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Beocord 1200 reel to reel

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marc Posted: Wed, Feb 20 2013 8:34 PM

Picked this beocord 1200 up today don't no to much about these its in mint condition and perfect working order and it also came  with a load of reels to go with it, i bought it to go with the 5000 system which it does not look to out of place.

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I have one in white, with one reel that JandyT kindly gave to me of Frankie Goes to Hollywood.

You're lucky it's working. The belts have usually slackened so that there is much wow and plenty 'o flutter. My counter didn't work either, but new belts from Martin sorted that one out.

What's the soundstage like from those Beovoxes? Must be a bit narrow?!

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marc replied on Wed, Feb 20 2013 9:18 PM

Yes i do find you have to be positioned in front of them as they are very directional 

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Oh Marc you have me crying here, BL 5000 system, then BL 8000 sys, and now this, I have wanted one for at least 3 years, but non turns up here in the wild west. Enjoy itYes - thumbs up

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jandyt replied on Wed, Feb 20 2013 9:58 PM

j0hnbarker:
one reel that JandyT kindly gave to me of Frankie Goes to Hollywood.

Ha!   Have you not recorded over it yet?   
Craig gave it me, he's the one to blame!Wink 

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j0hnbarker replied on Wed, Feb 20 2013 10:01 PM

jandyt:

j0hnbarker:
one reel that JandyT kindly gave to me of Frankie Goes to Hollywood.

Ha!   Have you not recorded over it yet?   
Craig gave it me, he's the one to blame!Wink 

No! It's the only one I have :)

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marc replied on Wed, Feb 20 2013 10:08 PM

the very nice person i had it off gave me a load of reels and a good few must be original  recordings in there boxes.

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jandyt:

Ha! Have you not recorded over it yet? Craig gave it me, he's the one to blame!

Andy,

It's really nice to hear from you - how are you?

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valve1 replied on Thu, Feb 21 2013 7:38 PM

marc:

the very nice person i had it off gave me a load of reels and a good few must be original  recordings in there boxes.

marc

Marc you are really getting the goodies !

 

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marc replied on Thu, Feb 21 2013 10:28 PM
Yes I think I was in the right place at the right time, however as good as it is I,ve done some research and it would have been the 2000 deluxe model that was more apropeate for the 5000 system so this might have go for sale if I find a 2000 model in good Heath.

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The Beocord 1200 is a fine deck, congratulations. They always seem to have issues with the brake/back tension system; mine did also have some problems with a blown capacitor in the playback electronics...

The correct model for a Beolab 5000 after 1968 would be a Beocord 1800, which is very similar to the more elaborate 2400. Most are half track models, but can play back quarter track tapes thanks to an extra head. Both the 1200 and the older series has Bogen heads which are great sounding but fast wearing.

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marc replied on Mon, Feb 25 2013 8:11 PM
I have had some time to play this beocord and it sounds great, the very nice guy I had this from even done some recordings of music that I was into and sent them with it, the working condition of the beocord is as good as any b&o hifi I've ever had.

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jandyt replied on Wed, Mar 6 2013 8:40 PM

Aw how nice Left HugCleve.Right Hug  I'm still trudging along here. Been better but many people are in a worse situation than me. Mustn't grumble.

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Puncher replied on Wed, Mar 6 2013 9:17 PM

j0hnbarker:

jandyt:

j0hnbarker:
one reel that JandyT kindly gave to me of Frankie Goes to Hollywood.

Ha!   Have you not recorded over it yet?   
Craig gave it me, he's the one to blame!Wink 

No! It's the only one I have :)

Somewhere in my past life I had a pre-recorded 1/4" Sergeant Peppers in the original box etc. ............I've never knowingly gave it away or sold it and so, theoretically, I still have it somewhere!

Last seen ~1980, chances of seeing it again, slightly less than winning the lottery!Sad

EDIT: just checked, and if the version for sale on ebay is genuine then it's only worth £75, I feel (slightly) better!

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Somewhere we have half a dozen Beatles original tape albums. From recollection two were ruined by part over-recording with a twin track machine many many years ago.

Graham

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jandyt replied on Wed, Mar 6 2013 9:31 PM

Watched a fascinating documentary recently about how ELO used a Beocord Reel to Reel to do their multi tracking.  

 

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Peter replied on Wed, Mar 6 2013 9:37 PM

Welcome back stranger!! Smile

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jandyt replied on Wed, Mar 6 2013 10:04 PM

Hey Peter!Left Hug  Just popped inSmile  Good to see you still here. You must have the patience of Job!  

 

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Peter replied on Wed, Mar 6 2013 10:19 PM

Just here to make sure we all play nicely - and to keep my eye on the vintage bits and pieces! But you and Puncher are not here that much! Big Smile

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Puncher replied on Wed, Mar 6 2013 10:24 PM

Peter:

Just here to make sure we all play nicely - and to keep my eye on the vintage bits and pieces! But you and Puncher are not here that much! Big Smile

Oh, I'm still here to dispute the odd nonsense post now and then!!Big Smile

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jandyt:

Watched a fascinating documentary recently about how ELO used a Beocord Reel to Reel to do their multi tracking.  

 

I saw that too. It was really great, though Jeff Lynne used it mostly before they were called ELO. He did start his producing career with a 2000 Deluxe Smile

 

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jandyt replied on Wed, Mar 6 2013 10:30 PM

Peter:
keep my eye on the vintage bits and pieces

That's good.Smile
 The newer stuff has is out of my reach and therefore my interest in the brand has greatly reduced. Still got all the same stuff I hadWink but not quite as enthusiastic as I was before.  I do pop in occasionally, but the community isn't like it used to be in the good old days, so I don't stop long.
Hope you, Jo and Eleanor are well. Smile

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jandyt replied on Wed, Mar 6 2013 10:33 PM

I have one of them Søren   Lying dormant in my er ... dormitory  bedroom.Smile

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jandyt:

I have one of them Søren   Lying dormant in my er ... dormitory  bedroom.Smile

I am happy with my Beocord 1800 which has almost identical performance, it enjoys a revival in my bedroom - where it plays back 7" reels recorded on my half track B77 HS Wink

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Peter replied on Thu, Mar 7 2013 8:15 AM

The 1200 was one of the last B&O reel to reel decks. Very nicelystyled and designed so it could be used upright. It did not have the performance of the 1800 or 2400 which were just about professional machines but served a useful purpose.I have had a 1200, 1500 and a 2400 but have given them all to Tim who appreciates them! Always seemed just a bit too inconvenient for me!!

Peter

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Søren, "fast wearing" ?

Have the Bogen heads had general issues if need of replaycement ?

Almost impossible to find today I asume. ?

 

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Christian Christensen:

Søren, "fast wearing" ?

Have the Bogen heads had general issues if need of replaycement ?

Almost impossible to find today I asume. ?

 

Christian

Don't worry too much - they were the best heads available back then, along with the Woelke heads that came with Revox and Studer decks.

I have used my 1800 for lots of hours with both new, well calendered (polished) tape and older abrasive (think AGFA PER525, BASF LGR50 and Scotch 203) and they still seem fine; I just know that they are made of soft permalloy, but the wear time should still reside in the 200-300 hours region (if not more; the soft Revox heads last a little longer.)

If the heads are pretty worn you should still be able to pull some extra life out of them through a relapping (albeit expensive.)

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300 hours is nothing.
Consinder a person that bought a recorder 1968 and played an onehour tape everyday, the tapeheads on that machine would be really bad 1969.

Which some 40 years later would mena there is a huge possibility that all heads are in horrible shape now.

How do we identify a bad tapehead ?
Sounds bad ?
Impossible to trim BIAS to accuired treble level ?

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Kevin replied on Sun, Oct 13 2019 3:19 PM

I saw a documentary years ago, he was re producing ELO music and he pointed it out sitting on the floor of his studio.

 

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