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£8000 for a B&O or OLED T.v?

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seethroughyou Posted: Sat, Jun 7 2014 11:08 AM
After having read the following article and doing some more research it got me thinking...

http://www.whathifi.com/news/oled-tv-reviews-news-and-everything-you-need-to-know

The picture from OLED seem to be a massive step up with virtually zero motion artifacts due to the OLED crystals faster response time and total blacks but for me it's also about the whole experience: sound, simple clear menus, absence of cheap black plastic in favour of the glass and aluminium, moving stand, electronic curtain and build quality giving a B&O a 15year plus lifespan.

What do other members think? Would you rather get an Avant or BV11 or take an LG OLED?

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vikinger replied on Sat, Jun 7 2014 11:27 AM

Screen burn and declining blue pixel quality would rule it out for me for the present.

Also, I've read that the latest fashion for curved/ concave screens introduces all sorts of reflection problems worse than those experienced with flat screens or the old convex CRT tubes.

BV11 as art on the wall on a motorised hinge is exactly what suits my current requirements.

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Depends on your budget I suppose.  Not all of us can afford $12,000 AUD and $17-18,000 AUD for an Avant or BV11 respectively.  It is serious money. And considering what if you have 3 TV's in your house lol.

Have you seen how sexy that LG OLED is.  A member posted a picture of his LG OLED with his BL9's - it does look beautiful, even if it's design isn't as distinctive as B&O, B&O customers are looking for that something extra when it comes to Beovisions.  

A whole experience is very important and making everything work together and being easy to use is better than looks. 

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Or get nearly the best of both worlds with a 7-55 mk2. They can now be had for well under the price of an Avant and are realistically , the only lcd TV to match plasma blacks etc. The 11 doesn't come close to a 7-55 for sound and to an extent picture.

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Hi Chris, does the 7-55 have the same smart TV features? like catch up channels etc?

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markiedee replied on Sat, Jun 7 2014 11:57 AM

I hate the look of the lg oled tv with its platic bottom and cheap carbon printed back, Harrods had a better one before they launched this version. 

Cant remember the code number for it but it was silver wasn't curved with a speaker integrated in the stand and it looked very sleek for an lg. it was a 55" retailing at £10000 this one however doesn't grab me.

although the blacks look very good on the lg it's the curve and the cheap design that kills it for me.

The bv11 or avant however really are nice and from the demos I've seen of the avant i very much prefer it  over the lg all day anytime of the week.

However what one person likes another won't so it really is subjective and also dependant on what you prefer.

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olvisab replied on Sat, Jun 7 2014 12:29 PM
Oled is too expensiv to produce and I don't think every manufacturers will take the risk.

It use organic material and lifespan is really short.

At this level of price and reliability it is really silly to buy one.

Panasonic is the only one who can really provide a tv better than a plasma due to their experience in this field.

I learned this morning that if I want to use my rear speakers as stereo speaker combined to my sub in front , I can do it with the avant.

That's this kind of details that sometimes could be essential before taking a decision.

I just need to know now if I can disable the automatic center speaker in order to use a bl7.2 instead and to make this ugly grill disappear.

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Aussie Michael:

Hi Chris, does the 7-55 have the same smart TV features? like catch up channels etc?

Nope, and yes.

I use Sky for catch up and Apple Tv for everything else. When i had an 11, i used the smart features for a total of 10 minutes, which i then decided were completely pointless. Each to their own i guess.

 

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olvisab:

Oled is too expensiv to produce and I don't think every manufacturers will take the risk.

I learned this morning that if I want to use my rear speakers as stereo speaker combined to my sub in front , I can do it with the avant.

That's this kind of details that sometimes could be essential before taking a decision

I just need to know now if I can disable the automatic center speaker in order to use a bl7.2 instead and to make this ugly grill disappear.

From what I was reading in Nikei that OLED production is slowing because of the cost and technical implications.

I love that you can assign speakers.  This is a great feature, say if you're sitting on the couch and you're an early riser and your partner is not and your 2 rear speakers are more discrete and you want to listen to them quietly you can assign them as stereo.  

Have you seen the automatic speaker in the "flesh" or are you just making observations from promo shots? (just out of interest)

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olvisab replied on Sun, Jun 8 2014 12:08 AM
Hi michael,

I have seen the center speaker in reality. I just don't like it. I don't understand why they decide to make it so visible.

I asked my dealer if b&o plans to offer other colors. I told him that it is the first time I see b&o not offering any customs colors like for any other b&o tv.

Whatever the color of the grill, I don't think I will have the use of it. I do prefer the bl7.2 in my 5.1 setup.

The reason why I want to use the rear speakers is that my rear speakers are bl1 and I like them for radio or stereo listening. According to the fact that my sub is at the opposite side, so I have to create a combination with front and rear speakers for a stereo listening.

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Paul W replied on Sun, Jun 8 2014 12:29 AM

Brand new and very interesting test of plasma, OLED and 4K LCD...

http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/result-201406013793.htm

 

Also, Panasonic AND SONY are reported to be in talks with LG to use LG OLED screens for their future OLED TVs!

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Thanks for the link Paul, a good read indeed

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olvisab replied on Sun, Jun 8 2014 11:07 AM
Panasonic in the lead I am not surprised at all and we haven't seen the next ax900 full led this next fall.

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