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H6 Limited Edition 2014

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BeoGreg Posted: Wed, Jul 9 2014 4:15 PM
Got these (H6 limited edition 2014) yesterday for a price I couldn't refuse from my dealer.

The color in real life is petrol blue like the BV11 freat.

Again, very sad to say that I don't like the product.

When I bought Form2 a few years back I recon it was the worst B&O I ever bought (very cheap plastic, bad sound). Well that was before the H6 and they are supposed to play in another league.

I was expecting huge clear sound, I get a laughable sound. Nothing, no bass, no clear voices. It´s like they have a filter.

My son's JVC at 70 € are way better.

I have to switch volume up to neer the max compared to Form2 or A8.

They even get me a headache with no sound (it´s like putting your hands firmly on your ears) and my ears get too warm with the leather ! Must be worn in winter.

Sincerely I find Form2 better and they are not a reference for my taste !

I made the mistake not to test them before buying.

Surely at last they are whell made.

Am I the only one with this ? Can they improve with time ?

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I like mine  - the natural leather ones - no issues with them.

They have the 'sound' I have been looking for - after having tried some of the boomy current headphones on the market.

You must drive them with a reasonable source - I use a small Headphone amp.

And ---- I guess it depends on which sound you expect.

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Mark replied on Wed, Jul 9 2014 5:26 PM

I have black pair and have no issue with sound quality, personally I feel the sound is better than my Zik's or Sennheiser's.  As mentioned in other threads I feel they could have been better, i.e. sound cancelling, wireless etc. or if not wireless an extension lead and yes a tad more bass.

MM is right I am sure the H6's performance varies between genre.

 

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Peter replied on Wed, Jul 9 2014 6:19 PM

I have tried H6 headphones and liked the sound. I compared them to my Sennheiser HD600s - they were not quite as good but I was impressed enough to buy some for my godson. They do not have the booming bass encountered on many modern headphones but that is inaccurate in my view and masks the music. However headphones like speakers are very personal choices and you should always listen first.

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BeoGreg replied on Wed, Jul 9 2014 6:20 PM
I use them with spotify on iphone. Same source than other headphones in fact. They will replace Form2's for my kids electrical piano.

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I often have to have mine of 100% too with a Mini iPad as the source. More bass please chef is the standard criticism all my friends make, including myself. Personally i'm about as interested in the opinions of Audiophiles regarding more bass, as i am in the chefs opinion in a restaurant regarding seasoning or how my steak should be cooked. 

Bose and Beats have serviced that desire to differing extents, and prospered accordingly.

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Jeff replied on Wed, Jul 9 2014 6:43 PM

Peter:

I have tried H6 headphones and liked the sound. I compared them to my Sennheiser HD600s - they were not quite as good but I was impressed enough to buy some for my godson. They do not have the booming bass encountered on many modern headphones but that is inaccurate in my view and masks the music. However headphones like speakers are very personal choices and you should always listen first.

I agree with you about the sound, and the fact that it's personal preference. I prefer no booming bass but a more natural presentation, and the H6 is great for that. Also, it's the most comfortable headphone I've ever worn, but they are really my wife's. I get by, as I'm not as much a headphone user, with a pair of Form 2s.

We have H6, Form 2, and A8 B&O headphones, quite the collection. The A8s tend to get used on trips, the Form 2s tend to stay in my den/workroom, and the H6 wanders around to wherever my wife is listening.

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Mark replied on Wed, Jul 9 2014 7:52 PM

for mobile devices and tablets etc I use an amp as feel there is not enough built in oomph. H6's also sound good plugged into my guitar amp for those wife friendly evenings .....

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Historically, if my memory serves me correctly, B&O headphones had dramatically different impedances from most other headphones and were designed specifically for use with B&O equipment. I assume that current designs are more focussed on use with MP3 players by other manufacturers, but I really have no idea on this point. H6 headphones have an apparent impedance of around 30 ohms. Does that make them ideal for iPhone use etc, Beovision use, or older Beomaster use?

Geoff Martin's website has a nice summary of several reviews.

http://www.tonmeister.ca/wordpress/2013/08/25/bang-olufsen-h6-headphone-review/

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BeoGreg replied on Wed, Jul 9 2014 8:23 PM
Thanks for the review Vikinger.

I'm starting to get used to the H6, it´s much better tonight than last night.

I noticed tonight that the ear pads where not screwed correctly (they are screwed, you can turn them to putt them off) adding a 2/3 mm distance from their correct place.

Maybe that was the "problem" ?

Tomorrow with a little run in, I will say that they are great I two hate boomy headphones !
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Thanks for that link - I must have overlooked it.

Seems that a lot of people agree that this is a good headphone.

One thing I enjoy very much is the lightness of the headphone - it is much nicer to wear than I had expected.

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Mark replied on Wed, Jul 9 2014 9:07 PM
this is interesting http://www.engadget.com/2006/06/07/pepsi-posters-let-you-plug-in-your-headphones/

if B&O & PEPSI went a little more left field on the marketing side such a collaboration could have paid dividends.

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mbee replied on Thu, Jul 10 2014 7:34 PM

The lack of bass on the H6 is due to the French (and I think European) amp limitation of the iPhone. Try it on a BeoSound or a US iPhone and it will sound more plain.

Strange for a European firm, but true. 

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Dave replied on Fri, Jul 11 2014 10:13 AM

I was virtually in disbelief when i saw they had collaborated with Pepsi, yuck! Really doesn't do anything for me, was it a mistake? What were they aiming for? Seems a little desperate...

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BeoGreg replied on Fri, Jul 11 2014 12:40 PM
Frankly about the Pepsi collaboration I really don't see what to blame.

I just saw a pair of B&O blue headphones while entering the shop and I liked them.

It could have been any other collaboration I don't care.

The color appart they are the same headphones and I really like B&O blue (have/had blue : beocom 2400, beocom 6000, beovision MX, beocord VX, beolab 2500, beovision Avant, beovision 10, beovision 11 and H6).
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w5bno123 replied on Fri, Jul 11 2014 3:08 PM
Millemissen:

I like mine - the natural leather ones - no issues with them.

They have the 'sound' I have been looking for - after having tried some of the boomy current headphones on the market.

You must drive them with a reasonable source - I use a small Headphone amp.

And ---- I guess it depends on which sound you expect.

MM

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Hi MM

Out of interest what headphone amp do you use and how portable is it? I love the H6 but I want to blow up my eardrums as my iPhone is my main source and very underpowered. Big Smile

I really like the Blue LE Pepsi and can see beyond the collaboration with Pepsi, this doesn't bother me or effect my purchasing decisionWink

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BeoGreg replied on Fri, Jul 11 2014 4:15 PM
@mbee

Indeed, with that king of portable device the H6 plays in an other league.

Unfortunately I don't find spotify and net radio on the BS3...

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VANTAGE replied on Fri, Jul 11 2014 6:37 PM

You will find a review here (just came out). It's in French though: http://www.qobuz.com/fr-fr/info/Hi-Fi/Bancs-d-essai/Casque-Bang-Olufsen-H6-doux-comme174208?utm_medium=e-mail&utm_source=newsletter_qobuz_hifi_guide_163

In a nutshell: very positive, clearly less bass than on some of the popular brands' products (Dr Beats and the like), but a winner.

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w5bno123:

Hi MM

Out of interest what headphone amp do you use and how portable is it? I love the H6 but I want to blow up my eardrums as my iPhone is my main source and very underpowered. Big Smile

Hi Stuart,

it is nothing special - it is a Pro-Ject Headbox, and certainly not portable.

And it wasn't meant to be either, as I mostly use my H6 at home.

I have had that amp for a while to drive my Grado 80i's in a small setup with a CDX - when I was in CD listening mood 💿

Right now I use it for creating a headphone connection on my V1-32 - feeding it with a line-out signal from one of the PL's.

This combo is very much used for music listening. I certainly have enough (more than enough) power that way.

 

Yesterday I used the H6 with my iPod Touch (my first iDevice Smile) connected to the headphone-out.

I had the volumen at about 80% of max - sounded pretty well to me. But I am not into 'eardrum blowing', you must know.

 

Originally it was not my intention to take the H6 with me, but after wearing them (they are lighter and more comfortable than I though) that might change.

If I start looking for a portable amp, I don't know yet. 

Might not be worth it - and I'd rather avoid yet another device to carry around.

MM

 

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vikinger replied on Fri, Jul 11 2014 11:06 PM

VANTAGE:

You will find a review here (just came out). It's in French though: http://www.qobuz.com/fr-fr/info/Hi-Fi/Bancs-d-essai/Casque-Bang-Olufsen-H6-doux-comme174208?utm_medium=e-mail&utm_source=newsletter_qobuz_hifi_guide_163

In a nutshell: very positive, clearly less bass than on some of the popular brands' products (Dr Beats and the like), but a winner.

Vantage

A great review via google translate. (But google translate hasn't quite mastered the french-english nuances as it has other language translations. You can get the gist of the review but with some wonderfully poetic phrases!)

Graham

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vikinger replied on Fri, Jul 11 2014 11:13 PM

Chris Townsend:

I often have to have mine of 100% too with a Mini iPad as the source. More bass please chef is the standard criticism all my friends make, including myself. Personally i'm about as interested in the opinions of Audiophiles regarding more bass, as i am in the chefs opinion in a restaurant regarding seasoning or how my steak should be cooked. 

Bose and Beats have serviced that desire to differing extents, and prospered accordingly.

A neutral headphone allows you to listen to high quality streaming as the original recording was intended. Alternatively you can apply as much bass or treble distortion as you like via a Beomaster or similar with tone controls. A boomy headphone is like having your steak with triple pepper sauce all the time: you can't taste the steak but you sure know what the sauce is like!

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Mark replied on Sat, Jul 12 2014 8:11 AM
Millemissen:

Might not be worth it - and I'd rather avoid yet another device to carry around.

MM

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I use a FiiO Mont Blanc E12 amp, it has the same footprint as an iPhone and rides piggyback using 2x industrial type rubber bands. The sound improvement is good when mated to my iPad/iPhone/iPod but MM is right it's another device that has to be carried around and kept charged so you have to weight up its practicality with sound quality and as the H6's are not noise cancelling I'm not sure about their practicality when used in an outside environment.

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vikinger:

A neutral headphone allows you to listen to high quality streaming as the original recording was intended. Alternatively you can apply as much bass or treble distortion as you like via a Beomaster or similar with tone controls. A boomy headphone is like having your steak with triple pepper sauce all the time: you can't taste the steak but you sure know what the sauce is like!

Graham

Nobody including myself ever said "boomy"

Is your television calibrated to THX standards like the movie makers intended(an option on the Beovision 11 I may add), or do you use your own settings? Adaptive!

If not, why does this "as the artist intended" only ever apply to audio?

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vikinger replied on Sat, Jul 12 2014 10:21 AM

Chris Townsend:
vikinger:

A neutral headphone allows you to listen to high quality streaming as the original recording was intended. Alternatively you can apply as much bass or treble distortion as you like via a Beomaster or similar with tone controls. A boomy headphone is like having your steak with triple pepper sauce all the time: you can't taste the steak but you sure know what the sauce is like!

Graham

Nobody including myself ever said "boomy"

Is your television calibrated to THX standards like the movie makers intended(an option on the Beovision 11 I may add), or do you use your own settings? Adaptive!

If not, why does this "as the artist intended" only ever apply to audio?

Well I guess I meant extra bass bias when I said boomy, and I was just responding to the chef/food analogy. Would you buy a television with some odd colour bias already built-in that you could not remove through recalibration? Would you want to listen to classical music with a headphone with extra bass that you couldn't adjust?

To continue with the food analogy, what's wrong with applying your own condiments? The exception that proves the rule; try ostrich with and without triple pepper sauce. In that particular case the chef applied sauce is essential because there's no flavour whatsoever in the meat!

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vikinger replied on Mon, Jul 14 2014 6:31 PM

As I've just posted in the 'We the Best' thread I've taken delivery of these same blue H6's and they are really superb. Comfortable. Full bass. More bass if you apply it through an amp with tone controls. The Olive One supplies more than enough output to drive these headphones. As does an iPad.

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BeoGreg replied on Fri, Jul 18 2014 10:14 PM
I got used to them Vikinger and I like them now.

I really think they needed (and my years) some kind of brake in.

I wasn't used to the "closed" (H6) vs open (A8 and Form 2) technology.

One concern left, the ear buds get off very easily when I touch the headphones. I will ask my dealer if I can ad some kind of glue so that they won't move untill I really whant to.
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Puncher replied on Fri, Jul 18 2014 11:10 PM

vikinger:
I've taken delivery of these same blue H6's and they are really superb. Comfortable. Full bass.

I doubt they're for me, I want brash, loud (in both senses of the word), boom & fizz, and primary colours so that people on the bus will notice how they look, hear how loud they spill and guess how expensive they were!

Although I do think that they're available with nonsensical large text on the headband is an absolute bonus!

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Jeff replied on Sun, Jul 20 2014 1:46 PM

I've been hoping they'd broaden the number of companies they do this with. I've never been a Pepsi guy, but now if they come up with a RC Cola and Moonpie edition, I'm there!

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vikinger replied on Sun, Jul 20 2014 7:13 PM

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vikinger:
I've taken delivery of these same blue H6's and they are really superb. Comfortable. Full bass.

I doubt they're for me, I want brash, loud (in both senses of the word), boom & fizz, and primary colours so that people on the bus will notice how they look, hear how loud they spill and guess how expensive they were!

Although I do think that they're available with nonsensical large text on the headband is an absolute bonus!

Just get yourself that discrete iPhone and earbuds set you've always craved Puncher.

Thankfully there's no text on the headband and the Pepsi logo is so small it might as well not be there. 

Back online, brand new at £179. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Bang-and-Olufsen-B-O-H6-Ltd-Edition-by-Ricarso-Akn-Headphones-329-RRP-NEW-/301234971787?pt=UK_AudioVideoElectronics_HomeAudioHiFi_HiFiSpeakers&hash=item462300e48b

(Thanks due to Chris Townsend for highlighting the original offer).

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vikinger replied on Sun, Jul 20 2014 7:22 PM

Jeff:

I've been hoping they'd broaden the number of companies they do this with. I've never been a Pepsi guy, but now if they come up with a RC Cola and Moonpie edition, I'm there!

Yes, but it also needs to be a limited edition linked to something irrelevant and short lived like the football World Cup so that the surplus get dumped at a silly price after the event.

As indicated in the reply to Puncher, the Pepsi logo is so small that it might as well not be there,..... but it is quite significant on the Play box exterior, which is where B&O have blundered.

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jeules0 replied on Sun, Jul 20 2014 11:06 PM

Just bought a pair of blue Pepsi H6 phones for £179 on eBay, and as others have noted the Pepsi logo is very discreet. In fact, to be honest I didn't even realise that was what it was!

I'm very pleased with them, especially at that price, which included postage. 

 

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Leslie replied on Mon, Jul 21 2014 5:07 AM

Congratulations! The price you paid for it justifies the quality/sound of this headphone. I paid 340 euro for it few months ago incl.10% discount. It's a bloody rip off, shame on you B&O!

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vikinger replied on Mon, Jul 21 2014 9:17 AM

Well, do they sound any different if bought at £179 rather than €329/340/399?

Would they be the best headphones ever made if sold at £1, and the worst if sold at £1000?

What is really disappointing is that B&O have followed the world wide trend of outsourcing production to China (or other low labour cost area) at presumably very low cost so as to maintain a good profit margin in Denmark. Basically, middle management, including the designers, have preserved their own jobs in the short term by putting the assembly workers out of business in Denmark. But in the longer term those design and middle management jobs are vulnerable too. 

Would people be willing to pay more if they knew something was completely designed and built in Denmark/Europe/ UK?

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Leslie replied on Mon, Jul 21 2014 9:41 AM

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Well, do they sound any different if bought at £179 rather than €329?

Would they be the best headphones ever made if sold at £1, and the worst if sold at £1000?

You mean €399. Sorry but my personal opinion is that I would have accepted quote "£1/£179" more for for this "headphone when paid €399/€340. Again, not worth it for that kind of money.Plastic with an aluminium bling bling surface.

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vikinger replied on Mon, Jul 21 2014 10:02 AM

I guess that the answer re quality is to always try things out yourself rather than rely on secondhand opinions, even on Beoworld, or, for that matter, a manufacturers reputation.

Even when quality is high, most things I buy seem to be stamped 'Designed in --------- , Made in China."

The crowd funded Olive One was widely advertised as being made in the US before it actually appeared with a 'Made in Taiwan, Designed in San Francisco' label. The only people who have gained from this short sighted manufacturing approach are banks and shareholders.

Anyway, price aside, I personally think that the H6 does a very adequate job with my particular audio set-ups.

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I personally don't have a problem with products made in China as long as they are made well, and the price reflects the lower cost of manufacture there. That being said, I still pay a lot for Apple products, and I don't think they're giving me a price break!

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BeoGreg replied on Wed, Jul 23 2014 10:55 AM
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One concern left, the ear buds get off very easily when I touch the headphones. I will ask my dealer if I can ad some kind of glue so that they won't move untill I really whant to.

The ear buds wheren't scrued hard enough there is a last "clic" that you must hear/feel.

Perfect now.

Once again I wasn't used to those headphones, now I like them after saying there where rubbish.

I haven't paid full price though...

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Mark replied on Wed, Jul 23 2014 10:38 PM
after this thread I've started to be more aware of people wearing over ear headphones and I'm surprised; and this is not a sexist comment, how many women wear this style of headphone.

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Jeff replied on Thu, Jul 24 2014 1:46 AM

Mark:
after this thread I've started to be more aware of people wearing over ear headphones and I'm surprised; and this is not a sexist comment, how many women wear this style of headphone.

Again, not trying to be sexist, but you'd think they wouldn't as it'd mess up their hair, which I know many women spend what we men think of as inordinate amounts of time on. A guy with shorter hair, no issue, but a longer or more styled "do" would seem to favor ear buds.

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