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SHAPE is a very beautiful speaker. The traditional surround speaker is too ugly. I want to use SHAPE as the surround speaker for 5.1 system
What should I do?
Is that possible?
thinks!
steven
Buy a complete Shape, including core and everything, and set it up.
Connect a RJ45 cable from the TV to the leftmost (master) amplifier in the setup.
Add the speakers in the TV's speaker group.
Use it. ;)
When using audio-sources from Core, the speaker will use the Band-on-the-wall algorithm. When using Powerlink it will automatically switch to stereo-filter, which is desired for use as surround speakers.
Hi Steven,
Welcome to Beoworld! Yes, this is possible. The simplest option is to buy an AV receiver with pre-out sockets (or a Beosystem processor) and split the Shape down into modules for each pair of audio channels.
Each stereo pair of channels (eg. front left and front right) should have one Shape amplifier and four Shape speaker tiles, then they can be configured to work as normal stereo speakers without Beosound Core (the "band on the wall" feature will be disabled).
Please let me know how many channels/Shape tiles you wish to use and which receiver or processor you have. I can then help you to get everything connected and working.
Kind regards, Steve.
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In the BeoHome in Struer they have a full multichannel Shape setup.
in the pic you only see the fronts, but there are also rears and surrounds and even heights (using the TrueImage processing of the BV Eclipse).
So yes, that is absolutely possible.
MM
There is a tv - and there is a BV
God that looks ugly as sin.
Millemissen: In the BeoHome in Struer they have a full multichannel Shape setup. in the pic you only see the fronts, but there are also rears and surrounds and even heights (using the TrueImage processing of the BV Eclipse). So yes, that is absolutely possible. MM
I believe it was a product placement tribute to "Zoolander"
哦! 亲爱的史蒂夫，非常感谢你的回答
我的目的不是使用BEOVISION，而是使用其他品牌的电视，例如SONY。LAB18用于主扬声器，SHAPE用于中置扬声器和环绕扬声器，看起来非常漂亮
前级放大器使用ONKYO，发射器1和接收器1，形成一个完整的无线系统
这可以吗？
非常感谢你！Millemissen
我认为我的比赛应该比图片更美丽^ - ^
Thank you very much! christiank
I am very glad to know it can be combined like this. Thank you for your help
christiank:Buy a complete Shape, including core and everything, and set it up. Connect a RJ45 cable from the TV to the leftmost (master) amplifier in the setup. Add the speakers in the TV's speaker group. Use it. ;) When using audio-sources from Core, the speaker will use the Band-on-the-wall algorithm. When using Powerlink it will automatically switch to stereo-filter, which is desired for use as surround speakers.
Oh! Dear Steve, thank you very much for your answer
My purpose is not to use BEOVISION, but to use other brands of TV, such as SONY. LAB18 is used for the main speaker, and SHAPE is used for the center speaker and surround speaker, which looks very beautiful
The preamplifier USES ONKYO, transmitter 1 and receiver 1 to form a complete wireless system
Is that ok?
Aussie Michael: In this do you mean the RJ45 always remains cabled ? Or just for the product setup ? If you use a shape as rears can you also use it as a streaming device when you’re not using it as rears ?
In this do you mean the RJ45 always remains cabled ? Or just for the product setup ?
If you use a shape as rears can you also use it as a streaming device when you’re not using it as rears ?
Well, the Core will be connected by optical and USB, while the TV is connected via Powerlink. Not just through setup.
Introduced in software 1.6.31769 a few months back :) Please take a look here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/8b5h2aeuu25h8y2/BeoSound%20Shape%20TV%20speakers.pdf?dl=0
lzsnyy: Oh! Dear Steve, thank you very much for your answer My purpose is not to use BEOVISION, but to use other brands of TV, such as SONY. LAB18 is used for the main speaker, and SHAPE is used for the center speaker and surround speaker, which looks very beautiful The preamplifier USES ONKYO, transmitter 1 and receiver 1 to form a complete wireless system Is that ok?
If that is your usecase, Steve's a bit more unofficial solution might be the right thing for you.
christiank: Aussie Michael: In this do you mean the RJ45 always remains cabled ? Or just for the product setup ? If you use a shape as rears can you also use it as a streaming device when you’re not using it as rears ? Well, the Core will be connected by optical and USB, while the TV is connected via Powerlink. Not just through setup. Introduced in software 1.6.31769 a few months back :) Please take a look here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/8b5h2aeuu25h8y2/BeoSound%20Shape%20TV%20speakers.pdf?dl=0
Thank you C
I got a bit confused as when i read as a surround speaker, i thought of WISA straight away
As i now know the Shape is not WISA, of course a direct connection is required with your television (for my use case)
Appreciate your feedback and informative PDF
Cheers
M
Everything is possible, but its a bit of a hack.
Thanks for that PDF - should be made more public!
christiank:Everything is possible, but its a bit of a hack.
Aussie Michael: christiank: Everything is possible, but its a bit of a hack. Reading between the lines that means to me you could use a receiver 1 or a couple to take the place of the physical power link then 🤔
christiank: Everything is possible, but its a bit of a hack.
Reading between the lines that means to me you could use a receiver 1 or a couple to take the place of the physical power link then
🤔
2 recievers (1 receiver = 1 channel = same channel on both L+R wire in the powerlink cable).
For that exact reason you'll also need special cables OR a modified 2 splitter (the latter is the solution I prefer).
Hi,
Yes, you need two Receiver 1s for stereo sound, I can build the specially wired cables to get both left and right channels correctly to the speaker (the same cables are often used by customers who want to make Beolab 2 wireless).
FWIW: If I was going to purchase and use Shape for rear-channel(s) speakers, I'd probably purchase another set of AudioEngine's wireless adapters. For several years, I've used one of their products (1/transmitter, 2/receivers ) to provide rear L&R to my BL6000s. A little finicky, but it's worked well. Disclosure: I haven't seen or priced B&O's Transmitter product.