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I’m in the lucky situation that my wife actually likes the Beolab 28’s and think it is a nice solution to have the sources build into the speakers, and that they sound absolutely great.
We have a Essence MK I, which is crap and will be ditched very soon. With this “BL 28 window” open, I have started to re-think my whole setup, because I’m still in the master link world (and a little bit MCL), and I’m not ready to change all my B&O.
Investing in BL28’s, a NL/ML converter and some Core’s will actually give me a very functional multiroom solution using much of the equipment I already have, but I need a few advice's and a opinion if it will work as I expect.
You can see my current setup in the first drawing here. (next post will show my planned setup and my questions)
What I expect to get out of the update:
Questions:
next post awaiting moderator...
I'm not sure how this moderator thing works, so I'll try again
That is some kind of plan that you have there!
I am not so sure that you have to change that much right away.
Maybe start with adding the 28's to the main tv........and move the BL2 to the Basement
I would exchange the Essence MK1 (connected to the Beocenter 9500) with a Core (set to fixed output).
This way you can still access the sources of the Core in the old Linkrooms (via the app).
No NL/ML Converter needed for time being - once you will have to replace the tv in the living room, you might need one.
When you have the 28's in the living room, you have all new sources there right away (at your fingertip).
Means that you can have music/B&O-Radio in the Livingroom and still have access to netradio or music in the bathroom or on the terrasse ( = everywhere where you'd keep the existing ML structure). And with the existing ML you can listen to the Beogram on the BV7 in the livingroom..
If there is one place that is heavily used independently of other activities in the setup, you might start there replacing with the planned Core's - as an example the Wine Cellar
I would do it one step at a time, once you need it - please don't just ditch the ML, that you already have.
I have a mixed/grown over the years setup too - don't throw over board what works.
MM
There is a tv - and there is a BV
Thanks for the reply, MMMy post with my questions is also waiting for moderators - maybe it is because I wrote it all in advance and copied it in, so I posted really fast, and then the systems thinks it is spam...
You already answered a few of my questions, but here comes the full list again. I can follow you in taking it step by step, but you also need to move while the window is still open for new purchased :) - you never know when that will happen again :)
Thanks MMI just wrote a long answer, but that is also "waiting" for moderator approval - don't know what i'm doing wrong. Is there a limit to the length of the text or something?
Beoworld app with direct photo upload and emoticons.
MartinRK:Thanks MM I just wrote a long answer, but that is also "waiting" for moderator approval - don't know what i'm doing wrong. Is there a limit to the length of the text or something?
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Razlaw: MartinRK: Thanks MM I just wrote a long answer, but that is also "waiting" for moderator approval - don't know what i'm doing wrong. Is there a limit to the length of the text or something? I don’t think you are doing anything wrong. I have had multiple posts go to moderation in the past for no apparent reason. One thing that I feel like may trigger it, ironically, is mentioning too many B and O products too many times. Many of the posts I gave had disappear in to moderation fit that description.
MartinRK: Thanks MM I just wrote a long answer, but that is also "waiting" for moderator approval - don't know what i'm doing wrong. Is there a limit to the length of the text or something?
Thanks MM I just wrote a long answer, but that is also "waiting" for moderator approval - don't know what i'm doing wrong. Is there a limit to the length of the text or something?
I don’t think you are doing anything wrong. I have had multiple posts go to moderation in the past for no apparent reason. One thing that I feel like may trigger it, ironically, is mentioning too many B and O products too many times. Many of the posts I gave had disappear in to moderation fit that description.
Sad stories - I also wonder why?
Yesterday I wrote a rather lenghty post in another thread…..took me ages to do that.
And boom - gone into moderation!
No links, no swearing etc in that….I know pretty well what not to write
I'll try again, and do it a bit shorter...
Do you see any limitations in the use of the BL 28 speakers as Multiroom speakers when they are connected to the BV as well - here I think on the wide narrow modes etc.
Is it correct, that if I go for the NL/ML converter, I will be able to see and control all the Beocenter sources (Radio, CD, Tape and Phono) in the app and on a BR1?
Since there is no speakers connected directly to the NL/ML converter in the new setup, I probably need to join from BL28 or another room to hear the sound, but that is okay, but could that be set up automatically with “MyButtons” on a BR1 or in a Halo if I have a Halo in the living room?
And a few more questions :)
Millemissen:No NL/ML Converter needed for time being - once you will have to replace the tv in the living room, you might need one.
Razlaw:Also, you mention DLNA to the Core. I believe you can connect the 28s directly to DLNA.
MartinRK:If I start a radio station on the BL28’s, can I join that from the Core’s and the A6, or do I have to start the radio station again from a Core in TuneIn as well – and will there be a sync problem here?
Carolpa: Millemissen:No NL/ML Converter needed for time being - once you will have to replace the tv in the living room, you might need one.Need..... okay not, but is one ones to listen to the BC9500 would make the access and compatibility easier. The access and control will work from all rooms, incl the BeoGram, if I go for the converter - can you confirm that? Razlaw:Also, you mention DLNA to the Core. I believe you can connect the 28s directly to DLNA. Correct MartinRK:If I start a radio station on the BL28’s, can I join that from the Core’s and the A6, or do I have to start the radio station again from a Core in TuneIn as well – and will there be a sync problem here?Yes you can JOIN the other NL products to the BL28 without a sync issue.
The access and control will work from all rooms, incl the BeoGram, if I go for the converter - can you confirm that?
so if I play a radio station from a Core from TuneIn, I can join that from the BL 28 even though BL28 has B&O Radio and not TuneIn ?
And also the other way around (B&O Radio from BL 28 to a Core and/or Beoplay A6 ?)
MartinRK:so if I play a radio station from a Core from TuneIn, I can join that from the BL 28 even though BL28 has B&O Radio and not TuneIn ? And also the other way around (B&O Radio from BL 28 to a Core and/or Beoplay A6 ?)
PhilLondon:One first remark... I read the Beolink Passive (as speakers), the Beolab 3000 and 4500 have issues working with the Core. I have the Beolab 3000 and the Core and NL/ML Converter (used as a Beolink active) don't turn the speaker on. It is documented in a thread somewhere on the forum. Also, I’m not sure if they still do the Core with IR. You might want to use a Essence MK II instead. But it may have the same problem with the BeoLink passive. Beoworld app with direct photo upload and emoticons. Other apps: Conslt , The Story Mouse .
MartinRK: If IR eyes are not sold by B&O anymore, I have to find them on the secondhand market.
The Core does not have a connection for the IR. Only some early model had it. The essence MKII has this connection.
You'll need a Bluetooth remote, such as the Beoremote One BT, the essence remote...
isn't it the other way around, so the early models didn't have the IR connection?
This thread tells about the difference between Core mk1 and mk2, that has the IR connection (mk2, type no 3051)
Beosound Core Mk1 and Mk2 Differences? - (beoworld.org)
MartinRK: isn't it the other way around, so the early models didn't have the IR connection? This thread tells about the difference between Core mk1 and mk2, that has the IR connection (mk2, type no 3051) Beosound Core Mk1 and Mk2 Differences? - (beoworld.org)
Correct!
Oops, sorry!
Well, that's a good surprise then, I own one of the new one and had no idea. But then where do you connect it??
Just bought a almost unused NL/ML Converter for 2.800 Dkr (375€), so I can try to play around with my setup
For now I will just try to unplug the BC9500/BG9500 from the ML system, connect it to the converter and see how it turns up in the B&O app.
Since I have Beoplay A6 as the only multiroom device for now, I will try to play the BC/BG through this as a start.
Can't really figure out if I will get any challenges with the BG9500 as N-Radio source together with TuneIn on the A6.
Is TuneIn/B&O Radio considered as N-Radio source in a multiroom setup with Cores and BL28, or is the Phono/N-Radio command conflict a leftover from the good old Masterlink and Beo4 days ?
and I also have to figure out if I can rename the N-Radio to Phono (or BG9500), so I will see that name in the app...
I have installed the NL/ML Converter with the Beocenter 9500/Beogram 9500, and it works perfect controlling all sources through the app
Many of my questions are now answered
I have renamed the converter and added it as a primarily product to the Beoplay A6 in the Beolink settings in the app, and I can see and control the BC sources together with the A6 sources - just great
MartinRK:I have installed the NL/ML Converter with the Beocenter 9500/Beogram 9500, and it works perfect controlling all sources through the app Many of my questions are now answered I have renamed the converter and added it as a primarily product to the Beoplay A6 in the Beolink settings in the app, and I can see and control the BC sources together with the A6 sources - just great
If a Beocenter 9500 source is playing on the A6 and you want to extent this source to other products it is possible the A6 in the app says it can't be extended. Then choose the Beocenter 9500 BLC in the app and extent the playing source from here to other products.
Carolpa:Nice work! If a Beocenter 9500 source is playing on the A6 and you want to extent this source to other products it is possible the A6 in the app says it can't be extended. Then choose the Beocenter 9500 BLC in the app and extent the playing source from here to other products.