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I´ve been had, 20 USD + 20 USD shipping, , well not a big deal, will use it for parts.
Here goes, lid broken as seller told me, the pick up missing the front plastic piece with MMC5 on it, seller told "Ithink its an MMC2", I knew that no way it would be an MMC2,
Packing: platter out and wrapped good, arm secured, the broken lid packed separately, but transport screws not secured.
pics and what else, here total, the pieces was packed in a plastic bag, and yes the pickup too.
Here the pieces, even the broken piece from the lid is there
Here the MMC, found the plastic piece with MMC5 on it inside the RX
Took off the back plate and bottom cover, carefully because the top plate was loose, all looks clean and without too much use
Desoldered the tonearm wires, the soldering looked like untouched since the factory. And took off the tonearm,
Checked the wires for connection to the pickup socket, non or to arm, took a closer look on the wires and the underside of the arm, check the pick and see where the wires goes
Pulled out the wires very carefully, in the hope that I could save them, came out all of them in the length you can see on the pick, pulled of the tube (arm) from the support, inside the arm nothing, no wires, nothing.
Someone must have tried to take off the tonearm, without desoldering the wires, or pulled of the tonearm from the support and broke or pulled out the wires from the socket, put everything back again best he could and sold it on the bay.
Now I got angry, went on the bay and bought this one
If anyone need spares for a RX, I have them
Collecting Vintage B&O is not a hobby, its a lifestyle.
In the unlikely event the MMC5 works, you made $100 on the deal. And that assumes nothing else has value.
MediaBobNY: In the unlikely event the MMC5 works, you made $100 on the deal. And that assumes nothing else has value.
Will try it out tomorrow, I have been lucky so far, all bay buys are up and running.
Does the motor work, and will it spin the platter? If yes, perhaps you could use this unit for a project I have been thinking about for years: converting a B&O radial deck with damaged dust cover and/or tonearm into a record cleaning machine (like the VPI or Nitty Gritty).
As soon as I buy a better one to replace it, I am going to try this with my daughters' RX2.
I should care for the tonearm with bearing. Would it be possible?
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Rich: Does the motor work, and will it spin the platter? If yes, perhaps you could use this unit for a project I have been thinking about for years: converting a B&O radial deck with damaged dust cover and/or tonearm into a record cleaning machine (like the VPI or Nitty Gritty). As soon as I buy a better one to replace it, I am going to try this with my daughters' RX2.
Thats a good idea, will give it some thought and come back if I find a good solution. You really got whats left of my old brain rotating now.
I just bought an RX on Friday that fixed up nicely. It just needed a suspension spring hanger. And the deck glued down. I'm reviving this thread to ask about the tiny wires in the tone arm that are pictured so nicely. (and broken, Dang!)
Are these wires to be kept seperate? They appear to have no insulation, even. What's the deal? I want to salvage a good tone arm, motor, and belt off a beocenter 7700.
Thanks,
Steve
stevepe: Are these wires to be kept seperate? They appear to have no insulation, even. What's the deal? I want to salvage a good tone arm, motor, and belt off a beocenter 7700.
They are insulated, with lacquer or something like the windings on transformers, there are 5 of them, 1 ground, right + -, left + -. a problem with these tonearm types is, that its impossible to separate the cartridge socket from the tonearm, so if the wires are broken inside the tonearm a repair is impossible.
The RX tonearm looks the same as the RX 2. Can anyone confirm this? Because I'm pretty sure I have a spare in my parts box with the wires still connected to the PCB - a tonearm I'd be happy to give to someone who can use it.
The upper part, (the part over deck) is the same, the part underneath the deck may have some differences in the mech, but shaft diameter should be the same, So yes, compatible and I would love it
Let me dig out what I've got, take a picture, post it here, and go from there.
I can't promise it will happen today because the bourbon has already been poured.
Rich: Let me dig out what I've got, take a picture, post it here, and go from there. I can't promise it will happen today because the bourbon has already been poured
I can't promise it will happen today because the bourbon has already been poured
Good Idea, will mix myself a good Cuba, BTW just watching this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlxHJGD4ULg
I was 17 then so the background music brings back a lot of memories, so does those funny formed cigarettes
Hey, Thanks! I went ahead and removed the arm already after marking the wires with a felt pen. Sure glad I marked them...
I'm loving this TT. My best sounding one yet. The beocenter had an MMC3 on it that is now in use three years on. My girlfriend can now have the 1900 she has been admiring. Gotta have automatic for this chica. Manual scares her.
PS. I'll send you my spare arm if it doesn't work with Rich's RX-2. It would be super light and ship well in a tube.
stevepe: PS. I'll send you my spare arm if it doesn't work with Rich's RX-2. It would be super light and ship well in a tube. Steve
Just fantastic, love you guys, lets see what Rich says, BTW I have an arm from a BG 1200 if needed anywhere
I have an RX2 someone gave me a while back that I have never sorted out or even really looked at. I was hoping for a good needle but alas it wasnt to be. But the free price tag was worth it I suppose.
tamtapir:I should care for the tonearm with bearing. Would it be possible?
Will take a pic from my bearing tomorrow, if you can use it its yours, but it will be difficult to change it without damaging the wires, not impossible but difficult
Ricardo: I have an RX2 someone gave me a while back that I have never sorted out or even really looked at. I was hoping for a good needle but alas it wasnt to be. But the free price tag was worth it I suppose.
I bought one more RX and this bad one will be for spares, hope the other is more or less OK
Did not get out to the garage last night to look in my parts box, but I already have photos of what I have. Take a look at my posts in this thread.
It seems I have the tonearm and the entire base of the table still attached! So what is it I need to send, and to whom am I sending it? This thread seems to have gone off the rails?!?!
Rich:It seems I have the tonearm and the entire base of the table still attached! So what is it I need to send, and to whom am I sending it? This thread seems to have gone off the rails?!?!
unsolder the wires coming from the tonearm, loosen the screw below the counter weight, holding the tonearm to the shaft, lift the tonearm upward and carefully pull out the wires, Send the piece now in your hand to me, I will send the parts that Tamtapir in Sweden needs, if he can use any of what I have here.
Will PM you with the address. International help exchange I just love this
Søren Mexico: tamtapir:I should care for the tonearm with bearing. Would it be possible? Will take a pic from my bearing tomorrow, if you can use it its yours, but it will be difficult to change it without damaging the wires, not impossible but difficult
Søren, I would appreciate it very much. Had almost forgotten that but my broken BG5005 stares sourly on me when it get the opportunity.
I am almost entirely sure that the broken part on my photo farther up in the thread, also can be find in yours RX (hopefully not broken) and that it not will be impossible to replace it. If it were simple we would not care for with it any longer in Europe…
Now. How do we do this?
Here the tonearm rest from the RX, first pic from the counterweight side
Here the arm side, not the same, and the RX2 is nearly the same, No highs adjusting screw as in yours, dont think it will fit. But if you think you can use it. I will send it to you for free.
Søren Mexico: Here the tonearm rest from the RX, first pic from the counterweight side Here the arm side, not the same, and the RX2 is nearly the same, No highs adjusting screw as in yours, dont think it will fit. But if you think you can use it. I will send it to you for free.
Strange. I thought it were the same tonearm in the both modells but that with all other exists for sure 1000 variants. I wonder how many engineers that only worked with updating blueprint's and production instructions back that time.
However, I do gladly an experiment with your tonearm bearing. At least it does not seems to be broken!
tamtapir:However, I do gladly an experiment with your tonearm bearing. At least it does not seems to be broken!
Mail me your address and I will send it tomorrow with priority mail.
I've been delayed in working on the frets for the P45 project. Should be able to bring in the parts box from the garage tonight while waiting for glue to dry on the P45s.
Rich: I've been delayed in working on the frets for the P45 project. Should be able to bring in the parts box from the garage tonight while waiting for glue to dry on the P45s.
No hurry Rich
Sören,
Do you also have the part I marked on this picture?
Søren Mexico: Rich:It seems I have the tonearm and the entire base of the table still attached! So what is it I need to send, and to whom am I sending it? This thread seems to have gone off the rails?!?! unsolder the wires coming from the tonearm, loosen the screw below the counter weight, holding the tonearm to the shaft, lift the tonearm upward and carefully pull out the wires, Send the piece now in your hand to me,
unsolder the wires coming from the tonearm, loosen the screw below the counter weight, holding the tonearm to the shaft, lift the tonearm upward and carefully pull out the wires, Send the piece now in your hand to me,
I didn't have to loosen any screw, to get the tonearm out of the pivot/bearing assembly. I am about to desolder. Looks like I could just snip the wires, but I will try to desolder.
Do you want the counterweight and the tube that connects the counterweight to the tonearm? That counterweight looks like it has bounced around inside a broken turntable three or four times.
tamtapir:Do you also have the part I marked on this picture?
Yes Sir
Rich:Do you want the counterweight and the tube that connects the counterweight to the tonearm? That counterweight looks like it has bounced around inside a broken turntable three or four times.
I have tube and counterweight in good shape so, not needed, and snip the wires close to solder points, no problem.
There is lots of extra tone arm wire down there, but I wonder if snipping them requires cleaning the coating off the ends before they will solder on again. (not that I thought of this before-hand on mine.) They are kind of delicate to deal with if coating removal is necessary. Lacquer could be taken off with acetone, probably, without much trouble. (If that's what it is.)
I vote de-solder...and for shimming voice coils!
stevepe: There is lots of extra tone arm wire down there, but I wonder if snipping them requires cleaning the coating off the ends before they will solder on again. (not that I thought of this before-hand on mine.) They are kind of delicate to deal with if coating removal is necessary. Lacquer could be taken off with acetone, probably, without much trouble. (If that's what it is.) I vote de-solder...and for shimming voice coils!
and yes acetone does it
I desoldered.
BUT I DIDN'T THINK TO MARK THE WIRES UNTIL AFTER I WAS DONE!!!!!!
So, unknown wires at one end. Plus, see photograph. Nothing on the cartridge end to connect a cartridge to! Do you still want this thing? If yes, PM the shipping address.
Here the lifter part
Sorry wrong pic, here goes
What did you do with yours, run it over with the SAAB or feed it to the dog, please hurry up with the address I´m leaving for El Salvador on Sunday
Rich:So, unknown wires at one end. Plus, see photograph. Nothing on the cartridge end to connect a cartridge to! Do you still want this thing? If yes, PM the shipping address.
Sorry for all the work you did, the socket for the cartridge is broken, and as it came off without the aluminum piece connected to the shaft something is broken there too. so no, sorry cant use it, but thank you for the effort
I'm thinking there is a mix up. Soren is maybe sending parts to Sweden and Rich in Florida is sending an arm to Soren in Old Mexico. But it seems like Riches arm has no front and won't solve Soren's Problemo.
Am I at bat to send my extra RX arm to Soren, then?
Maybe. Looks like I am OUT.
Bummer. Back to the P45 frets and bourbon.
It was me that was mixed up. Soren replied to tamtapir right after Rich posted. I need to get more work done but will check in later today.
stevepe:Am I at bat to send my extra RX arm to Soren, then?
Steve I have one more RX coming, its already in McAllen TX, I just have to pick it up, but will take some time. So my suggestion is, keep your tonearm in store until I get the other deck down here, if that deck need parts, I will use from the one I have here, and then I wont need the tonearm, but if it does not need parts I will try to save the other one with your tonearm, I checked it profoundly and it really only needs the arm, so lets wait and see what happens with the other RX. I cant tell how glad I am for all the help I get here, I hope Tamtapir can use my parts for something.
Sounds good. I'll keep my Volvo as far as possible from it until I hear from you.