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LG Innotek WiSA USB transmitter has been talked about for two years now. It reminds me of that time B&O announced on stereo sound on television. I bought a Beovision LX 28 "TV with Stereo decoder. It also took two years before the television stations broadcast stereo TV signals to consumers.
LG OLED C7. Beolab 7.2 / S8. / BV.7-32 floor stand..
Photo & idea Leo.
LG Electronics at the HIGH END 2019 trade show in Munich. This marks both the European launch of the WiSA Ready™* initiative and LG's 2019 OLED and Nano Cell TV series equipped with this special feature. The TVs are compatible with WiSA USB Transmitters and a range of intelligent WiSA Certified™ speakers that deliver unparalleled sound for home theater. May 8. 2019. - Click here.
B&O's WiSA solution disappears, when the last genuine BeoVision TV has been sold. ?
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Why should B&O incorporate a WiSA transmitter module into Harmony Sound Center, when the opportunity is a LG Innotek WiSA USB dongle in the LG C9 77" TV B&O uses.Wait until sometime in October, so we know.
You can’t (yet) - it is probably hidden somewhere in a Franz Jäger safe.
For what do you intent to use it, by the way?
MM
There is a tv - and there is a BV
EgonOlsen:I have one little question. Where can I buy the wisa usb dongle?I can’t find it. And what is the price for that? Br EgonOlsen
Br EgonOlsen
Hi EgonOlsen
See answers to alexm86 page 43.
I just got a reply from profusion that they should have some arriving in about a week. They will then load a quote onto the website which will enable you to buy directly from there.
Let the madness begin....
EgonOlsen:Hi MM, Plug in a LG and then I have wisa to my beolab 18.
Plug in a LG and then I have wisa to my beolab 18.
Do you already have an LG/2019?
I suppose you will have to wait for that dongle, untill the tv is there.....and they have updated the sw in order to support WiSA Ready.
EgonOlsen: .....a beosound 9000 and a playmaker, which works already fine.
And how do you intend to use these afterwards (when the 18’s are connected to the LG)?
Millemissen:And how do you intend to use these afterwards (when the 18’s are connected to the LG)? MM There is a tv - and there is a BV.
BS Moment, BS Core, BG 4002, BC 4500, BS1, BL18, BL19, BL8000 + RCV1, A6, M5, M3, A1, P6 (tks Botty), H5, TR1
I probably fail to understand the question fully, but what would change? Current setup stays as it is and sends sound to 18s via Powerlink cable. And then 18s auto-switch inputs one day when LG TV starts sending TV sound via WISA wireless. So the answer is: same as today + there will be added TV sound to 18s through WISA. Or is that an impossible scenario?
AnalogPlanet:And then 18s auto-switch
Oh, yes! LOL Completely forgot about that fact. ;)
Well, the solution is: connect Beolab Transmitter 1 to BS9000 and then you can have all-WISA auto-switch functionality. :)
KISS!
Just hook the BS9000 up to the analog input on the the TV,- cakewalk!
If you want to take it one step further, inject the digital CD stream from the BS9000 into an HDMI input (box required) and you are digital all the way.
Then you can fully enjoy all the inevitable dropouts and other endless problems with the WISPA dingle-dongle... It will be sweet!
AnalogPlanet:Well, the solution is: connect Beolab Transmitter 1 to BS9000 and then you can have all-WISA auto-switch functionality. :)
alexm86:I just got a reply from profusion that they should have some arriving in about a week. They will then load a quote onto the website which will enable you to buy directly from there.
Thanks alexm86.I'm excited to hear more about how and how well LG Innotek WiSA USB transmitter works.
A pre-out eARC compatible receiver is also an option.
BEOVOX141: KISS! Just hook the BS9000 up to the analog input on the the TV,- cakewalk! If you want to take it one step further, inject the digital CD stream from the BS9000 into an HDMI input (box required) and you are digital all the way. Then you can fully enjoy all the inevitable dropouts and other endless problems with the WISPA dingle-dongle... It will be sweet!
Technically that’ll work, I guess.
Soundwise it will probably be less fantastic (apart from playing cd’s with the dig solution)
And controlwise....ugh! I wouldn’t want a system like that.
Not my recommendation!
As for the WiSA ‘dropouts and endless problems’ - I guess that has to be proved.....or unproved.
Millemissen: Technically that’ll work, I guess. Soundwise it will probably be less fantastic (apart from playing cd’s with the dig solution)
Would you care to elaborate on why this would less than fantastic. No matter how you slice the dice the BS9000 is analog and thus requires an analog input to make connection to another system. That is UNLESS you can accept CD only which can go all digital!
Millemissen:Not my recommendation!
Sure, spoken by someone who do does not own a BS9000 (Quote "what would I use that for") or a LG TV for that matter.
What would be your lectured recommendation ?
When Millemissen one day listens to this, he can fortunately assure us that it plays as it should, but he does not buy it.
BEOVOX141: Millemissen:Not my recommendation! Sure, spoken by someone who do does not own a BS9000 (Quote "what would I use that for") or a LG TV for that matter.
That is what you get, when someone couples two different statements.
In one case I wrote, that I would not recomment connecting the bespoken BS9000 to an LG-tv in the way that BEOVOX141 suggested.
That can be discussed - I know. I just stated my point of view for connecting two devices.
In another case I wrote that I personally have no need for a BS9000 - never had for that matter. This obviously upset BEOVOX141 quite a bit.
Peter Pan: When Millemissen one day listens to this, he can fortunately assure us that it plays as it should, but he does not buy it.
Having the opinion, that something ‘plays as it should’, does not necessarily mean that you will/must buy it.....
....if so, my house would be quite filled up with B&O tv’s and audiosystems.
Millemissen:I wrote, that I would not recomment connecting the bespoken BS9000 to an LG-tv in the way that BEOVOX141 suggested.
Yet you still have not explained why this would be a non preferred way, or what you WOULD recommend.
BEOVOX141: Millemissen:I wrote, that I would not recomment connecting the bespoken BS9000 to an LG-tv in the way that BEOVOX141 suggested. Yet you still have not explained why this would be a non preferred way, or what you WOULD recommend.
Just like I and many others do not tend to use the analog input port on the Avant for connecting an external A-device, I would not recomment using the equivalent port on a (LG)tv, that as an overall focusses on digital - that A/V port is a relict (who uses it....apart from you).
Since I suppose (although I know of no messurements), that the analog input port will not be par with the one on the Avant, I would not think of it a something useable for a BS9000.
Apart from this - some might want to live with that - there are two other reasons, why I would not recomment this to someone who is used to the ease of controlling a BS9000 setup.
Firstly you will always have to fiddle with levelling the output levels of the 9000 and the LG.
Secondly you will have to use two different remotes and you will have to work yourself through the menus of the LG-tv, before you can have sound from it.
(And, if he wanted to use the digital output of the BS9000 - for cd playback - he would have to use a box for injecting that into a HDMI port.....and the LG menu to find and open another imput port).
I have always thought that B&O is about ease of use for people in general....not for nerds.
The second part I already have answered a couple of days ago (in the danish thread).
Either you overread that - or you pedantically want it here too.
What I wrote there was:
’P.S. eneste forslag, jeg kunne give ham er at bruge B&O’s egen WPL Transmitter 1 samt (S8-)Connection Hub’en - det ville da være et forsøg værd!’
Go ahead - make your recommendation....I made mine - let Egon Olsen decide.
However, he is long gone - his assumed setup probably became more complicated, than he had expected.
This have since then turned into an academic discussion.....which I know that you prefer.
Millemissen:Just like I and many others do not tend to use the analog input port on the Avant for connecting an external A-device, I would not recomment using the equivalent port on a (LG)tv, that as an overall focusses on digital - that A/V port is a relict (who uses it....apart from you).
Ohhh you Fabulous Wise One, please do share where you find a non "relic" port for the BS9000 on the BLT (bacon, lettuce, tomato lol).
So I guess some are actually an analog input, and so do you! Priceless MM logic!
Hi MM,
currently i am happy with my setup.
- loewe Art 37 dr+ LED with Apple TV 4K (Apple TV sound output sometimes to the playmaker, if i want this)
- Beosound 9000 (loudness on, yeah) <-> cable <-> Beolab 18 <- sound is still unbelivable
- Playmaker <-> AUX Beosund 9000
- Playmaker for streaming some internet radio stations (BBC 6 Music, NDR Blue etc.)
BUT
i want a 4K (oled) television. since years i want a Beovision (Avant mk I). then i was a fan of BV 14 with lamellas, but android.
Then i want (my wife too) the horizon, but android
then last year i bought the eclipse with lamellas. eclipse with webos is ok, BUT the other parts of software are horrible at this time. the tv moved when he wants, not when i want (sorry for my english)
after easter time (2018) the dealer hold the tv back.
Now after 8 years with the 37 " Loewe i am interested in the new lg's, regarding airplay 2, wisa etc. But i am not sure...
BR,
Egon
Hi Egon.
Dont let anything discourage you, the BS9000 is well worth keeping. Some of us appreciate it simply because its a piece of contemporary art.
Why not simply do it the other way, forget about WISA it will give you zero noticeable benefits in sound.
Hook the LG up the Aux input of the BS9000 and make do with the Smart TV apps on the TV. Best of both worlds!
Hi Egon Olsen,
not sure whether these discussion bring you any further - only you may know that!
Since you haven’t decided for anything, it will be hard to give you any suggestions, anyway.
Owners of the Eclipse usually reports that the Eclipse is rather staple nowadays - but that too won’t help you much.
If you’d go for the ‘new LG’, you probably don’t intend to use the AppleTV -> Playmaker for sound?
Probably not, since you mention the AP2 as an internal part of the LG.
The LG owners with an additional BeoSound, that they want to keep on using plus BeoLabs have a real problem....
....unles you want to try out the ‘BEOVOX141-solution’.
Adding a BeoPlay S8 hub plus the Transmitter - as I suggested - might or may not solve the problem.
1: I don’t know if the hub is able to learn the codes of the LG-tv (?)
2: I don’t know if the problem, that it had in the beginning when connecting a BeoSound in addition has been solved with a later update.
It would switch to non-triggered output on the PL-out - and that probably would not be ok (?), when connecting the B&O WiSA/WPL Transmitter 1 there.
Since I am not able to test that, only your dealer could help there.....should you be interested in that kind of solution.
If you don’t need to run the 18’s wireless, it should be no problem to connect these to the Connection Hub using RJ45/PL - along with the LG via the optical-in and the BS9000 (or just the Playmaker) to the PL-in.
Connection Hub - see here: https://beoprime.com/media/pdf/2d/6b/59/BeoPlay-S8-MK-I-Connection-Hub.pdf Page 8 and on.
IMO worth investigating.
Anyway - it would be nice to hear from you, how you get along.
BEOVOX141: Hi Egon. Dont let anything discourage you, the BS9000 is well worth keeping. Some of us appreciate it simply because its a piece of contemporary art. Why not simply do it the other way, forget about WISA it will give you zero noticeable benefits in sound. Hook the LG up the Aux input of the BS9000 and make do with the Smart TV apps on the TV. Best of both worlds!
Wow - a post without bloomy language!
‘Hook the LG up the Aux input of the BS9000‘’
How do you do that?
Does modern LG’s have an analog output....apart from probably a headphone-out?
it is always good, to read your opinions. since years. thank you for that.
my time for a new tv will come - i am sure. i will let you know my decision.
MM.
Millemissen: ‘Hook the LG up the Aux input of the BS9000‘’ How do you do that?
Trolling again,- are we?
If you apply a bit of mental resources you can properly work it out based on the pictures of the connection panel Peter has been binge posting for weeks!
Or not...
Binge watching LG stuff can cause mental illness 😲
Do you mean that thingy called OUT audio/hp?
Did you try that out - and would you (still) recomment using that for an everyday working connection to the A.Aux-in of the 9000?
Hmmm... not sure why you would ignore the obvious solution i.e the digital out. The insurmountable problem fixed,- cost 100dkr!
How difficult was that? I know,- you are welcome
Now, BEOVOX141 and Millemissen have written a lot about connecting your BeoSoundt 9000 for a LG C9 TV. I want to think it can be done like that. Analog stereo pre-out. Can be operatedwith Beo4. It will also be possible to volume control with Beo4.
https://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1557385354
Caine Thanatos - So ... how is the testing going ? :)