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Beosystem and BV 11 in same room using same Beolab 9 speakers

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altist Posted: Sun, May 2 2021 8:24 PM

Good evening.

  I have a beosystem 6500 and a BV11 set up in front of me and they both use the same Beolab 9 speakers. Can I set the options via Beo 4 so that the TV command for the BV11 doesn't turn on the Aux connection on the Beomaster 6500? I cant find the answer easily at the present time. I'm not using the Beo4 to control the Beosystem as I have a Beolink 1000,MCP6500 and Beolink 7000 to do that,...overkill I know! Thank you for any help that anyone can offer...the TV is in V-Opt 2 but not sure what the Beosystem is in at present. 

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stefan replied on Mon, May 3 2021 10:36 AM

Assuming you are using a BL converter 1611 and a BL ML/NL converter between BV11 and BS6500 and your BL9s are connected to BV11, set BS6500 to A.OPT 0 and BV11 (ML/NL converter) to videomaster V.OPT 2.

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altist replied on Mon, May 3 2021 5:01 PM

Hi Stefan,

  Thank you for your reply. Im not using any Beolinks between the Beomaster and the BV11. I have the speakers connected by power link from the Beomaster to one of the two power link inputs on BL 9 and then the BV11 to the other powerlink input on the speaker. The problem is the pressing of TV controls on Beo 4 is picked up by the Beomaster as AUX. 

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Carolpa replied on Mon, May 3 2021 5:22 PM

altist:
Hi Stefan,

  Thank you for your reply. Im not using any Beolinks between the Beomaster and the BV11. I have the speakers connected by power link from the Beomaster to one of the two power link inputs on BL 9 and then the BV11 to the other powerlink input on the speaker. The problem is the pressing of TV controls on Beo 4 is picked up by the Beomaster as AUX.

Your setup isn't conform specs. So three options: 1) make the setup conform specs or 2) learn to live with it or 3) put the Beomaster behind doors in a cupboard or in another room.

ad 2) & 3)and hopefully the BL9's will have a long live

 

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Guy replied on Mon, May 3 2021 5:32 PM

I you don't want to use a converter such as that mentioned by stefan, then in order to 'share' your speakers between the TV and Beosystem, use a powerlink switch such as this: https://shop.oneremote.dk/shop/69067-powerlink-switch/4162-powerlink-speaker-switch/

And then set your BV11 to V.OPT 1 and your BS6500 to A.OPT 1.

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altist replied on Mon, May 3 2021 5:51 PM
Carolpa

I suspected it wasn’t going to be easy, so thank you for the advice and possible solutions.

Guy thank you for that suggestion. I might well go with it as it solves the problem for me in one easy step.
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Carolpa replied on Mon, May 3 2021 5:54 PM

Guy:
you don't want to use a converter such as that mentioned by stefan, then in order to 'share' your speakers between the TV and Beosystem, use a powerlink switch such as this: https://shop.oneremote.dk/shop/69067-powerlink-switch/4162-powerlink-speaker-switch/
Nice solution, unknown to me.

Guy:
And then set your BV11 to V.OPT 1 and your BS6500 to A.OPT 1.
if both have an AUX source both would start anyway, because they don't communicate with each other........ so the options do not matter.

But thinking about it: what is the difficulty with the A.AUX command to a BV11 at all? If it is just the BV11 and nothing else, the BV11 shouldn't start.

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altist replied on Mon, May 3 2021 6:12 PM
Hi carolpa

It does seem a very neat solution I think I may have confused you re the Aux appearing. This happens on the Beomaster when I press the tv,Dtv or vmem on the Beo4 that control the tv. I have apple on the Dtv and the inbuilt hard drive on vmem so at least three buttons initiate this Aux appearing.

I’m very grateful to everyone for their advice and possible solutions. Beoworld is a mine of information freely given and that’s a rare freebie in this world! Thank you.
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stefan replied on Mon, May 3 2021 6:38 PM

Guy:

I you don't want to use a converter such as that mentioned by stefan, then in order to 'share' your speakers between the TV and Beosystem, use a powerlink switch such as this: https://shop.oneremote.dk/shop/69067-powerlink-switch/4162-powerlink-speaker-switch/

And then set your BV11 to V.OPT 1 and your BS6500 to A.OPT 1.

Get the oneremote powerlink switch - they are great - I have two of them in linkrooms to integrate local audiosystems with the main system.

And please, disconnect your powerlink solution - if both systems, BS6500 and BV11 are activated it may (will) result in hum and maybe damage.

Stefan

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altist replied on Mon, May 3 2021 7:07 PM
Thank you -I was feeling it wasn’t best so had disconnected the beosystem in the meantime. The one remote solution seems by far the neatest and easiest way to solve my problem. Then just to wire up the power link cables! It will keep me busy.
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@Stefan, Carolpa, Guy.....

I can’t test it - but doesn’t the BM6500 have an option 4?

This indicates that it has:

https://www.vintageshifi.com/repertoire-pdf/pdf/telecharge.php?pdf=Bang-Olufsen-Beomaster_6500-Service-Manual.pdf

 

In that case the BM6500 could be set to option 4 - which then means, that altist has to use the Link command before any command for the Beosystem 6500 (and that the BV would not react).

 

P.S. The right way to go IMO, would be to use the NL/ML Converter....makes everything much easier, once set up/configured.

 

MM

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Carolpa replied on Mon, May 3 2021 8:56 PM

Millemissen:
The right way to go IMO, would be to use the NL/ML Converter....makes everything much easier, once set up/configured.
Correct

Millemissen:
I can’t test it - but doesn’t the BM6500 have an option 4?
not to my knowledge

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Hi,

There is a simpler option - connect the speakers to the TV and link the Beomaster to the 9 pin AV input of the TV with this cable to share the speakers:-

https://soundsheavenly.com/tv-input/138-2294-9-pin-av-cable-for-beovision-11-12-new-generation-avant-v1-and-beosystem-4-powerlink-input.html#/4-length-3m

No need for any kind of switch or converter.

Kind regards, Steve.

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Steve at Sounds Heavenly:

Hi,

There is a simpler option - connect the speakers to the TV and link the Beomaster to the 9 pin AV input of the TV with this cable to share the speakers:-

https://soundsheavenly.com/tv-input/138-2294-9-pin-av-cable-for-beovision-11-12-new-generation-avant-v1-and-beosystem-4-powerlink-input.html#/4-length-3m

No need for any kind of switch or converter.

Kind regards, Steve.

Sure, Steve - however that does not solve the issue that altist has.

This is :’the problem is the pressing of TV controls on Beo 4 is picked up by the Beomaster as AUX.’.

MM

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Carolpa:

Millemissen:
I can’t test it - but doesn’t the BM6500 have an option 4?
not to my knowledge

But according to that linked document it should have.

Would be nice if someone could try that out.

MM

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altist replied on Tue, May 4 2021 3:21 PM
Hi MM,I’ll give it a try when back home. And yes the problem is still that the beomaster responds to the beo 4 tv commands. I’ve set the system up as per Steve’s recommendation as had that cable from a previous use.

I’m going to unplug the amplifier tonight and see if that perhaps sorts it..plus try another beo4 nav remote to see if the problem lies there. At present the options are tv in opt2 and beomaster in opt 1.
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altist replied on Tue, May 4 2021 4:19 PM
Gentlefolk many and various!

Well back home I picked up an old style Beo4 in bedroom and tried it..no aux initiated…!!Reckoning my luck couldn’t hold out,I dug out a spare nav beo4 and tried that. No aux again and just for luck tried my beolink 1000 on tv and again no adverse aux appearing. What’s odd is that the now rogue beo4 nav works perfectly in every other way that I’ve used it. Wish I had thought to try this much earlier. One lives and learns.

Thank you all for your many suggestions and advice re solutions. I’m happy It’s working as expected.
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Guy replied on Tue, May 4 2021 8:46 PM

The Beo4 Navi has a 'zones' setting that may be causing the discrepancy.  From the user guide:

 

Beo4 zones (ZONE?)

ALL Used if you have one Beo4 in each room for all your products (default

setting).

VIDEO Used if you have more than one Beo4 in a room and you want to use

it to activate both video and audio sources via your video product.

AUDIO Used if you have more than one Beo4 in a room and you want to use

it to activate both audio and video sources via your audio product.

LINK Used if you have, for example, more than one television in the same

room (Option 4). Refer to the Guide enclosed with your product. 

 

I think it may be in 'Audio'.  Maybe try resetting to default?

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altist replied on Wed, May 5 2021 8:59 AM
Thank you I will give that a try later as it might well explain the problems I have had.
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altist replied on Wed, May 5 2021 11:53 AM
Guy ,

Sheer brilliance…as I went into the zone menu it came up as audio interestingly and so I reset to ALL and bingo it’s not operating the BM6500. Thank you for that information which might be if use your there as well at some point.
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Guy replied on Wed, May 5 2021 12:31 PM

Great news - thanks for letting us know, and I am glad that it is all working as you wish Smile

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