp?pid=800 Stefan
Sound quality 100%
Ease of use 100%
Design 100%
Build quality 100%
Value for money 200%
Desirability 100%
Emotionally does it."
http://www.beoworld.org/prod_details.asp?pid=800
StUrrock: B&O are offering great incentives at the moment, go on ask for at least 20% off a new pair
I agree with this, I would try 20% off a new pair, if it includes an additional 2 years warranty and the speakers will be 6 years newer.
Not that the older speakers will be bad, we have four BL5s and we bought them used. We love them, except one is in for repair at the moment. New chassis/base driver.... 1500 CHF
So ... it is worth considering the value and security in the additional warranty.
Razlaw:I have been demoing the 5s in my house now for 3 1/2 weeks. I have them for another week and a half. I am starting to rethink my opinion and may want a pair. Since turning "LOUDNESS" to "ON" I find I am liking the much better than before. The question is whether I like them enough better than my 9s to justify the cost. Question: Speakers I am demoing are a 2007 pair that have been in the store since 2007. They have been moved around for in home demos etc. Any thoughts on buying the demos? Anything to look out for? Any changes been made since 2007 such that new ones would be different? Thanks!
Razlaw:I turned Loudness on in the BV7 sound menu.
Maab: Razlaw: The lab5 are a "tour the force" great all round speakers... But because the way they are designed they need lots of space around, behind and sides, or the sound will be spoiled greatly. B&o stores, as i have seen, usually sets them in the corner with the idea of showing off, unfortunately... Your room seems small for them, it will require appropriate positioning but away from the walls!
Razlaw:
The lab5 are a "tour the force" great all round speakers... But because the way they are designed they need lots of space around, behind and sides, or the sound will be spoiled greatly. B&o stores, as i have seen, usually sets them in the corner with the idea of showing off, unfortunately...
Your room seems small for them, it will require appropriate positioning but away from the walls!
I think you may be right. My room is such that I can not place them out in the open. The center of each speaker is 22 inches from the wall. BV7-55 between them. One speaker is near a 45 degree corner and thus is somewhat open, other speaker is right next to a Beosystem 1 cabinet.
Another question....I have a Beosound 5 connected by Masterlink to my system. It is in a different room than the 5s. Would it be worth the effort of moving the Beosound 5 and connecting it to the 5s with the digital connection instead of PowerLinks? Is there much difference in the sound?
Thanks!
Razlaw:Another question....I have a Beosound 5 connected by Masterlink to my system. It is in a different room than the 5s. Would it be worth the effort of moving the Beosound 5 and connecting it to the 5s with the digital connection instead of PowerLinks? Is there much difference in the sound? Thanks!
I have been watching Skyfall today switching between the the 9s and 5s trying to make my final decision before the demo 5s go back to dealer Monday. I noticed in certain scenes the dialogue seemed much clearer with the 5s. So I unplugged my 7-4 and realized that in some scenes, dialogue is sent to the front left and right speakers in addition to the center, although at a much lower volume level.
So, did you buy them??????????
Interesting thread and interesting end result. I seriously consider an in home audition of BL5s against BL9 too. Only difference is I own the BL5s but consider "Upgrading" to BL9. Lately they received very high praise in reviews here on the site.
I spent 100s of hours trying to make my BL5 sound good in my living room. During my two years of ownership I received very kind help from members of this forum - including even Mr. Molton and Geoff Martin. But neither fibonacci backed placement, concrete slabs or absorbers helped.
I found that to get at least some amount of bass I had to calibrate the speakers outside on my balcony and move them all the way into the corners of my living room. I mostly listen to classical music and watch movies but I find myself prefering my headphones for serious listening.
I think that a simple switch for bass calibration will be a big step up with the BL9 and I am really sad it is not on the back of the BL5s too.