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BeoLink NL/ML connections

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Tom Posted: Fri, Jul 2 2021 2:02 PM

Hi everyone,

This is my first post, and am hoping someone can help me with what is hopefully a simple connection question.

I would like to connect a BeoSound 3000 into a BeoVision Avant 55NG so that it can play through the various surround sound speakers.  I have the NL/ML BeoLink convertor but lost as to how I connect this as there are so many options, and am struggling to make sense of the manual or any links online.

Master Link (?) from BeoSound into NL/ML is ok as there is only one option, but is it then r45 to TV, and if so, into and from which connection options?

Any help really appreciated, and apologies if this is an obvious question/answer.

Thanks

Tom

 

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Hi Tom

Do you have the RJ45 from your converter into the TV directly?

It’s supposed to go into a switch or router on the same network as the Avant?

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Tom replied on Fri, Jul 2 2021 2:59 PM

Hi Seanie, thank you for replying.

It's not connected to the TV at the moment as wasnt sure where to connect, and was running out of plugs.

Does this mean I need to connect the NL/ML into a router and not the TV?   Makes sense as I had never realised that NL meant Linked to the Network!

Thank you so much - think this could be the answer.

Just need to figure a way to connect it now... maybe via tp-link

 

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Carolpa replied on Fri, Jul 2 2021 4:56 PM

Connection:

1. BS3000 - ML connect to - BLC (Beolink converter NL/ML) - LAN connect to your network

2. BV Avant - preferabel LAN connect to the same Network as your BLC (otherwise use WiFi)

 

Setup:

Open setup of the BLC (B&o app beter easier on a Mac/PC).

I presume you have all the speakers connected to the Avant.

Goto tab: Configuration, sub tab Settings:

1. check ML enabled

2. ML-role = V Master

3. Confirm with Save (do this with every change, otherwise the settings may not be changed)

4. Goto sub tab Experience mapped to NL

5. enable/check the sources of the BS3000 (CD, Radio, Aux). Note: you can rename the sources to, for example, CD3000, AUX3000, etc. 

6. Confirm with Save

 

How to Play CD/Radio/Aux

1. open B&o app 

2. add the BLC (only the first time needed)

3. goto Home

4. choose BLC

5. tab the BLC name on the black stroke (left below on the app)

6 choose "..."

7. select your source (Radio/cd/aux), the source should start to play

8. when play, select "multiroom" (the two rectangles)

9. add the Avant

10. point 8 and 9 can be replaced, by selecting JOIN on your Beoremote One

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Tom replied on Fri, Jul 2 2021 5:19 PM
Wow! Thank you so much for such a detailed and comprehensive answer.

You’re right, all speakers are through tv and tv is LAN connected to network via an extender.

Will buy some LAN cables or another tp-link extender tomorrow, and work through these steps.

Really pleased as have never been able to work this out before! Will be very happy to post that it’s up and running.

Thanks again

Tom
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Happy days

I had an avant 55 for years beautiful TV.

Sometimes I miss my old stereo but have no need for one anymore.

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Razlaw replied on Fri, Jul 2 2021 9:06 PM
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Razlaw replied on Sat, Jul 3 2021 3:56 PM
Coincidentally, with this thread appearing recently, I received a converter yesterday from my dealer.

I have been trying to get it set up. I have an Essence, V1, Core, and M5. On the Masterlink side I have a BV10, BV7, BS3000, BS5, and an active kit.

I have successfully set it up so that the BS3000 and BS5 can be played through the NetLink products.

I have not been able, however, to get the NetLink products to play through the MasterLink products.

That should be possible, correct? In the Masterlink settings of the converter I have set DVD and DVD2 to control Music and TuneIn from the Core. I am very new at this, less than 24 hours.

Thanks for any suggestions.

Edit…

Active kit now works, can play NetLink sources through it.’now, I am just stuck trying to get NetLink sources to play through speakers connected to BV10.

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Carolpa replied on Sat, Jul 3 2021 5:52 PM

Razlaw:
That should be possible, correct? In the Masterlink settings of the converter I have set DVD and DVD2 to control Music and TuneIn from the Core. I am very new at this, less than 24 hours.

Razlaw:
I have been trying to get it set up. I have an Essence, V1, Core, and M5. On the Masterlink side I have a BV10, BV7, BS3000, BS5, and an active kit.
Not sure about DVD2, but DVD will not work this way (presuming the BV7 has a DVD unit). If a DVD command is send this way to ML, which source should start, the DVD of the BV7 or/and Music of the Core? A contradiction!

You should, instead of DVD/DVD2, use ML sources not physically available (PC or V.AUX2).

 

Note: because your BS5 in combo with a BS3000, you can not set the ML role to Source Center. Then the NL sources could be programmed as N.Radio/N.Music in the ML side of the system; and because of the BS3000 the CD/Radio command can't be used..

The solution to this issue would be introducing a second BLC.

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Razlaw replied on Sat, Jul 3 2021 9:00 PM
Thanks! My BV7 does not have the built in DVD player. I will try other commands as you suggest.

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Carolpa replied on Sat, Jul 3 2021 9:17 PM
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than DVD should work one would say

Did you program the IR mapping correctly?
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Razlaw replied on Sat, Jul 3 2021 9:27 PM
DVD did work in the room with the Active Kit. Now have a much more major problem. All of the settings seem to be the same to me, but must not be…LOL.

The BS3000 and BS5 will now not turn on..If I try to use CD as a source via NetLink on the V1…..the V1 displays CD but the 3000 does not turn on. Even if I sit in the same room as the 3000, 10 and 5, they will not turn on using the BR1. The BV10 also will turn on.

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Razlaw replied on Sat, Jul 3 2021 10:17 PM
Disconnected converter. Unplugged ML products and plugged back in. All works as it should. Reconnected converter….BS3000, 5 and BV10 dead.

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Razlaw replied on Sat, Jul 3 2021 11:11 PM
Everything is working again. Found a box that was checked in menu assigning a source to tv. Removing that seemed to solve problem. Except, still no NL sources on BV10. DVD works to start a NL source on Active kit. Neither DVD or PC will start NL source on BV10.

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Razlaw replied on Sat, Jul 3 2021 11:12 PM
Carolpa:

Did you program the IR mapping correctly?

I am not sure. I will take another look at it. I am not sure if I fully understand that menu.

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Razlaw replied on Sun, Jul 4 2021 12:13 AM
Made some changes in the IR mapping settings. Entire system died. Nothing would turn on. Disconnected converter. Everything still dead. Unplugged everything and all is back to normal….normal without the converter…so I can use TVs etc this evening.

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beojeff replied on Sun, Jul 4 2021 4:28 AM

Carolpa is correct.

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beojeff replied on Sun, Jul 4 2021 4:29 AM

Carolpa:
Razlaw:

 

Thanks! My BV7 does not have the built in DVD player. I will try other commands as you suggest. Beolab 50s Beolab 9s Beolab 12-3s Beolab 1s Beolab 6000s 2 pairs Beolab 4000s Beovision 7-55 Beovision 10-40 Beoplay V1 32 inch Beovision Avant 32 inch Beosound 1 (CD player) Beosound 3000 Beosound 5 Core Essence MKII Beoplay M5

 

than DVD should work one would say

 

Did you program the IR mapping correctly?

Carolpa is correct.

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Razlaw replied on Sun, Jul 4 2021 5:03 AM

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Carolpa replied on Sun, Jul 4 2021 5:18 AM

Razlaw:
DVD did work in the room with the Active Kit. Now have a much more major problem. All of the settings seem to be the same to me, but must not be…LOL.

 

The BS3000 and BS5 will now not turn on..If I try to use CD as a source via NetLink on the V1…..the V1 displays CD but the 3000 does not turn on. Even if I sit in the same room as the 3000, 10 and 5, they will not turn on using the BR1. The BV10 also will turn on.

Thinking about your system, the trick using video sources for audio sources won’t work 100% correctly. 
1. The BV10 or BV7 doesn’t have a source programmed as DVD?

2. You have to free audio sources to work, but almost all are used

3. Try using A.Mem

 

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Carolpa replied on Sun, Jul 4 2021 5:35 AM

My integration of ML in NL:

1. The system is completely NL based

2. BSys 7000 is connected using a T1611 to a BLC and primary linked to my BV11

3. BS9000 BLC connected (ASlave: primary linked to Shape)

4. BS3000 BLC connected (ASlave: primary linked to BS35)

So I can start a ML audio source locally as a source of a NL device and Join it on all my NL devices.

This way you will not be limited by ML sources available.

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Razlaw replied on Sun, Jul 4 2021 11:05 AM
Carolpa:

Thinking about your system, the trick using video sources for audio sources won’t work 100% correctly. 1. The BV10 or BV7 doesn’t have a source programmed as DVD?

2. You have to free audio sources to work, but almost all are used

3. Try using A.Mem

Correct. Nothing is programmed as DVD. Tried A Mem previously. It does not work either unfortunately.

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Carolpa replied on Sun, Jul 4 2021 1:03 PM

Razlaw:

 

2 questions:

a. your ML are all linked? Audio and Video Masters are? How is the BS5 integrated; which commands start N.Music/N.Radio in the BS5. 

b. the settings of the BLC? please make additional pictures.

 

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Razlaw replied on Sun, Jul 4 2021 1:15 PM
Carolpa:

2 questions:

a. your ML are all linked? Audio and Video Masters are? How is the BS5 integrated; which commands start N.Music/N.Radio in the BS5. BV 10 and BS3000 are masters.

b. the settings of the BLC? please make additional pictures.

Yes, BV7, BV10, Beolink Active, BS3000, BS5 all connected by Masterlink and controlled with N Music and N Radio Commands.

This morning I tried the PC and DVD commands on the Active. It did turn the speakers on but no sound. Interestingly is the Essence if turned on, the PC and DVD commands to the Active turn the Essence off.

Thank you so much for your help!

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Razlaw replied on Sun, Jul 4 2021 1:19 PM
Couple more pictures….everything works fine playing ML sources to NL products.

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Carolpa replied on Sun, Jul 4 2021 1:33 PM

Razlaw:
Couple more pictures….everything works fine playing ML sources to NL products.

 

 

Goto Home in the app. Choose the Beolink Converter NL/ML. Open multiroom (two rectangles). Join the Essence. Sound?

 

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Carolpa replied on Sun, Jul 4 2021 1:37 PM

Razlaw:
Carolpa:

 

2 questions:

 

a. your ML are all linked? Audio and Video Masters are? How is the BS5 integrated; which commands start N.Music/N.Radio in the BS5. BV 10 and BS3000 are masters.

 

b. the settings of the BLC? please make additional pictures.

 

 

Yes, BV7, BV10, Beolink Active, BS3000, BS5 all connected by Masterlink and controlled with N Music and N Radio Commands.

 

This morning I tried the PC and DVD commands on the Active. It did turn the speakers on but no sound. Interestingly is the Essence if turned on, the PC and DVD commands to the Active turn the Essence off.

 

Thank you so much for your help!

 

 

 

 

the ML role is set to V Master, but note on ML side you already have a A.Master. This will introduce trouble in your setup! 

 

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Razlaw replied on Sun, Jul 4 2021 4:25 PM
Carolpa:

the ML role is set to V Master, but note on ML side you already have a A.Master. This will introduce trouble in your setup!

I have tried it with both the BV 10 and 7 set to option 6 instead of 2. Did not change results.

I am not home but will try your other suggestion when I get home.

Thanks again!

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Razlaw replied on Sun, Jul 4 2021 5:07 PM
Carolpa:

Goto Home in the app. Choose the Beolink Converter NL/ML. Open multiroom (two rectangles). Join the Essence. Sound?

Here is what I see when I try accessing the converter from the app. Wonder why Tune In is visible, but music from Essence is not. And can not get Tune In to play from the screen shown here.

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Razlaw replied on Sun, Jul 4 2021 5:08 PM
Couple more pictures….CD works through converter.

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Razlaw replied on Sun, Jul 4 2021 5:15 PM
A little progress…but do not know why…..PC does start Tune In from the Essence on the BV7. Can not get music/Deezer to start. However, if I press PC, start Tune In, can then go in to Essence on app and switch there to Deezer and that will then play through BV7. PC does nothing with the BV10. PC with the Active Kit turns the speakers on but no sound.

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Carolpa replied on Sun, Jul 4 2021 5:28 PM
Sorry, I didn’t pay attention.

The problem is NL sources to be heard on ML.

So how are the sources set on the tab “Sources visible on ML”.
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Carolpa:

Sorry, I didn’t pay attention.

The problem is NL sources to be heard on ML.

So how are the sources set on the tab “Sources visible on ML”.

No need to apologize for anything……I am so very appreciative of your help.

Here is a picture.

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Razlaw replied on Sun, Jul 4 2021 5:52 PM
And the issue/problem gets weirder…….checked the option setting on the Active Kit. I had mistakenly been using Audio Option instead of Link Option on it. Now have set it to option 6.

DVD turns on Deezer on Active Kit, but does nothing on BV7 and 10.

PC turns on Tune In on BV7, nothing on BV10, and turns speakers on with Active but no sound.

Very strange….lol

PC and DVD have both started working on BV7 Smile

BV10 and Active are as above. Indifferent

Edit …..unplugged everything and restarted it all. Same as above, BV 7 working perfectly, which ironically I do not need as also have a Core connected to the 50s in that room. Still nothing with BV10, and Deezer but no Tune In on Active Kit.

At this point I am thinking it is more of a MasterLink issue than a converter issue as converter works fine with BV7. But, can not think what the problem might be. Active is in correct option and I have tried all options on the 10 LOL.

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1990 replied on Sun, Jul 4 2021 7:07 PM

What happens when you map a NL-source to eg CAMERA? 

 

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Razlaw replied on Sun, Jul 4 2021 7:24 PM
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What happens when you map a NL-source to eg CAMERA?

I have not tried camera but have tried a couple others with no success.

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1990 replied on Sun, Jul 4 2021 8:14 PM

BeoTalk Willie might have some ideas over on YouTube

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Razlaw replied on Sun, Jul 4 2021 8:30 PM
1990:

BeoTalk Willie might have some ideas over on YouTube

Yes, he might. Thought that while I was watching today’s podcast.

I am beginning to think there may be a problem with the Masterlink cabling to the BV 10. Trying to decide how I might want to investigate that possibility.

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Razlaw replied on Sun, Jul 4 2021 9:19 PM
Some progress. I disconnected the BS3000 from the room with the BV10 and BS5. I moved it to the room where the Active Kit is. I replaced the Active Kit with the BS3000. Everything now works in that room.

Still can not get BV10 to work however.

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Carolpa replied on Mon, Jul 5 2021 4:46 AM
For testing sake you should disconnect the bs3000 or BS5.

Set the BLC Ml role to Sound Center.

Program the BLC.

Note: if you choose the BS3000 to disconnect, set the sources of the bs5 to Cd and A.Mem, to have the sources N.Music, N.Radio free

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