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BS/BM5 update today? English version!

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Millemissen Posted: Wed, Dec 11 2013 7:14 PM

For those of you who don't read german!!!

In a post - in german language - the user 'Iceman10245' tells about the BS/BM5 update, that came today.

With Spotify in 'slave mode' and the rip-drive as cd-player.

As anyone got this - can anyone tell more?

Note: I don't own a BS/BM5 myself - but this seems to be something that might (again)  make me think of getting one.

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Thanks,

I wouldn't suggest anyone buys the BM5/BS5 until they make it NL compatible (or they officially say they will make it NL compatible), or they bring a new NL Beosound.

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Razlaw replied on Wed, Dec 11 2013 7:29 PM
My Beosound 5 is updating. There is a thread in the Beosound 5 forum that says only update is cd ripper playing CDs. Will see what mine says when I get home later.

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PhilLondon:

Thanks,

I wouldn't suggest anyone buys the BM5/BS5 until they make it NL compatible (or they officially say they will make it NL compatible), or they bring a new NL Beosound.

p.

You may be right about that - but the update is great news for recent BS/BM5 owners anyway.

Chappo B&O - for caring about their costumers.

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The official list of upgrades:

New features
     
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Use CD Ripping Device as CD Player. Please consult updated online user guide for details on how to operate it.
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Support for QQMusic, a Chinese music service
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Support for Spotify and DLNA rendering in setups with another audio master as in standard setups. Please consult updated online user guide for details on how to operate it.
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Introduction of more Top Track and Top Album countries for Spotify. The countries that have been added are: Argentina, Greece, Taiwan, Turkey

Ah, you know... A little B&O here, a little there 

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Carolpa replied on Wed, Dec 11 2013 8:34 PM

Millemissen:

and the rip-drive as cd-player.

As anyone got this - can anyone tell more?

CD player works flawless. One gets the cover and track tittles.

Option: auto rip y/n, format to rip to: wma lossless  or 320, cd repeat, cd random, source on remote (cd, amem,...)

 

note: tried it with an external  USB dvd drive

 

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Hi BeoMegaMan,

the (new) support for chinese QQMusic will be less important for most of the Beoworlders.

But it shows that B&O is willing to supprt more 'Music Services'.

I am still hoping for WIMP HIFi (or Qobuz).

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Carolpa:

CD player works flawless. One gets the cover and track tittles.

Option: auto rip y/n, format to rip to: wma lossless  or 320, cd repeat, cd random, source on remote (cd, amem,...)

note: tried it with an external  USB dvd drive

A pity that FLAC is still left out - guess people would still have to rip external - I would if....

But the CD-'ripper' is now at least usefull - nice that album cover and tracktitles are shown Smile

By the way - which external drive are you using? Is it one with an extra power supply, or does the USB of the BM5 provide enough power?

 

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Razlaw replied on Wed, Dec 11 2013 10:01 PM

PhilLondon:

Thanks,

I wouldn't suggest anyone buys the BM5/BS5 until they make it NL compatible (or they officially say they will make it NL compatible), or they bring a new NL Beosound.

p.

It could be used with the NetLink converter, couldn't it? 

 

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PhilLondon replied on Wed, Dec 11 2013 10:09 PM

Razlaw:
It could be used with the NetLink converter, couldn't it? 

..by NL Link rooms, but it doesn't really make sense, as all current NL products (TVs) and DLNA compatible, so you'd rather connect to the BM5 with a network cable. It would create a wonky setup.

The BM5 has its own Network connection so it could potentially be upgraded.

The whole range is almost upgraded to NL, except for Beosounds, I wouldn't buy anything that's not NL right now.

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Razlaw replied on Wed, Dec 11 2013 10:38 PM

BeoMegaMan:

The official list of upgrades:

New features
     
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Support for Spotify and DLNA rendering in setups with another audio master as in standard setups. Please consult updated online user guide for details on how to operate it.
  ·

this seems to imply that another device such as a Beosound 3000 can be used as Audio Master as well as having the Beosound 5 connected? I have a Beosound 3000 but have never been able to get it to work with the Beosound 5 and have it unplugged for quite some time. What are the option settings to get the 3000 and 5 to work together in the same master link system?

 

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This is a copy of the manual :

If AUDIO MASTER is set to NO, you must activate Spotify – provided that you have an account – by pressing LIST until N.MUSIC is shown in the Beo4 display and then you must press 1. To activate A.AUX, press LIST until N.MUSIC is shown in Beo4 display and then press 2.

If AUDIO MASTER is set to NO, you cannot use the CD Ripping Device as a CD-player.

This means spotify and even the aux port is accessible when used together with an other audio master ...

This is great ! I know what to do saturday :-)
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Razlaw:

this seems to imply that another device such as a Beosound 3000 can be used as Audio Master as well as having the Beosound 5 connected? I have a Beosound 3000 but have never been able to get it to work with the Beosound 5 and have it unplugged for quite some time. What are the option settings to get the 3000 and 5 to work together in the same master link system?

 

Exactly that is THE good news!

 

Settings depends on your setup.

The important thing is that the BS/BM5 does not have to be the 'AudioMaster' any more.

 

MM

 

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Yet another limitation - how/when will we get rid of that???

"If AUDIO MASTER is set to NO, you cannot use the CD Ripping Device as a CD-player."

Which means NO CD-player with another AudioSystem!!!

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Millemissen:

Yet another limitation - how/when will we get rid of that???

" If AUDIO MASTER is set to NO, you cannot use the CD Ripping Device as a CD-player. "

MM.

There is a tv - and there is a BV.

Ok, but when you connect an other audiomaster, you have a cd player ...

Nico
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Nor if you have e.g. a BeoMaster 4500 with a Playmaker on the A.Tape-port - or a or a BeoLink Converter with a Playmaker on the A.Aux-port.

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Razlaw replied on Thu, Dec 12 2013 12:01 AM
Millemissen:

Exactly that is THE good news!

Settings depends on your setup.

The important thing is that the BS/BM5 does not have to be the 'AudioMaster' any more.

MM

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I have a Beosound 3000 and 5 in same room as a BV 10. Connected by Masterlink. Audio master off on 5. Have tried all options on 3000. It still does not work. Any suggestions?

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Maybe you have an early BS3000 without the N.Music SW/Chip?  

Ah, you know... A little B&O here, a little there 

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Razlaw replied on Thu, Dec 12 2013 4:37 AM
With 3000 connected, N Music works, Spotify does not. If I disconnect the 3000 and make the 5 Audio Master, all works.

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Have you set the BS/BM5 to 'not audiomaster'?

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Solex replied on Thu, Dec 12 2013 8:32 AM

On 11-12-2013 Spotify is free of charge for mobile devices. What about Spotify on Beosound 5. Do I still need the premium account or can I use the (new) free account?

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I did a quick test this morning and it seems to work fine

Setup : bv9 bs9000 bm5/bs5. All in same room, speakers connected to bv9

Bs9000 is audiomaster bm5 no audiomaster

I had to use a beo 4 to select between different sources, but it works as decribed in the manual

I will have to reprogram the beo 6 a bit, but that is not to hard to do ...

Happy it works finnally... Why did this take so long for B&O to make this possible ...

I always tought they had to make a new eprom for the bs9000, but is seems it can work just with a software update for the bm5

Anyway... I'm happy :-))

Nico

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Razlaw replied on Thu, Dec 12 2013 2:07 PM
Millemissen:

Have you set the BS/BM5 to 'not audiomaster'?

MM

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Yes

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Razlaw replied on Thu, Dec 12 2013 2:08 PM
nico:

I did a quick test this morning and it seems to work fine

Setup : bv9 bs9000 bm5/bs5. All in same room, speakers connected to bv9

Bs9000 is audiomaster bm5 no audiomaster

I had to use a beo 4 to select between different sources, but it works as decribed in the manual

I will have to reprogram the beo 6 a bit, but that is not to hard to do ...

Happy it works finnally... Why did this take so long for B&O to make this possible ...

I always tought they had to make a new eprom for the bs9000, but is seems it can work just with a software update for the bm5

Anyway... I'm happy :-))

Nico

Which option setting do you have 9000 in?

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Razlaw:

Which option setting do you have 9000 in?

Option 0

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Razlaw replied on Thu, Dec 12 2013 2:52 PM

Thanks!

I have the 5 set to Audio Master No.......3000 set to option 0

This is what happens:

on Beo 4 press: CD       CD in 3000 plays as it should

then select N. Radio      CD stops, Beosound 3000 lights turn off. N. Radio appears briefly on 5 then goes dark, no sound, but speakers and TV still have green light on.

select N. Music                3000 briefly lights up     nothing else happens

turn everything off and then select 

N. Music                          N Music plays as it should, 3000 is lit up and says N. Music in display.

select N. Radio              3000 turns off, N. Radio briefly displays on 5, then goes dark, speakers and TV still have green lights on.

turn everything off

Select N. Music with Beo 4 and press 1 as described in manual, nothing happens.

 

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Razlaw replied on Thu, Dec 12 2013 3:34 PM

Couple other things.....I have the 3000 and 5 in a room with a BV 10. BV7-55 in other room. I had both TVs set to option 2 so that the timer function in the 7 would also turn the 10 on as if the 10 is in option 6, the timer from the 7 activates audio sources only, not video on the 10. I changed the 10 to option 6.

Now everything seems to work.   I can select N. Music, CD, N. Radio or Spotify and switch between them.

However, I can not select playlists in Spotify. How is that done? It worked fine before without the 3000 connected.

Also, when I turn the system off, everything turns off except the screen on the 5. I have to press the off button (red dot on Beo 4) a second time to get the screen to turn off.

I think I will just have to leave the 3000 disconnected.

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kallasr replied on Thu, Dec 12 2013 9:01 PM
no help, really, but....

We changed to Beolink Active with a Sonos Player.

Beolink Active attached to Beomaster 7000 (in home office), so could play CDs if you wanted to, but as a Spotify user we don't even listen to our digitised music anymore....

Ralf

Beosound 5 is nice, well built, but for us ipad control is a completely different league with sonos...

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beolion replied on Thu, Dec 12 2013 10:43 PM
An update that is not so important for me as my BS5 is AM. But it tells that they still develop on the product.

My last wish is an app to control BS5 without MLGW and Spotify Connect and maybe Airplay enabled. Then the product would be perfect for me.
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Beobuddy replied on Fri, Dec 13 2013 7:48 PM

I think it's a bit of a shame that all software releases are only BM/BS5 related.

I only have a BM5. Each time the menu tells you there's been an update, I quickly read the info about the newest release, but none of all the updates have improved my BM5. No A.Aux, no CD playing or ripping, No flac, no musicserver, no Spotify, none of that

A Spotify update would be great. Easy to program an extended  "startmenu" with Spotify beneath the NRadio function with synchronized playlists.

Even a decent search option for albums should have been there already. Like with artists you can search by the first letter (pressing the left button several times).

I like surfing through my albums on my BV9 with the Beo4 remote, making playlists. So I do not  necessarily need all the extra features, but getting none so far is the opposite.

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