Sign in   |  Join   |  Help
Untitled Page

ARCHIVED FORUM -- March 2012 to February 2022
READ ONLY FORUM

This is the second Archived Forum which was active between 1st March 2012 and 23rd February 2022

 

BV 10 and masterlink problem

rated by 0 users
This post has 11 Replies | 2 Followers

Raeuber
Top 50 Contributor
Germany
Posts 2,542
OFFLINE
Bronze Member
Raeuber Posted: Thu, Apr 26 2012 1:13 PM

Hello,

situation:

BV 10-40 (software actual build 224) in link room

BV 7-40 3D and BS 9000 in main room

 

Problem with BV 10-40 in link room:

1. Switch on RADIO (BS 9000)

2. Change to TV (BV 7-40) with LINK TV

3. Result: BS 9000 does not go in standby

4. Press STANDBY in link room

5. BV 7-40 goes to standby, but BS 9000 is still ON.

OR:

1. Switch on TV (BV 7-40) with LINK TV

2. Change to RADIO (BS 9000)

3. Result: BV 7-40 does not go in standby

4. Press STANDBY in link room

5. BS 9000 goes to standby, but BV 7-40 is still ON

 

This problem appeared since one of the latest software updates of BV 10-40. My BV 10-40 has been updated for several times. After every update one problem was solved, but another appeared. It´s a real horror!

Any ideas?

Regards

Räuber

 

marcus_m
Top 150 Contributor
Posts 517
OFFLINE
Bronze Member
marcus_m replied on Thu, Apr 26 2012 7:16 PM

Had a similar phenomenon in the past....

After connecting the white/blue wire with the pink one at every ML device, all worked like it should.

Cheers, Marcus

elephant
Top 10 Contributor
AU
Posts 8,219
OFFLINE
Founder
elephant replied on Thu, Apr 26 2012 10:22 PM

marcus_m:

Had a similar phenomenon in the past....

After connecting the white/blue wire with the pink one at every ML device, all worked like it should.

Cheers, Marcus

Marcus, what in the diagnosis lead you to that solution and why does it work ?

(just out of interest!)

BeoNut since '75

Raeuber
Top 50 Contributor
Germany
Posts 2,542
OFFLINE
Bronze Member
Raeuber replied on Thu, Apr 26 2012 10:33 PM
The white/blue wires of all ML devices are connected in a junction box, also the pink wires. Why should I connect all white/blue wires with all pink wires??

/Räuber
Vienna
Top 100 Contributor
make an educated guess
Posts 1,090
OFFLINE
Bronze Member
Vienna replied on Thu, Apr 26 2012 11:54 PM

Raeuber:
The white/blue wires of all ML devices are connected in a junction box,  also the pink wires.
Why should I connect all white/blue wires with all pink wires?? /Räuber

I don't  know if this resolves YOUR issue - but lacking connetion between blue/white and pink can always lead to
strange results/errors in any ML setup!

If you are using ORIGINAL B&O junction boxes, the necessary connection between pin 3 (ML-Sense) and pin 12 Vml is
provided internally by the jubction box itself.

If you are using other ways to connect the ML-cables (eg. teminal strips or soldering) it is MANDATORY to connect
pin  3 (blue-white) and pin 12 (pink) 

marcus_m
Top 150 Contributor
Posts 517
OFFLINE
Bronze Member
marcus_m replied on Fri, Apr 27 2012 6:43 AM

elephant:

Marcus, what in the diagnosis lead you to that solution and why does it work ?

(just out of interest!)

My ML cabling in the house is done with CAT7 cable, so the blue/white wire is missing in general. I also did all the adaptor cables from RJ45 to ML myself and the first I made did not have the connection between blue/white and pink. A BV1L was connected to the ML network as slave with one of the cables where the connection was missing - everything did work as it should.

One day I replaced the BV1L with an BC1 and I had the problem that one of the master sources did not correctly power off. After some hours of troubleshooting I changed the ML adaptor cable and it did work!

So to my understanding there are devices that require the connection to work while other do not need this connection.

Raeuber
Top 50 Contributor
Germany
Posts 2,542
OFFLINE
Bronze Member
Raeuber replied on Fri, Apr 27 2012 10:04 AM

Vienna:

Raeuber:
The white/blue wires of all ML devices are connected in a junction box,  also the pink wires.
Why should I connect all white/blue wires with all pink wires?? /Räuber

I don't  know if this resolves YOUR issue - but lacking connetion between blue/white and pink can always lead to
strange results/errors in any ML setup!

If you are using ORIGINAL B&O junction boxes, the necessary connection between pin 3 (ML-Sense) and pin 12 Vml is
provided internally by the jubction box itself.

If you are using other ways to connect the ML-cables (eg. teminal strips or soldering) it is MANDATORY to connect
pin  3 (blue-white) and pin 12 (pink) 

 

I am using the B&O junction box and everything works fine, only the described problem with my BV 10-40 in link room.

But I don´t know the reason because my setup was updated several times last year:

- Beolink passive; I connected the ML wire with the junction box (not much fun because now there are four ML wires connected in the box!)

- New BV 7-40 3D instead of my old Avant in main room

- Replacing the system module (Mk 2 instead Mk 1 before) in BV 10-40

- several software updates of BV 10-40 and BV 7-40 3D

In the past I only used the ML for listening music in link room (radio and CD from BS 9000 in main room). Since I have the BV 7-40 3D with a Technisat ISIO in main room, I also watch harddisc-recordings from ISIO on BV 10-40 in link room.

So I assume the new system module in BV 10-40 is the reason for the problem, but probably the wires in the junction box  are the reason. I think first I will try it with my old MX 4002 instead of BV 10-40 and see what happens.

Regards

Räuber

Raeuber
Top 50 Contributor
Germany
Posts 2,542
OFFLINE
Bronze Member
Raeuber replied on Fri, Apr 27 2012 12:26 PM

Hello guys!

I have now changed in link room my BV 10-40 with my old MX 4002:

ALL WORKS FINE NOW!

So the problem is caused by the BV 10-40 with the new system module (Mk 2). BV 10-40 has the actual software build 224 installed.

I think I will change my stuff with the old one: Avant in main room and MX 4002 in link room. All worked fine from the beginning in 1998. Since I have BV 10-40 and BV 7-40 3D, my dealer has to visit me one time per month to install software updates.

IT´S A REAL SHAME FOR B&O!

Regards

Räuber 

Raeuber
Top 50 Contributor
Germany
Posts 2,542
OFFLINE
Bronze Member
Raeuber replied on Fri, Apr 27 2012 11:25 PM

The system module of my BV 10-40 has the software version 50.06a.

Does anybody know if there is an update available to solve the problem?

/Räuber

BBHE
Not Ranked
Posts 1
OFFLINE
Bronze Member
BBHE replied on Sat, Apr 28 2012 12:30 AM

Hi,

Is the "Power Save" disabled on your BV10?

I have used a BV10 with system module MKII for a long time without any problems

Raeuber
Top 50 Contributor
Germany
Posts 2,542
OFFLINE
Bronze Member
Raeuber replied on Sat, Apr 28 2012 8:33 AM
What's "Power Save" on BV 10?

At the end of last year the system module (Mk 1) was replaced by Mk 2, because it didn't work anymore. I assume the problem was caused by this replacement.

My BV 10-40 is a Mk 1. Probably it doesn't fit with a system module Mk 2. But this should have known the dealer.

It's really frustrating, because with my 14 years old MX 4002 everything works fine!

Regards

Räuber
Raeuber
Top 50 Contributor
Germany
Posts 2,542
OFFLINE
Bronze Member
Raeuber replied on Fri, Sep 7 2012 12:08 PM

Hi,

meanwhile my dealer had replaced the system module again and had updated my BV 10-40 with software build 227. He had also connected the white/blue wire with the pink one in the masterlink system  (although this is not necessary because I use junction boxes). All without success, the problem is still there. Neither my dealer nor Beocare are able to solve the problem, Beocare didn´t hear of this problem.

BTW: If I make BV 10-40 to mainroom TV (V.OPT = 2) and my BV 7-40 to linkroom TV (V.OPT = 6), everything works fine. So it´s obvious that the BV 10-40 causes the problem!

It´s a shame for B&O that the BV 10 doesn´t work fine as a linkroom TV (V.OPT =6), although BV 10 is now for several years available!

Regards

Räuber

Page 1 of 1 (12 items) | RSS