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You have talked about the new TV coming up ... but I know will come the new Beolab 9.
More expensive, larger but similar in form.
Price +10/15 %
30 days.
Larger???
MM
There is a tv - and there is a BV
Millemissen: Larger???
Yes, think the BL14 sub, but larger, with an alt :)
Looks like we're going to have an interesting May. New speaker, new TV. Spoke with my dealer today and he says the picture from the new TV is simply outstanding.
moxxey: Yes, think the BL14 sub, but larger, with an alt :)
Why 'think the BL14' - it is kind of the same shame now too.
Beovision 12 65, Beovision 11 55 Mk II, Beoplay V1 40, Beosound 5 Encore, Beolab 9,beolab 18, Beolab 19, Beoplay A8, Beoplay A9
Color me intrigued. I dunno how they can improve them sound-wise, but the looks could do with a makeover.
The ALT doesn't look too hot right now. Could reshape it and use the same kind of metal as on the Beolab 18.
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Hereford: Color me intrigued. I dunno how they can improve them sound-wise, but the looks could do with a makeover. The ALT doesn't look too hot right now. Could reshape it and use the same kind of metal as on the Beolab 18.
Probably some 'cosmetic corrections', a new amplifier module and a built- in IWS module.
I do not know the details. It could also be wireless.
I confirm BeoLab 9 is no longer for sale list.
Name for new 9... Beolab 20. Price list 10,000 euro. Wireless.
Presentation 8/5
SlyParma: I confirm BeoLab 9 is no longer for sale list. Name for new 9... Beolab 20. Price list 10,000 euro. Wireless. Presentation 8/5
Thank you for sharing
Thanks, Sly.
I'm really curious about this.
The Beolab 9 is somewhat of a fan favourite amongst B&O fans, but it is not as well known outside B&O circles. If they could manage to give it a more iconic design, something approaching the Beolab 5, Beolab 8000 or Beolab 18, they could have a really strong product on their hand.
I'm not expecting or saying they should do a radical redesign, it is just a few small things that could really improve the look.
I like it a lot. Black is bad. red or white instead very attractive.
The output of the new BL20 lower the price of 9. Even now, used, is located on the 3500/4000 Euros. Great price for a speaker of the highest quality.
Making comparisons with friends I realized that if you want a speaker with very good and clean bass and not annoying, the speaker must be great. There is no comparison between the BeoLab 9 and 8000, the bl3, and bl18.
-multimedia Robert-: Name for new 9... Beolab 20. Price list 10,000 euro. Wireless.
Quite a chunk more than the existing BL9 then. Will be interesting to see what it's like and how it performs. The release date is the same day as the new TV, too.
Beosound Stage, Beovision 8-40, Beolit 20, Beosound Explore.
Chris Townsend:May the 8th? Have I told you how happy I am with the 7-55 by the way ;-/
Every single day!
I'm not getting the new TV, so it's of no concern anyhow. It's going to be at least £10K as it sits between the BV11-55 (£9K) and the old BV12-65 (£13K). I can get a superb Panerai or IWC for that and keep the BV11-46 ;)
Is the new TV the one with the rotating speaker or another model ?
Raeuber:7.000
That'll be for the anti-glare screen
Beoworld app with direct photo upload and emoticons.
wtlc2zpx:That'll be for the anti-glare screen
Hmm 7,000 EUR am I dreaming?? Maybe after hearing that price but in all B and O prices don't think it will happen If they did they will sell loads and i'd be one in the queue!
Bv7Mk3:Hmm 7,000 EUR am I dreaming?? Maybe after hearing that price but in all B and O prices don't think it will happen If they did they will sell loads and i'd be one in the queue!
Selling an Avant NG (even at that price) and two sets of BeoLab 20 will be a good deal for B&O in the end.
Millemissen...Yes I agree if they do....
Let's hope there's new BL5's in the pipeline then.
Too long to list....
Raeuber: wtlc2zpx: That'll be for the anti-glare screen Or the dealer took this price from a list of the original old Avant!
wtlc2zpx: That'll be for the anti-glare screen
Or the dealer took this price from a list of the original old Avant!
Well, after the Brussels trip this week, the dealers were told "between BV11-55 and the BV12-65" price-wise, for the new 55" TV. That doesn't bring it in at EUR 7000!
Also, I'm not sure B&O could bring out a brand new TV with 4K, far cheaper than the existing BV11-55, in the same size screen, with a mechanical speaker mechanism. You do know how much B&O charge for their motorised stands? :)
Yes I was told £6,000 for new Beovision Avant, probably £7,500 with special motorised stand in smallest 55" version.
Hi Räuber,
why - on earth - do you think that they have had the BV11 'trade in offer' going on for a while?
In reallity it was already cheaper as listed.
It's not easy to start selling the BV's at a lower price.
There is always somebody, that reacts offended - (that he has paid 'too much' for his BV bought a year ago).
Raeuber:But who on earth would buy a BV 11 anymore??
Precisely!
Can you imagine this sales patter "We have this brand new £6K, 55" 4K TV with motorised loudspeaker...or you can buy this old £9K BV11 55" instead".
If B&O releases a £6K 55" TV, then this is effectively the ONLY TV in their showroom. No-one is going to buy a BV11-46 or 55 as they are way more expensive, for older technology.
As I said earlier, my dealer insists it's going to sit above the BV11, price-wise, which makes more sense! Newer technology, superb design, 4K. I'd love it if it was released at £6,000 though. I'd upgrade immediately. I just don't see it being realistic.
One thing is true though, it's a month until launch and almost no-one knows definitive information or even the design. Amazing. No leaks at all, even though dealers on this board have seen the TV in person :)
Raeuber:Dealer told me today: New TV is called 'Avant', that's for sure. 4K, no internal harddrive but any harddrive can be connected to USB socket, rotating speakers, 55 inches. And it would cost only 7.000 EUR (can't believe it!). Regards Räuber
Regards
Räuber
Was "today" April 1st?
Could this "new avant" simply be a re-branded Samsung to get the turn over flowing???
So if BL20 will cost 10k then the questions are:- how will they compare to cheaper pre-owned BL5?- if one gets a good deal for ex-demo BL9, is it still worth it?
Thanks, js
js: - if one gets a good deal for ex-demo BL9, is it still worth it?
- if one gets a good deal for ex-demo BL9, is it still worth it?
Very odd question. The BL9 doesn't become 'not worth it' just because a new speaker is released. The BL9 remains an outstanding speaker, particularly if you get a good deal. There's a huge difference between the price of a discounted BL9 and the forthcoming BL20.
BL5s are superb, if you have the space they require. I didn't, so ended up getting rid of them (and the BL9s, I should add).
You don't get the wireless support, but you can add that later if required.