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LG 2019 OLED TV- WiSA Wireless- Soundbar- Dolby Atmos audio.

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Peter Pan Posted: Wed, Dec 12 2018 11:40 AM | Locked

For Home Entertainment Via LG’s 2019 Line-Up of OLED and Flagship UHD/LCD WiSA Ready TVs

Click here. - Click here.

LG TV line for March / April, these things get HOT. We write about LG 4K TVs 2019 lineups -
HDMI 2.1 - eARC system, - Audio accessories - WiSA. If you have news now, write. Thanks. Yes - thumbs up

 

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Michael replied on Wed, Dec 12 2018 11:44 AM | Locked
Really interesting and great. Built in support for

5.1 and more. No real need then perhaps for a Beocenter, even though I would prefer having the correct profile for each speaker type. Now only puc is missing. Then most of the stuff is there.

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Emil Jensen replied on Wed, Dec 12 2018 12:18 PM | Locked

I would not say most stuff is there,

I would say one thing closer Big Smile

But it is very good, and I do think that it could drive Beolab sales up.

Imo I would still miss a lot of functions...

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Michael replied on Wed, Dec 12 2018 12:27 PM | Locked
Emil Jensen:

I would not say most stuff is there,

I would say one thing closer

But it is very good, and I do think that it could drive Beolab sales up.

Imo I would still miss a lot of functions...

Beovision Eclipse, Beolab 20, Beosound 1 Google assist, Beoplay M3, Beoplay H6

Certainly but it will mean that more people have more choices without having to add a receiver. I also think this will make wisa speakers more frequent, which is a good thing too.

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Emil Jensen replied on Wed, Dec 12 2018 12:33 PM | Locked

Indeed a very good thing :)

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Millemissen replied on Wed, Dec 12 2018 12:39 PM | Locked

Why just one thread, when we can have two....about this 🤥

https://archivedforum2.beoworld.org/forums/p/35692/265039.aspx#265039

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Millemissen replied on Wed, Dec 12 2018 12:42 PM | Locked

If so, I’ll copy my post from there - which very much gives my take on this:

This was expected, after the announcement of the WiSA Ready solution in september:

https://www.dealerscope.com/article/new-wisa-ready-certification-launches-alongside-first-certified-product/

A pre-model was tested a couple of years ago in Struer (with some LG/2016 models).

I would not say that it is bad news - however, you MUST to go wireless.....maybe B&O should start producing extra Receiver 1’s 😉

And you won’t benefit from the B&O audio solutions/engine, the integration of NL and the controlling with a BeoRemote One......

They claim support for Atmos/DTS-X.

With 8 channels I don’t see much support for overhead channels - it might be sufficient for a lot of users, though.

We will be wiser (= wisa) after CES 2019.

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Millemissen replied on Wed, Dec 12 2018 12:48 PM | Locked

Michael:
I also think this will make wisa speakers more frequent, which is a good thing too.

WiSA speakers, maybe - but do you really think, that the average LG buyer will get 2 or more -pretty expensive - BeoLabs?

I don’t!

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Peter Pan replied on Wed, Dec 12 2018 12:56 PM | Locked


HDMI 2.1 / eARC (Enhanced Audio Return Channel) on LG 2019 OLED solves many known issues in the future. We can hope for it too.-

Click here.

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Millemissen replied on Wed, Dec 12 2018 1:03 PM | Locked

Michael:
Really interesting and great. Built in support for

5.1 and more. No real need then perhaps for a Beocenter, even though I would prefer having the correct profile for each speaker type. Now only puc is missing. Then most of the stuff is there.

I am really amazed how the longtime effords, research and experimenting of the Audio Department in Struer (key words: Technical Sound Guide, TrueImage™ algorithm, Geoff Martin - read his blog.....) is neglected.

Maybe that is/was all in vain, when even B&O users can get along with much less.

I am still be be convinced that a ‘surround solution’ in an LG-tv can come nowhere near a B&O sound solution as used in the BSys4 platform-based products.

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Emil Jensen replied on Wed, Dec 12 2018 1:03 PM | Locked

Millemissen:

Michael:
I also think this will make wisa speakers more frequent, which is a good thing too.

WiSA speakers, maybe - but do you really think, that the average LG buyer will get 2 or more -pretty expensive - BeoLabs?

I don’t!

MM

I bought my Beolab 20 2 years before buying a Beovision, 

A lot more people think the price of a beovision is insane than Beolabs.

Imo Beolab is much more value for the money, as they do not turn obsolete the same way. 

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Millemissen replied on Wed, Dec 12 2018 1:07 PM | Locked

Emil Jensen:

A lot more people think the price of a beovision is insane than Beolabs.

Imo Beolab is much more value for the money, as they do not turn obsolete the same way. 

I am not talking about BeoVisions - after all we know, there will be no more of these.

Don’t try to convince me of ‘the value for money’ of the WiSA-BeoLabs - try to convince an LG OLED buyer.

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Millemissen replied on Wed, Dec 12 2018 1:11 PM | Locked

Peter Pan:


HDMI 2.1 / eARC (Enhanced Audio Return Channel) on LG 2019 OLED solves many known issues in the future. We can hope for it too.-

Click here.

Why would you need eARC in that case - the sound comes direct from the tv using the connected WiSA dongle as transmitter.

There is no receiver/prepro ,that would need eARC, involved there.

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Peter Pan replied on Wed, Dec 12 2018 1:25 PM | Locked

@ Millemissen you have one of the last = BeoVision Avant 2014 from B & O.

Today, a TV from Bang & Olufsen is a LG 2017 OLED TV, and probably the last one we've seen.
So you can wish the past to bake, as much as you want. a BeoVision TV is an LG tv.

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Millemissen replied on Wed, Dec 12 2018 2:20 PM | Locked

Peter Pan:

@ Millemissen you have one of the last = BeoVision Avant 2014 from B & O.

Today, a TV from Bang & Olufsen is a LG 2017 OLED TV, and probably the last one we've seen.
So you can wish the past to bake, as much as you want. a BeoVision TV is an LG tv.

I am pretty sure, that those who know and those who actually own a BeoVision Eclipse won’t agree with you.

If you only had the slightest experience, hands on of an Eclipse, I could take your statement seriously.

No, it is not a BV7 for sure - I know....

.....and thank god for that!

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Peter Pan replied on Wed, Dec 12 2018 2:30 PM | Locked

From Marts 2018 Read here.

Millemissen - Read it all.  Smile. Now we soon writing 2019 = Time to implement HDMI 2.1 and eARC.

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Sibbi replied on Wed, Dec 12 2018 3:12 PM | Locked

I like this, I miss my beolabs. I had a pair of beolab 17 and a 19 sub. The Beovision Horizon was however horrible and after endless troubles I sold it and all my B&O. I will never ever buy another Beovision but an LG oled at LG prices with Beolabs could be nice.

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Peter Pan replied on Wed, Dec 12 2018 3:25 PM | Locked

Hallo Sibbi

Setting BeoLab 19 for WiSA Wireless Audio Transfer. Photo Aussie Michael

These are Aussie Michael settings
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Wired / Wireless = Wireless to the Avant
L / R/ L+R = L + R

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Millemissen replied on Wed, Dec 12 2018 3:51 PM | Locked

Peter Pan:

From Marts 2018 Read here.

Millemissen - Read it all.  Smile. Now we soon writing 2019 = Time to implement HDMI 2.1 and eARC.

Why/for what will you need that, when using a WiSA Ready/transmitter dongle ssolution for the sound?

That dongle is connected via USB, not HDMI.

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Peter Pan replied on Wed, Dec 12 2018 4:01 PM | Locked

 Do not be afraid of the way Millemissen to write on.
Millemissen has a lot of experience with B & O, but is not much for that to realize
the need to learn something about the new times. Time does not stand still.

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Millemissen replied on Wed, Dec 12 2018 4:03 PM | Locked

So, why - why do you need eARC in that case?

Please tell us!

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Peter Pan replied on Wed, Dec 12 2018 4:08 PM | Locked

Read about the sound quality.

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Millemissen replied on Wed, Dec 12 2018 4:19 PM | Locked

Peter Pan:

Read about the sound quality.

I give up 😂

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Peter Pan replied on Wed, Dec 12 2018 4:22 PM | Locked

Loss-free audio (Dolby TrueHD or DTS-HD MA). Correction of "lip sync", ie sync between picture and sound,
From ARC, Bandwidth expands from approx. 2-3Mb / s in ARC to 37 Mb / s in eARC. In other
words, 7.1 surround and lossless HD audio can be transmitted.

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Millemissen replied on Wed, Dec 12 2018 4:32 PM | Locked

My definitely last try...

You are talking HDMI,

The WiSA dongle, that is used for the wireless connection to the speakers, is USB - so not relevant here.

(Save your HDMI 2.1/eARC hype for another thread - maybe one about a coming HDMI-connected Sound Center/Soundbar from B&O).

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Michael replied on Wed, Dec 12 2018 4:46 PM | Locked
Millemissen:

I am really amazed how the longtime effords, research and experimenting of the Audio Department in Struer (key words: Technical Sound Guide, TrueImage™ algorithm, Geoff Martin - read his blog.....) is neglected.

Maybe that is/was all in vain, when even B&O users can get along with much less.

I am still be be convinced that a ‘surround solution’ in an LG-tv can come nowhere near a B&O sound solution as used in the BSys4 platform-based products.

MM

There is a tv - and there is a BV.

When even B&O users can get along with much less: I’d say those are looking for a way forward since B&O has so obviously cut down on the TV area. Fired the developers years ago now and the TV in tandem with LG seems to be the last one according to dealers around the globe. What options are there? Unsure

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BeoSound Core, BeoSound 9000, BeoSound Century, 
BeoLit 15, BeoPlay A1, BeoPlay P2, BeoPlay H9 3rd Gen, BeoPlay H6, EarSet 3i, 
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BeoCom 6000 and so much else :)  

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Peter Pan replied on Wed, Dec 12 2018 4:48 PM | Locked

Millemissen:
Save your HDMI 2.1/eARC hype for another thread

That you do not want to read what is served for you can benefit others.

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Michael replied on Wed, Dec 12 2018 4:51 PM | Locked
Millemissen:

My definitely last try...

You are talking HDMI,

The WiSA dongle, that is used for the wireless connection to the speakers, is USB - so not relevant here.

(Save your HDMI 2.1/eARC hype for another thread - maybe one about a coming HDMI-connected Sound Center/Soundbar from B&O).

MM

There is a tv - and there is a BV.

There is no need for a single in the new models. It’s built in. I guess eARC is good for use with devices such as a soundcentre with it’s speaker bar and external speakers. If that will process it all it now has more bandwidth to actually work with Atmos too. Meaning Atmos plus B&O trueimage etc.. if B&O could make a BeoCentre working like a Beosystem, meaning configurable to different screens and maybe also projector. Would LOVE a Beocenter that could be used on its own, on stand, on wall with or without tv for custom installations in any possibly way.

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Millemissen replied on Wed, Dec 12 2018 4:53 PM | Locked

Michael:
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When even B&O users can get along with much less: I’d say those are looking for a way forward since B&O has so obviously cut down on the TV area. Fired the developers years ago now and the TV in tandem with LG seems to be the last one according to dealers around the globe.

What options are there? Unsure

I am not talking ‘video’ here....but ‘audio’.

I don’t believe that the WiSA dongle hype can be the solution.

Let’s wait and see, if there will be a Sound Center/soundbar solution from B&O in the making.

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Michael replied on Wed, Dec 12 2018 5:02 PM | Locked
Millemissen:

I am not talking ‘video’ here....but ‘audio’.

I don’t believe that the WiSA dongle hype can be the solution.

Let’s wait and see, if there will be a Sound Center/soundbar solution from B&O in the making.

MM

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Who is talking about a hype? It’s just a way to simplify the connection of a non-B&O tv to Beolab’s 🤷‍♂️

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Peter Pan replied on Wed, Dec 12 2018 5:34 PM | Locked

Millemissen

12 posts on my thread, without understanding anything, that's so well done. Stick out tongue

Read the two links above.

By 2019, LG will send all nine TV versioner on the market with built-in WiSA.
TV also has built-in decoding for Dolby ATMOS and DTS X. It will be products
like their OLED TV and flagship models within LCD TV.

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Peter Pan replied on Wed, Dec 12 2018 6:38 PM | Locked

We saw this in the beginning of 2018

WiSA Wireless Audio Tx Dongle - Download PDF fil. - Here.

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From recordere.dk

Google translation.

 

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Millemissen replied on Wed, Dec 12 2018 8:09 PM | Locked

Jeff:

Big Smile

How do you say catfight in Danish?

Peter Pan is not a *** - he is a stubborn old tomcat.

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Peter Pan replied on Wed, Dec 12 2018 9:32 PM | Locked

Idea   Yes - thumbs up

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Michael:

When even B&O users can get along with much less: I’d say those are looking for a way forward since B&O has so obviously cut down on the TV area. Fired the developers years ago now and the TV in tandem with LG seems to be the last one according to dealers around the globe. What options are there?

If their future is one of no TVs, then what precisely is their USP? They’ll kind of engineer their way out of business.

I buy a Beovision, then buy Beolabs to go with it. I then buy Beoplay as it integrates well with everything else. Take away the Beovision and they’ll end up just another speaker manufacturer amongst many.

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I hard wire everything, not trying to add more wireless dysfunction into my life, let alone more radio frequencies bouncing around my house.

Last time I was at a B&O store, none of the wireless speakers they were trying to demo me really worked... we spent more time dealing with technical issues than listening to speakers.

I have lots of great B&O gear, and the 1 single one that gives me issues every single time I use it is the A9 on a wireless connection....

I also don’t understand how people call something a wireless speaker, when you have to run wires (power) to it...

Also, Atmos with only 8 channels??

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Bang & Olufsen-collection-immaculate-wireless - Click here.

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