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TuneIn not working on Essence mk I

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TWG replied on Mon, Sep 21 2020 9:09 AM

@ Mark Chahal Holden and sbmayall: Done.

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Can i please ask you to help me as well

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TWG replied on Tue, Sep 22 2020 7:34 AM

You've got Mail.

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Wilderwein replied on Tue, Sep 22 2020 10:00 AM

Thank you!

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Wilderwein replied on Tue, Sep 22 2020 10:00 AM

Double post

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djneo replied on Thu, Oct 1 2020 11:41 AM

Hy, could I also get it ?

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I sent the download link to djneo that i got from T.W.G just to make it easier for T.W.G hope thats ok.

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I sent the download link to djneo that i got from T.W.G just to make it easier for T.W.G hope thats ok.

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djneo replied on Thu, Oct 1 2020 12:42 PM

Thanks, I got it

Got a second hand Essence, Now it at least does Tune IN,  sadly Spotify and even DLNA are not working 

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Have you tried to reset the device?

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djneo replied on Thu, Oct 1 2020 1:27 PM

Yes, get the message "The selected product does not support Deezer content playback" when playing DLNA

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CB replied on Wed, Oct 7 2020 6:55 PM

Hi

is someone able to list what works and what doesn’t on the mk1 please?

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CB:
is someone able to list what works and what doesn’t on the mk1 please?

Hi CB, Hope all is well for you.

You see the add too? 30€? Big Smile

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CB replied on Wed, Oct 7 2020 8:05 PM

Exactly Smile

May be from a Beoworlder?

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CB replied on Fri, Oct 9 2020 5:39 PM
My “new” BS Essence mk1 has firmware version 4189 from 2018-05-22

Is there a better one?

Thanks
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CB:

My “new” BS Essence mk1 has firmware version 4189 from 2018-05-22

Is there a better one?

Thanks

That’s the latest I’ve been able to find.

Thank you, TWG!
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CB replied on Fri, Oct 9 2020 6:47 PM

Thank you Lawrence for your answer.

This BS Essence mk1 may have an issue... may be several:

- I can reach the configuration web page and enter my wifi settings, but on the software page, the frame for manual update is simply not there !?!

- Neither the BeoTool app nor the BeoMusic app nor the GoogleHome app can see it on my network

- but... I can play music via AirPlay !

I also tried a reset, nothing changed

Quite odd Unsure

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TWG replied on Fri, Oct 9 2020 6:58 PM

CB:
Thank you Lawrence for your answer.

This BS Essence mk1 may have an issue... may be several:

- I can reach the configuration web page and enter my wifi settings, but on the software page, the frame for manual update is simply not there !?!

- Neither the BeoTool app nor the BeoMusic app nor the GoogleHome app can see it on my network

- but... I can play music via AirPlay !

Quite odd Unsure


You have to use the IP-Adress of the Essence and enter the adress manually into your browser. Log into your router and search for your essence in the network. There you'll see an adress with the syntax e.g. 192.168.2.231

This is the adress you'll type into your browser and then you should see the configuration page of your Essence without any App, Google / Apple Assistant etc.
There you should see the manual update button on the software page.

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CB replied on Fri, Oct 9 2020 7:10 PM
TWG:
You have to use the IP-Adress of the Essence and enter the adress manually into your browser. Log into your router and search for your essence in the network. There you'll see an adress with the syntax e.g. 192.168.2.231 This is the adress you'll type into your browser and then you should see the configuration page of your Essence without any App, Google / Apple Assistant etc. There you should see the manual update button on the software page.

Thank you TWG, that’s already what I did.

For the manual update button, it's ok now (it’s only visible from a computer, not from an iPad !)

NB: The BeoplayRemote GUI can see the Essence on my network, but because no music service is configured, nothing happened if I press play of course.

The main issue is still there: only Airplay works Erm..

May be flashing it again with the latest FW (or an older...) may solve something ?

--> if a smart Beoworlder accept to send me the link... Thanks Smile
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CB:

Thank you TWG, that’s already what I did.

For the manual update button, it's ok now (it’s only visible from a computer, not from an iPad !)

NB: The BeoplayRemote GUI can see the Essence on my network, but because no music service is configured, nothing happened if I press play of course.

The main issue is still there: only Airplay works

May be flashing it again with the latest FW (or an older...) may solve something ?

--> if a smart Beoworlder accept to send me the link... Thanks

My Essence Mk Is are packed away right now. From memory:

- TuneIn works.

- AirPlay works

- I’ve never tried Chromecast, Spotify, DLNA or Deezer

- It’s not Netlink compatible

- Essence remote controls it in Bluetooth mode.
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TWG replied on Sat, Oct 10 2020 7:24 AM

CB:
TWG:
You have to use the IP-Adress of the Essence and enter the adress manually into your browser. Log into your router and search for your essence in the network. There you'll see an adress with the syntax e.g. 192.168.2.231 This is the adress you'll type into your browser and then you should see the configuration page of your Essence without any App, Google / Apple Assistant etc. There you should see the manual update button on the software page.

 

Thank you TWG, that’s already what I did.

 

For the manual update button, it's ok now (it’s only visible from a computer, not from an iPad !)

NB: The BeoplayRemote GUI can see the Essence on my network, but because no music service is configured, nothing happened if I press play of course.

The main issue is still there: only Airplay works Erm..

May be flashing it again with the latest FW (or an older...) may solve something ?

--> if a smart Beoworlder accept to send me the link... Thanks Smile

Sent you the link via "start a conversation" on your profile.

With the latest firmware Tune in internetradio should work, too.

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CB replied on Sat, Oct 10 2020 9:17 AM
Thanks again Thomas Yes - thumbs up

Before loading this firmware version, this morning I tried to configure the Essence with an Android phone (instead of iOS devices like I did yesterday) and...

Tadaaa, it works !?!

The Essence is seen by the B&O android app, and now that the Essence is set up and registered on my account, henceforth, it's also accessible through the B&O iOS app.

Strange, but it works.

Update successfully completed now Cool

Thank you Lawrence

as far as I understand, the mk1 is not multiroom (not able to "join")?

And even worse, it’s not (no more?) Chromecast-able —> That’s a very bad news Angry

I will get in touch with the B&O support to try to revert to an older firmware if that helps (I’m not interest by Spotify)
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HAWK replied on Sat, Oct 10 2020 5:49 PM

TuneIN works on MK1, but only the HTTP channels but NOT the ones using HTTPS (most commercial radio stations use this I am afraid....)

Bluetooth control works, bluetooth streaming also. But the BT (Essence) remote has much less features as it seems: no source change or track change? Volume control works.

Chromecast is not present, also not able to get Spotify Connect working on MK1. 

 

I am very glad my "old" MK2 is working again now, so I got all TuneIN channels working again, as well as Spotify and Chromecast! 

The MK1 is for sale, if anyone is interested :)

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CB replied on Sat, Oct 10 2020 6:47 PM
HAWK:
TuneIN works on MK1, but only the HTTP channels but NOT the ones using HTTPS (most commercial radio stations use this I am afraid....)

That may explain a lot of mysteries !

Thank you.
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HAWK replied on Sat, Oct 10 2020 7:01 PM

CB:
HAWK:
TuneIN works on MK1, but only the HTTP channels but NOT the ones using HTTPS (most commercial radio stations use this I am afraid....)

 

That may explain a lot of mysteries !

 

Thank you.

Let me know what stations do NOT play, and I can check if it indeed is the HTTPS problem. 

 

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CB replied on Sat, Oct 10 2020 8:16 PM
Djam, for example.
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HAWK replied on Sat, Oct 10 2020 9:03 PM

DJAM is working on the MK2 (David Bowie was loud and clear here Smile) and indeed this seems to be using HTTPS.

Can you try to play Kiss FM Ukraine, NPO FunX or Sky Radio Smooth Hits and see if they play on the MK1? They all are using HTTP.

 

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CB replied on Sun, Oct 11 2020 7:32 AM
HAWK:
Can you try to play Kiss FM Ukraine, NPO FunX or Sky Radio Smooth Hits and see if they play on the MK1? They all are using HTTP.

Kiss FM Ukraine : ok

NPO FunX : ok

Sky Radio Smooth Hits : not found (there is a bunch of sky radio “something”, but smooth hits)

Radio satellite2 : nok

The sound of jazz : nok

RTL (France) : nok

WUVT-FM : nok

None of my manually entered flows works
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TWG replied on Sun, Oct 11 2020 8:35 AM

1.) How can I change the DLNA server?
I had only the server overview the first time I choosed the DLNA server option. How can I go back and choose another DLNA server?

2.) What's the "this content can't be played back with Deezer" error message when I try to play music from a networked PC in my home network?
I only get this message from my Essence MK1 while every other DLNA compatible player at home does play the music without any problems.

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CB replied on Sun, Oct 11 2020 8:57 AM
1) First, click on the little guy to access your account information

Then, click on Music, then DLNA

Look for a little + sign on the top right

2) I’ve got the same problem Sad
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HAWK replied on Sun, Oct 11 2020 4:18 PM

CB:
HAWK:
Can you try to play Kiss FM Ukraine, NPO FunX or Sky Radio Smooth Hits and see if they play on the MK1? They all are using HTTP.

Kiss FM Ukraine : ok

NPO FunX : ok

Sky Radio Smooth Hits : not found (there are is a bunch of sky radio “something”, but smooth hits)

Radio satellite2 : nok

The sound of jazz : nok

RTL (France) : nok

WUVT-FM : nok

None of my manually entered flows works

WUVT-FM, RTL (France) and The Sound of Jazz all play (on my MK2), Radio Satellite2 strangely enoug not.

 

Manually (TuneIN) entered flows/URLs did not work on the MK1, they do on the MK2.  

 

PS: look for Smooth Hits (Sky Radio is only in the logo I see, not in the name). 

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CB replied on Wed, Oct 21 2020 6:37 PM
TWG:

2.) What's the "this content can't be played back with Deezer" error message when I try to play music from a networked PC in my home network?

I only get this message from my Essence MK1 while every other DLNA compatible player at home does play the music without any problems.

Hi

I opened a ticket on this issue, sent videos to show what is going on, but the answers I got so far don't give me confidence in B&O willingness to figure out / fix this issue. .
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CB replied on Fri, Oct 23 2020 5:06 PM
Hi

I’ve tried several DLNA Players for iOS, and some work, some don’t.

In order to be sure the music is really played from the server to the renderer (Essence) and not by the app like with Airplay, I start the song and then stop the app. If the music goes on, it’s ok.

* MyAudioStreamer (iPhone & iPad) : ok

* 8Player lite : ok

* Creation 5 (sound control does not always work) : ok

* mconnect Player lite : nok

* Glider : nok

* VLC : nok

* JuP&P : nok

* B&O app : ok to find the music on the DLNA server, but nok to start the music

Once started by another app, is able to pause/play !?!

—> the B&O app may clearly solve the problem (Mr Andersen, if you read these lines...)

NB : the Essence is not supposed to play FLAC files, but it does...

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Can i please ask you to help me as well, thanks very much

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HAWK:
TuneIN works on MK1, but only the HTTP channels but NOT the ones using HTTPS (most commercial radio stations use this I am afraid....)

 

I have a potential fix for this anyone needs it.  The cost is whatever you would pay for a Raspbery Pi.
(I'm using a $10 Raspberry Pi Zero W, but it's only powerful enough for a single station.)

My favorite local jazz station stopped working on all my B&O gear about 18 months ago when the station moved their offices and upgraded their streamers.  After going 'round and 'round with the station and B&O I realized they would never fix it.

I solved the problem with a Raspberry Pi and a streaming platform called icecast2.  I use vlc on the Raspberry Pi to bring in the stream from the source and transcode it into something the B&O gear will accept.  the transcoded stream gets sent to the icecast server (running on the same Raspberry Pi) where it is available for my B&O gear to stream.  I've added a "Custom URL" to Tunein using their app that points toward the Pi instead of the original station's streaming URL.  The B&O devices are happy to play the transcoded (and http rather than https) streams and everything works as original.

If anyone else wants to use this method, let me know and I'll write up some instructions.

 

EDIT: I won't be checking this thread forever, so if anyone wants help, my email address at Yahoo dot com is EEAlexHay - that's the best way to contact me if you don't hear from me here.

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HAWK replied on Thu, Nov 5 2020 8:02 AM

Wow, that sounds as a great workaround laseralex! Am now using a (refurbished) MK2, so not really needed, but can be very useful for MK1 users!

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TWG replied on Thu, Nov 5 2020 7:58 PM

tuttiverkaufen:

Can i please ask you to help me as well, thanks very much



Email sent. :)

 

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ich habe die software 4189

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CB replied on Fri, Nov 13 2020 6:09 PM
CB:
I’ve tried several DLNA Players for iOS, and some work, some don’t.

In order to be sure the music is really played from the server to the renderer (Essence) and not by the app like with Airplay, I start the song and then stop the app. If the music goes on, it’s ok.

* MyAudioStreamer (iPhone & iPad) : ok

* 8Player lite : ok

* Creation 5 (sound control does not always work) : ok

Add to the list this one : MusicLife (from Harmann)

Works very well on iOS

Just activate this in the settings to see the Essence :

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CB replied on Sat, Nov 14 2020 1:11 PM
Hi

Just noticed that the Essence (mk1) doesn’t show up in the BeoTool app ?!?

Same for you ?
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