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Beocenter 2 to non-B&O TV - HELP STILL NEEDED!!!!!!

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Jonathan Posted: Thu, Mar 7 2013 4:22 AM

Hi Beoworlders,

I'm trying to connect a BC2 to a Samsung TV that doesn't have a scart input. I used a Scart -> 3RCA (red, white, yellow) and there is nothing...

Also, which option should I set the BC2 to? Option 6?

I've read the manual and read through the archived forums, but can't get my head around it...

Any help would be greatly appreciated Yes - thumbs up

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Guy replied on Thu, Mar 7 2013 8:53 AM

I don't have a BC2 but have also just had a look at the manual. 

The problem could be with your SCART to RCA lead, as the RCAs may well be connected to the 'input' pins of the SCART, rather than the 'output' pins.  I have a similar SCART to RCA cable with a switch on the side of the SCART to select whether it is an input or output - you need the latter.

Alternatively, rather than use a SCART to 3RCA lead, have you tried using RCA to RCA, connecting the Red and White 'Line out' , and the Yellow 'video out' connections of the socket unit to the corresponding inputs on the TV?

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Jonathan replied on Thu, Mar 7 2013 11:46 PM

Thanks Guy, I'll give that a shot later today.

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I have 2 scart leads you can have for nothing if you want.

they are scart > component or scart > composite

maybe worth a try and I will never use them - don't have any scart stuff (besides foxtel boxes) but they're all HDMI now

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Rikard replied on Sat, Mar 9 2013 5:52 AM

I had a BC2 to a Samsung tv a while ago, it worked great. Scart to RCA to the tv. Did it all work out for you? 

 

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Jonathan replied on Thu, Mar 14 2013 1:20 AM

OK, so I tried the suggested solution and got the following results:

  • I can get a DVD to play on the TV, and can get sound from a CD. When I select RADIO there is nothing on the TV (it shows 'NO SIGNAL' on the screen) and no sound.
  • The BC2 doesn't respond to the Beo4 when a DVD is playing, only when a CD or the radio is selected.
  • The door opens when the LOAD button is pressed, but the clear disc cover doesn't. If I press load again the clear cover raises up then lowers immediately and the doors close
  • I set the menus as per the manual for the SCART connections

So overall, this isn't working. I used a SCART with the INPUT/OUTPUT switch and a red/white/yellow RCA cable from the CART adapter to the TV.

Can anyone suggest how I can resolve this? If I connect the BC2 to a B&O TV it works perfectly. I'm at a total loss as to how to resolve this

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hfat replied on Thu, Mar 14 2013 1:25 PM

Hi Jonathan,

To which v.Opt did you set BC2? In my opinion it should by set to 1 as it has no ML connection.

DVD Options: SCART SENSO OUT: NO, DVD SOUND: SCART, SCART VIDEO OUT: RGB

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Jonathan replied on Thu, Mar 14 2013 10:13 PM

Hi hfat,

That's exactly how it is set. I tested Option 0 and Option 2 as well just in case...

Jonathan

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1983beo replied on Fri, Mar 15 2013 7:21 AM
Jonathan

If you presss radio of course there Will be no sound at your Samsung tv. There is only sound on the powerlink out for the B&O speakers.

If you want sound from the radio use the aux output to the tv. But i can't imagine why you want to listen to radio true your Samsung tv.

I think you have a Beocenter 2 mk1. You Have to press go go or go arrow up/down to Control it. When the Beocenter 2 is in option 2 off course.

They load button is bot working well. Try an power reset and look if it's working.
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Jonathan replied on Fri, Mar 15 2013 9:15 AM

1983beo:
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If you presss radio of course there Will be no sound at your Samsung tv. There is only sound on the powerlink out for the B&O speakers.

 

 

If you want sound from the radio use the aux output to the tv. But i can't imagine why you want to listen to radio true your Samsung tv.

 

 

This is one point where I'm confused... Why do I get sound from a DVD or a CD but not from the radio????

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1983beo replied on Fri, Mar 15 2013 12:34 PM
Because dvd=cd and is a video function with picture so sound scart.

Radio is audio so sound via powerlink/masterlink. Same as a.aux. A.aux won't give sound trough scart.

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Jonathan replied on Fri, Mar 15 2013 1:09 PM

...but when I connect it to a B&O TV, I get radio sound through Scart.....

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1983beo replied on Fri, Mar 15 2013 1:39 PM
No if you connect it to a B&O tv you get radio sound trough masterlink which is needed for use on a B&O tv.
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Guy replied on Fri, Mar 15 2013 1:45 PM

but given that when Jonathan connects it to a Beovision he only uses SCART, then the RADIO sound must be travelling down the SCART lead ...

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1983beo replied on Fri, Mar 15 2013 4:55 PM
The Beocenter 2 does not transmit radio or aux input though scart.

Let's make it easy. The scart lead is let's say 'directly connected' to the laser unit. So all other sources are not going to scart. If you connect it to a bang & olufsen tv or to a Samsung it doesn't matter. But of course you can use they aux output for audio to the tv and scart or composite for video. Then the problem is solved.
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Jonathan replied on Fri, Mar 15 2013 10:53 PM

Thanks 1983beo, I guess that makes sense. But that still doesn't explain the other issues I have when it's connected to the Samsung that I don't have when it's connected to a Beovision.....

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kammeri replied on Sat, Mar 16 2013 10:50 AM

Just borrowing an existing thread since the question is rather similar. Has anyone tried to connect the BC2 to a BeoPlay V1, which doesn't have Masterlink? Is it likely to be a hassle as well or is there a workaround provided by B&O?

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1983beo replied on Sat, Mar 16 2013 11:22 AM
Yes. Just add a ml to nl converter and connect the Beocenter 2 with masterlink
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Jonathan replied on Sat, Mar 16 2013 11:50 AM

ok, so that's that answered... still no one with a solution to the problems?

It just doesn't make sense that the loading mechanism on the BC2 works perfectly when connected to a Beovision, but doesn't work properly when connected to the Samsung!?!

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1983beo replied on Sat, Mar 16 2013 12:33 PM
Yes that's very strange. Did you try a.opt 1/2/5/6 ? All the same?

There should be no difference if there is a master link cable connected or not. Master link only distribute remote commands. Commands from the touch pad should always work.

Have to tried a power reset when all cables are connected?
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Jonathan replied on Mon, Mar 18 2013 12:13 AM

Tried all the options, and did a power reset when all cables connected...

It's very strange :/

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Jonathan replied on Tue, Mar 19 2013 11:52 PM

Thanks for your help 1983beo, but I think this seems to be a lost cause!

Unless someone else can help.......

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1983beo replied on Thu, Mar 21 2013 3:48 PM

jonathan,

 

about the thing that you have to press load twice. Is this always there or only when connected to the samsung tv. It is possible that the belt isn't good. Then the beocneter 2 cannot detect that the doors are totally open. In that case you have to replace he belt. 

 

if the problem is only present on a samsung tv and not on the b&o then that's of course not the problem.

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DoubleU replied on Thu, Mar 21 2013 7:56 PM

Is your Samsung ok? 

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Jonathan replied on Thu, Mar 21 2013 11:40 PM

The strange thing is the BC2 works absolutely perfectly when connected to my Beovision 3. Everything works as it should; the doors and DVD loading mechanism, the IR sensor, the radio, the sound, the DVD player.

As soon as it's plugged in to the Samsung the Gremlins come out. The doors play up, the loading mechanism doesn't rise unless you press standby, the radio doesn't work, the BC2 doesn't respond to the remote. The Samsung flat screen works perfectly at all times, regardless of what is connected to it....

I think this is just one of those unsolveable things, as there doesn't seem to be a solution to this :/

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Jonathan replied on Thu, Mar 21 2013 11:40 PM

The strange thing is the BC2 works absolutely perfectly when connected to my Beovision 3. Everything works as it should; the doors and DVD loading mechanism, the IR sensor, the radio, the sound, the DVD player.

As soon as it's plugged in to the Samsung the Gremlins come out. The doors play up, the loading mechanism doesn't rise unless you press standby, the radio doesn't work, the BC2 doesn't respond to the remote. The Samsung flat screen works perfectly at all times, regardless of what is connected to it....

I think this is just one of those unsolveable things, as there doesn't seem to be a solution to this :/

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DoubleU replied on Fri, Mar 22 2013 6:56 AM

What happens if you try to connect with only the RCA (yellow/red/white) to the camera of the BV3?

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Guy replied on Fri, Mar 22 2013 10:13 AM

Is the Samsung a plasma? - could it be a case of 'plasma IR interference'?  Google suggests that a number of people have had this problem, especially with Samsung TVs.

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kallasr replied on Fri, Mar 22 2013 3:56 PM

Had and have similar effect with our Pioneer Plasma.

When it is on the BEO 4 remote does not work anymore...

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Jonathan replied on Fri, Mar 22 2013 10:15 PM

Could this be the case even if it is over 5 metres away?

The Plasma is wall mounted, and the BC2 is way accross the other side of a large living room.

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kallasr replied on Sat, Mar 23 2013 10:50 AM
Yes, even >8 m here...

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Jonathan replied on Sat, Mar 23 2013 12:55 PM

although it still doesn't explain the doors and loading mechanism acting strangely....

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Guy replied on Sat, Mar 23 2013 1:02 PM

but doesn't the BC2 have additional IR sensors that detect your hands approaching and control the doors?  These 'proximity sensors' would equally be confused by stray plasma interference.

Have you tried physically shielding the TV (but be careful not to overheat it if you cover the screen!)

EDIT:  Just looked at the manual - perhaps it doesn't have such sensors?

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Jonathan replied on Sat, Mar 23 2013 1:09 PM

no, it has a 'LOAD' button on the facia

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Guy replied on Sat, Mar 23 2013 1:12 PM

Just realised that and edited!

What about physically shielding?  Cardboard over the TV screen for a quick test?

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