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The Beonic Man: Daniel: The logic of the new remote is great, but I miss sitting laidback in the coach with "The Power" in my hand and using it without lifting my arm. Good point. It's strange how I seem to hold the Beo 4 90% of the time when watching TV or movies! Perhaps we will get used to it and it will be the same? Practice makes perfect! I do like that the new remote is lighter, although some say they miss the weight so we can't all win!
Daniel: The logic of the new remote is great, but I miss sitting laidback in the coach with "The Power" in my hand and using it without lifting my arm.
The logic of the new remote is great, but I miss sitting laidback in the coach with "The Power" in my hand and using it without lifting my arm.
Good point. It's strange how I seem to hold the Beo 4 90% of the time when watching TV or movies! Perhaps we will get used to it and it will be the same? Practice makes perfect! I do like that the new remote is lighter, although some say they miss the weight so we can't all win!
I really hope so. I did some practice during the soccer games yesterday, but it's hard. I started with my thumb on the OK button, but my unsensitive finger just slides over the plastic.
One good thing is turning the stand. When I change position in the coach, I turn the TV after. Just one press up to the right on the remote, and then arrow left och right. No problem in the dark and much easier then on Beo4, just two clicks.
Millemissen: Why are we chasing higher resolution/more pixels/4K? We should be chasing 'better picture quality'. MM
Why are we chasing higher resolution/more pixels/4K?
We should be chasing 'better picture quality'.
MM
Absolutely agree, and y'all know I've said it before. Pixel count is way down the list of things that improve image quality. What seems to happen is that marketing works, and brightness works, so that everyone buys LCDs and ignore plasmas which are going away. For the present, plasma is the best combination of affordability (mature technology) and video performance.
OLED has great potential, but it hasn't dropped in price or increased in size as rapidly as I'd have hoped. There are production yield and longevity issues with OLED that are not yet sorted out perfectly, and may never be. Either inability to mature the technology will hit, or it will take them so long that everyone will be obsessed with the next marketing fad, and we will only have substandard sets to choose from.
Jeff
I'm afraid I'm recovering from the BeoVirus.
This thread is going a bit off topic. However, today I installed an SSD in my Avant! It works well but the interface for time shifting and recording could be better (I still don't understand how to jump out of time-shift, haven't given the manual a try yet - it should not be necessary if the interface was designed from a UX perspective). It´s a pity that recordings cant be read from another device - I would like to be able to store some recordings from it (like when I was in the audience at a soccer game a few days ago).
Beolab 50, Beolab 8000 x 2, Beolab 4000 x 2, BeoSound Core, BeoSound 9000, BeoSound Century, BeoLit 15, BeoPlay A1, BeoPlay P2, BeoPlay H9 3rd Gen, BeoPlay H6, EarSet 3i, BeoVision Eclipse Gen 2 55", BeoPlay V1-40, BeoCom 6000 and so much else :)
Michael VIMEO is now accepting 4K AND some videos allow you to download the uncompressed 4K original. Here's an example... A massive 2GB compared to the 1080p of 180mb!!!!!!!!
https://vimeo.com/99523009
Enjoy
I wonder if you can retro fit a hard disk to a bv 11 ?
BeoNut since '75
@ Elephant: Thanks for sharing. Say more about how it went and what you thought of the new Avant in person etc?
@ Michael: You sure putting that SSD their is a good strategy? Isn't it going to get too hot? Especially since users have commented how hot it gets at the back already. It's not blocking any vents is it?
B&O products are V1-32, BS2, H95, E8 and an Essence remote.11-46 now replaced with Sony A90J 65”, Sony HT-A9, Sony UBP-X800M2 and Sony SRS-NS7.
elephant:Today's The Day .... at least in Melbourne ! Beoworlders Andy, Cliff, Ed and SWMBOs and sons were present at the official Melbourne launch Thanks Annie, James, Terry and others for a great night
Beoworlders Andy, Cliff, Ed and SWMBOs and sons were present at the official Melbourne launch
Thanks Annie, James, Terry and others for a great night
And even i'm in the photo in my beige jacket and pink shirt :-) lol
btw i loved the launch and the television. I also love the remote, it's actually smaller than i thought, and i loved how it felt: modern and very user friendly.
Can barely see you Michael right at the back their! Glad you like the new TV and remote though! I like the table stand the most. Did they have it on show?
Aussie Michael:And even i'm in the photo in my beige jacket and pink shirt :-) lol
I'm sure you've all got smashing blouses on
The Beonic Man:@ Michael: You sure putting that SSD their is a good strategy? Isn't it going to get too hot? Especially since users have commented how hot it gets at the back already. It's not blocking any vents is it?
ssd's have no moving parts hence no friction hence no heat production
= basic physics
you'd think anyone would know that , lol
Flappo:ssd's have no moving parts hence no friction hence no heat production = basic physics you'd think anyone would know that , lol
I know , some other's don't..
:D
Flappo: I know , some other's don't.. :D
:) now they do!
Flappo: ssd's have no moving parts hence no friction hence no heat production = basic physics you'd think anyone would know that , lol
Gee, that must be why CPUs and graphics cards don't need cooling, no moving parts! Oh, wait...
• There is no vents there and the area is not hot - it is just a hollow space. • The SSD draws about 0.069 watts in action, and idles around 0.054 watts - it won't get very hot.• The USB port can't output more than ~2.5 watts.• I see no reason for why it would be a problem - and a sales pitch is that you can put a drive and an apple tv in the space.
The CPU in my MacBook Pro goes up to 47 watts, and the GPU to 33 watts. They do much more work than the SSD - but sure, electronics can get very hot! But I think I am safe with the SSD.
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Sorry to those whose post I have removed but I have taken out the diatribe by one poster. I apologise for not seeing it before and would hope that Jeff and Millemissen continue to offer their cogent posts in future. Apologies to moxxey for removing the last post - it got caught up in the delete children function.
Abusing other members on Beoworld is not acceptable behaviour and will not be tolerated.
Peter
@ Beonic Man - they had one BV, on the motorised floor stand, which is the floor model from the Collins Street store, where I'll go for a daytime look on Friday, before I head out of Melbourne again lol. They are yet to have one with the table stand, which is probably a more flexible solution for a lot of people, especially those with television cabinets etc
@ elephant - yes you can! lol ;-) Seriously though it was pretty dark in there you could really only see others that were standing close.
I actually prefer it with the table stand, and if was in a position to get an avant that's the option i would go for.
Beoplay A2
I haven't had the time to read all the postings in this thread - so forgive me, if someone else has mentioned this...
But... My local dealer has just sent an e-mail, telling that B&O for a limited period of time sells the Avant with 5 years warranty instead of the usual 3 years...Anybody else got this offer..?
Steffen: I haven't had the time to read all the postings in this thread - so forgive me, if someone else has mentioned this... But... My local dealer has just sent an e-mail, telling that B&O for a limited period of time sells the Avant with 5 years warranty instead of the usual 3 years...Anybody else got this offer..?
If that's so I think it's a very smart idea...a good way to get buyers to not get gunshy about early teething problems is to make sure they feel like they have less risk with a longer warranty. Several car makers have done that when issues with a new model have cropped up. I know it would make me feel better about a high dollar purchase of a very new product.
The Beonic Man:@ Elephant: Thanks for sharing. Say more about how it went and what you thought of the new Avant in person etc?
Steffen: But... My local dealer has just sent an e-mail, telling that B&O for a limited period of time sells the Avant with 5 years warranty instead of the usual 3 years... Anybody else got this offer..?
we tend to forget there is more to design than designing.
I think its important to highlight that the 5-year warranty was announced and available ahead of the BeoVision Avant 55. In some quarters its been popular for some on this board to have invalid opinions about 4k and to amplify out of proportion the issues on the early delivered products.
I have to say that B&O have been exemplary. I had the first new Avant supplied by my dealership and on this board. Mine featured the issues and I raised them early last week and my new TV arrives in mid-July. Outstanding customer service.
Dropped by at my dealer today.
He had one Avant in the store - a 'faulty' one.
All others were sold/delievered to the costumers.
He showed me the marks behind the screen - indeed very visible, but only with the tv turned off.
When turning on the tv, you could see massive juddering, untill it 'found itself'/'settled down'.
Picture quality was pretty good then, even with a normal tv signal.
He was not proud at all - but this was his only Avant left, which was to be send back as soon as possible.
Next week he gets a delievery of 20 units - allmost all of them already sold.
Obvisiously they were too early brought to the market - but I am confident that the company will handle this 'disaster' in the best possible way.
In three or four months time all will be forgotten, and people will enjoy this pretty beast as much as people enjoy the BV11.
By then we will discuss the 85" version on the forum
There is a tv - and there is a BV
Found a couple of UHD video websites:
http://demo-uhd3d.com
- offers several UHD videos as downloadable video files.
http://www.uhdvideos.net
- points to a lot of YouTube UHD content.
Question:
How do I play these videos on the Avant?
Gonna test drive the Avant, and as there are limitations to its built-in 4K capabilities, which sources (internal / external) work for UHD content? Maybe some current Avant owners could give some advice on this, I'd appreciate it.
KMA
B&O product history since 1991: Ridiculously long to list in a signature.
KMA: Found a couple of UHD video websites: http://demo-uhd3d.com
Thanks ! I spotted a copy of "Tears of Steel" that I already had in 1080 format, so that might help make for interesting comparisons
@KMA - you will most likely need something/an external player, that can decode the VP9 encoded (Youtube) or the H.265 ecoded content.
And you must connect that 'device' to the HDMI1 - which is the port, that is used in the shops for 4K demo material from the UHD-Player.
Note: I don't know if the Avant already has a VP9-decoder built-in - after all that is free.
That would have to be tested from a Avant owner.
Millemissen: @KMA - you will most likely need something/an external player, that can decode the VP9 encoded (Youtube) or the H.265 ecoded content. And you must connect that 'device' to the HDMI1 - which is the port, that is used in the shops for 4K demo material from the UHD-Player. Note: I don't know if the Avant already has a VP9-decoder built-in - after all that is free. That would have to be tested from a Avant owner. MM
I Use HDMI2 for 4K on my Avant.
Michael:I Use HDMI2 for 4K on my Avant.
elephant: Michael: I Use HDMI2 for 4K on my Avant. Have you tried playing from an USB stick or drive ?
Michael: I Use HDMI2 for 4K on my Avant.
Have you tried playing from an USB stick or drive ?
Nope, I can try it in the weekend perhaps.
In the stores they use the Mad Catz M.O.J.O.
http://madcatz.com/mojo-update-released-ouya-4k/
So there will be a PUC for that already.
Seems to be a gaming cosole, but that is what I have seen used for demoing the 4K content.
Michael and others that have received their lovely Avants, what equipment do you have plugged in besides Apple TV.
I'd be interested to hear about if you have cable boxes, blu ray players, etc, and how and where you have positioned these?
I went to the dealer today and met Elephant, the dealer said about the stb bracket, but i thought i'd ask the group and garner their feedback.
Thanks in advance
Michael.
Aussie Michael: Michael and others that have received their lovely Avants, what equipment do you have plugged in besides Apple TV. I'd be interested to hear about if you have cable boxes, blu ray players, etc, and how and where you have positioned these? I went to the dealer today and met Elephant, the dealer said about the stb bracket, but i thought i'd ask the group and garner their feedback. Thanks in advance Michael.
Actually, I heven't got an Apple TV, yet.
So far I only have:
Bluray: Was about to get a Playstation 4, but to my surprise it doesn't do 3D. The OPPO is too much money as we selldom rent movies. I will wait until after the World Cup as there's no time for movies now anyway. This gives my some extra time to search the market for a good bluray (and maybe time for Sony introduces 3D for the PS4).
Apple TV: Same reason as for bluray. No time during World Cup, and maybe there will be a release date for the new Apple TV. Maybe I wait for that.
Hard disk: I will search the market for the right one (after you know what has finished).
Analogue: I believe it's a mini din 9 connection so I just ordered a "mini din 9 to 3*RCA" cable just to see if I can connect my old Nintendo 64. Probably a lousy picture quality, but I just must try.
The Smart TV-function is worthless, just a few apps available for download. Only the YouTube app is something to have, but the TV already have a YouTube function. Where's NetFlix, ViaPlay, SVTplay etc?
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